Reds vs Brumbies - Rd9 2014

[something]

To'omua played well. Alexander and Slipper were good Moore was good Fardy, Horwill good Simmions good but brain farted again

being a reds supporter i'm pretty much getting to that point where my s15 season is over/too frustrating. too many close losses. looking forward to the wobs. 2011 & 12 i was far more interested in super than internationals. I guess you just follow the team who is winning.... does that make me a bad supporter?

 

[MarkJ]

Reds got much better value from their bench; nearly won them the game. As much as a few have denied it, that Brumbies bench is just not good enough right now come the pointy end of the comp. Not too sure what they can do though to fix it in that time.

Fotu, Carter, Speight etc coming back in the next few weeks should help (assuming no new injuries)

 

[Paradox]

As much as a few have denied it, that Brumbies bench is just not good enough right now come the pointy end of the comp. Not too sure what they can do though to fix it in that time..

Are you aware of how many brumby forwards are injured? Our 2 regular locks carter and power, auelua, vaee, and pocock.

Hopefully we get the first 3 back which will seriously strengthen the bench. Once speight is back we get Coleman back on the bench. Rathbone is also due back. Having Coleman and Lilo on the bench ain't bad either.

If those forwards don't get back soon I'd agree with you though. Last year we had the likes of Fainga'a, kimlin and palmer around and losing those guys has hurt.

 

[Merrow]

For a guy that was such a good player, Horan says some fucking stupid things. Gregan's not much better.

 

[Pedrolicus]

i didn't see the game only just got home from work.. if we are talking 'wallaby watch' who put their hands up in this game? looks like Tomane did himself some favours, QC (Quade Cooper) had a good night with the boot? how was genia/white battle? forwards?

The first half was all brumbies with a good late try from the reds. The second half was almost the exact opposite. This makes it hard to compare the teams and say who was better. Tomane was prob the only standout with a try and a try saver but both teams largely canceled each other out.

 

[Ash]

Tomane did well, but dropped a lot of ball / threw poor passes at the same time.

White was better than Genia I thought, quite easily. Took much better options, found his runners better, and looked more threatening.

Moore was very good for the Brumbies, but a little lucky to stay on the park.'

Fardy was a real pest at the breakdown. Would much prefer to see him back at 6.

The offloading and support play from the Brumbies forwards in the first half was first class. In the first hands the backs showed slick hands to expoit the Reds out wide.

Reds' second row was industrious, but they need a little more impact around the park.

Cooper was mainly good, but will rue his couple of mistakes, particularly for Fardy's try.

To'omua was also mainly good, particularly showing some good hands and some strong runs.

Taps looked threatening on attack. He would be my pick of the centres.

Kuridrani wasn't sighted much and dropped some ball. McCabe was merely solid after his last few weeks, missing all the extra dimensions he previously showed.

Brumbies scrum was superior for the first 50 minutes with Sio, Moore and Alexander, until Sio was subbed for JP Smith and Holmes subbed for Owen. Once Alexander went off for Ruan Smith it got worse, giving up tightheads.

 

[Epi]

I thought Tomane had a blinder.. Which is just as well because I don't think he's going to have a job in media to fall back on.

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[Set piece magic]

So can people who had the tv feed tell us what the justification for not awarding genias try was

 

[qwerty51]

So can people who had the tv feed tell us what the justification for not awarding genias try was

Quirk's infraction.

 

[Ash]

Fotu, Carter, Speight etc coming back in the next few weeks should help (assuming no new injuries)

Don't think that Fotu will help, much the other two will, particularly as Carter should allow Fardy to switch back to blindside.

Fotu for me will take too long to find form to be much impact this year. Big guys normally take a while to come back after being out for that long.

edit: I should add, the reserve front row will be a huge issue. I just wouldn't sub Alexander unless the Brumbies have basically won the game easily, and would only sub Sio for Murphy, as Murphy seems a much, much stronger scrummager than JP Smith. If you noticed the last few weeks, it was Murphy coming on that was often the catalyst for the complete scrum dominance from the Brumbies.

 

[Ash]

So can people who had the tv feed tell us what the justification for not awarding genias try was

Not sure that you can say what the impact of that was, as the Reds never left the Brumbies half and ultimately scored a few minutes later anyway in a better position, if I remember correctly.

The stupid part was the Reds in the last 10, kicking away everything until it was too late.

 

[biggsy]

WE ARE FUCKED , WE ARE FUCKED

 

[cyclopath]

So can people who had the tv feed tell us what the justification for not awarding genias try was

Infringement was Quirk held Moore (maybe prevented defence of try, maybe), Moore hit Quirk in return, couldn't award try because might have been aided by Quirk, went back to ongoing advantage to Reds for Mowen collapsing maul on other side of field. The sequence was logical, but the finer points will be debated (mainly as to whether Quirk impeded anything).

 

[qwerty51]

Should the fact whether Quirk impeded anything even matter? Quirk committed a breakdown offence that should be penalised, since it happened before the try play cannot continue once identified.

If you think back to last week when the Waratahs were 5m out from the Stormers line, the was ball was available to Phipps and then Skelton comes in with a from the side cleanout that didn't affect anything but had to penalised.

 

[Ash]

Did anyone work out the Brumbies' backline structure once Lilo came on for Coleman?

Seemed a weird swap to make if Coleman wasn't injured.

 

[cyclopath]

Should the fact whether Quirk impeded anything even matter? Quirk committed a breakdown offence that should be penalised, since it happened before the try play cannot continue once identified.

If you think back to last week when the Waratahs were 5m out from the Stormers line, the was ball was available to Phipps and then Skelton comes in with a from the side cleanout that didn't affect anything but had to penalised.

I was just pointing out what would be debated. Not commenting upon whether it should be.
I thought at the time Walsh and the AR / TMO handled it pretty well.

 

[Tangawizi]

Quade still out signing autographs and posing for photos. Good effort. Game was over about 50 minutes ago now.

 

[Scoey]

Should the fact whether Quirk impeded anything even matter? Quirk committed a breakdown offence that should be penalised, since it happened before the try play cannot continue once identified.

You want to debate the legality of what Quirk did but claim that Moore was within his rights to throw a punch? Are we applying the rules to both sides or just the Reds?


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[Set piece magic]

Was Quirk originally pinged for the breakdown offence when they went upstairs? To my knowledge the tmo can't rule there has been a breakdown offence. grabbing a player's arm is a ruck infringement so unless Steve Walsh expressly said he had seen it before the TMO ruling then that's void.

Secondly, it doesn't matter whether Quirk gets in the way when he rolls away for two reasons:

i) attempted tackler didn't even get close so wasn't impeded
ii) even if you argue he is impeded, Quirk moves there for his safety as a result of FOUL play. With this in mind a try 'probably' would have been scored even if he isn't there and he only is because of foul play therefore penalty try + yellow card.

There needed to be a YC in that sequence there was 3+ infringements 5m out

 

[Scoey]

Did anyone work out the Brumbies' backline structure once Lilo came on for Coleman?

Seemed a weird swap to make if Coleman wasn't injured.

Pretty sure Lilo went to 12 and McCabe to the wing.


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