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Reds vs Chiefs -Suncorp Stadium 13 May

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RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
Even thugby league doesn't step down to this level

Quite. A side note on this: was recently in Auckland, and, once taxi drivers there engaged with me re rugby and the RWC, virtually every single one spontaneously wanted to apologize to me re the treatment QC (Quade Cooper) received whilst playing in the RWC. They raised the issue, not me. They were quite sincere, and often used words like 'fuckin' shameful'.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
You be trippin...

On form Hodgson has no chance...

Hooper to deputies Pocock...

Gill to u20s (join squad later)....

Hodgson to watch on TV...

By your logic we wouldn't have played George Smith in his motm debut performance against France...

But that's irrelevant because Pocock will start anyways...

I don't think pocock will start vs Scotland and Wales.
 

Penguin

John Solomon (38)
Why do most Reds game threads turn into a Gill v Hooper debate? Hoopers not involved in Reds games for the most part so shouldn't this futile argument be confined to a Wallabies selection thread were I can avoid the one eyed parochialism from both sides.
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
The way the Reds came out in the second half to win the game - that is, smash the Chiefs around the rucks and flood the rucks with Gill being a real pest - was the same game plan that the Reds used last year to beat the Chiefs in the wet at Waikato (I think? Or another one of the Chief's home grounds). Difference this year was that it wasn't wet, and the Chiefs backs were much more of a threat, but their forwards got worked over in the same way in the end.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Even thugby league doesn't step down to this level
So what did you call the old QRU boo a blue campaign they ran?? Look I don't like booing, but all this bullshit over last year is exactly that. Perhaps you haven't heard NSW crowds boo their own team?? Remember watching a test on tv years back when 2 Ella boys ran on to play for Wallabies here in Qld, the booing from Aus crowd was incredible, and not knowing any different living in NZ I just assumed Aussies didn't like them because they were Aborigine. The thing is why are these things acceptable but any other booing not? As I said I don't like booing ,but when Reds crowd were booing Stormers kicker a few weeks back I must admit I thought at least they are doing somethimg!!
 

tigerland12

John Thornett (49)
I think basically it is somewhat a un-written code that oppositio supporters do not boo at away games. I think as QLDers we are getting sick of the Briwi's booing the Reds. It just seems disrespectful. Imagine if there was heaps of Brisbanites living in Wellington and decided to boo the shit out of the Hurricanes kickers? You'd be pissed off right?
 
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TOCC

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Apparently Hooper only has approx 40 minutes more gametime over 12 rounds...

Don't forget that Hooper hasn't started every game either...

And the Reds have played one extra game to the Brumbies...

But I'm not denying that Gill is just as good as Pocock and Hooper when it comes to pilfers...

It's the other aspects of the game where Hooper clearly eclipses Gill...

I think it's apparent that he is better the Hooper and potentially will be better then Pocock in pilfers
 
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tranquility

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Tranquility,he really was a treat to watch,lol and perhaps one thing advantage of being my age, I saw him (and Meads, Lohore etc when a young un).:confused: Geez I thought I was much younger than I am!!!!:mad:

I was old enough to physically watch it, but I mean old enough to comprehend how good he was. If that makes you feel better? :)
 
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tranquility

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But it's really not when they're were on the same number after the same number of matches...

Are you being serious? Hooper is very physical with and without the ball, but Gill is a far better thief.. I am sick of debate, that is my last word about it. Can't wait for the match up though.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
I think basically it is somewhat a un-written code that oppositio supporters do not boo at away games. I think as QLDers we are getting sick of the Briwi's booing the Reds. It just seems disrespectful. Imagine if there was heaps of Brisbanites living in Wellington and decided to boo the shit out of the Hurricanes kickers? You'd be pissed off right?
Naa tigerland, I think it more a few Qlders just sick of us kiwis being here, doesn't worry me mate, just the so called outrage here is rubbish, I have been to Reds game at Sydney and heard Reds supporters boo the Tahs, it's just something some people do. I have never booed at a game, but have copped abuse at Suncorp for cheering the Canes, told to piss off etc, so perhaps this unwritten rule that is about says you must always support home team?? And mate I actually am usually supporting Reds.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Are you being serious? Hooper is very physical with and without the ball, but Gill is a far better thief.. I am sick of debate, that is my last word about it. Can't wait for the match up though.

Same amount of pilfers after an equal amount of matches?

Are you being serious?
 

Roundawhile

Billy Sheehan (19)
Can we start a Hooper vs Gill thread. That way we can stick to the original theme in so many threads.

With regards to booing, it is never acceptable. I was ashamed when the QRU brought out the Boo a Blue. Thankfully the people that agreed to that are no longer with the QRU (I believe). Booing is never acceptable, in any sport!

I am so pissed of that i didn't get to see the game :(:(:(
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
I would like to imagine that Pocock grows into an 8, leaving Gill and Hooper to fight out the 7 jersey.
 
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TOCC

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Same amount of pilfers after an equal amount of matches?

Are you being serious?

Since when has it become ok start manipulating stats to support an argument... CURRENT stats indicate he has more pilfers...

Regardless I'm not basing an opinion purely on 2012 but what he did in 2011 as well.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Since when has it become ok start manipulating stats to support an argument... CURRENT stats indicate he has more pilfers...

Regardless I'm not basing an opinion purely on 2012 but what he did in 2011 as well.

The Redss have played one more game...

The 5 more pilfered he has came from that one extra game last week...

Pretty simple logic...
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Naa tigerland, I think it more a few Qlders just sick of us kiwis being here, doesn't worry me mate, just the so called outrage here is rubbish, I have been to Reds game at Sydney and heard Reds supporters boo the Tahs, it's just something some people do. I have never booed at a game, but have copped abuse at Suncorp for cheering the Canes, told to piss off etc, so perhaps this unwritten rule that is about says you must always support home team?? And mate I actually am usually supporting Reds.

My younger brother is a Brumbies supporter and the abuse he copped at Suncorp last year was disgraceful. Some dickhead decided to throw rubbish at him because he had the hide to cheer for his team. Pretty ordinary stuff and the fella was quite lucky my other brother and I did not want to make a scene with women and children around because we both wanted to deck that arsehole.
 

spectator

Bob Davidson (42)
My younger brother is a Brumbies supporter and the abuse he copped at Suncorp last year was disgraceful. Some dickhead decided to throw rubbish at him because he had the hide to cheer for his team. Pretty ordinary stuff and the fella was quite lucky my other brother and I did not want to make a scene with women and children around because we both wanted to deck that arsehole.
Unfortunately every team has their quota of idiots who spoil the viewing experience for the majority. Can't stand the booing but unfortunately it seems to be normal behaviour these days.
 
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