First of all, I didn't support the signing of these big names so not really interested in squeezing them in. If they don't fit, they don't fit. 13 isn't a weak position for the Reds. You mention Conrad Smith and funny enough we have a player already that fills that Mr Reliable kind of no thrills role with Ant Fainga'a, we won the title with him at 13 and he has one of the best defensive reads in the country. He is the one who controls the on field structure in defense for the Reds as Smith does in the sides he plays in. I don't care if he plays 12 or 13 but Fainga'a has proven crucial to the Reds in that role.