Reds v Force 7pm Sat 29th March, Rd 7

[Equalizer]

Is it hard to walk straight with that massive chip on your shoulder???

It's a true narrative. How long did it take the Storm in League to win a premiership? East.Coast.rugby die-hards just.cant let the.reigns go. Its holding.the game back.

 

[Adam84]

Didn't used to be. I accept that. Used to get way to pumped up and still do at times. Usually I would be on here whinging like a baby about the last play and why was a knock on called when they didn't knock it on. The force had plenty of chances to win that game. They didn't take advantage.

You and me alike… I was just able to blend into the house of the other reds fans screaming.. it’s good to have a passion

 

[Derpus]

It's a true narrative. How long did it take the Storm in League to win a premiership? East.Coast.rugby die-hards just.cant let the.reigns go. Its holding.the game back.

 

[Equalizer]

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Glad you posted the ARU annual report.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

A lot went to the lions mate.

I can only be petty 2 days a week.

 

[Yoda]

Another one for the rule junkies. Does it matter where the ref says it should have been thrown from or where it actually was thrown from?

Exactly. When Donaldson gets the ball he’s putting it into touch because he sees the line out was inside his 22? If the ref and the touchie don’t move the line out to where it allegedly was supposed to be, it is inside the 22 and a kick from anyone can go out on the full. Either way it was shit refereeing that was a big turning point.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Incumbency chat is kind of moot if you’re using the last Test played. What if we played Canada? If we start tracing things and take injuries into the mix Skelton was the Captain until hurt then Porecki until hurt…

It’s generally based on percentage of selection IMO which is Faessler. Pollard is the 2nd Hooker right now.

 

[Adam84]

Exactly. When Donaldson gets the ball he’s putting it into touch because he sees the line out was inside his 22? If the ref and the touchie don’t move the line out to where it allegedly was supposed to be, it is inside the 22 and a kick from anyone can go out on the full. Either way it was shit refereeing that was a big turning point.

I had 3 or 4 line outs take place directly in front of where i was sitting, each time it never took place on the mark and the hooker was stepping across.. the issue was BOK wasn’t stopping the forwards from closing the gap, so teams would step across to either open it up or close it again, and also the hooker wants to throw from directly in front of his team and not down the gap so he was stepping across. They were a mess officiating it and players took advantage of it, hence why lineouts were getting thrown in 3-4m from where the AR first marked it.

 

[TSR]

Is there anyone playing better in Australian rugby at the moment than Seru Uru & Filipo Daugunu?

The fact that the Reds have been able to compete despite the injuries/rotation is a big tick for squad depth and the fringe players putting their hands up but those two have been outstanding week in week out.

Edit: maybe Carlo Tizzano. He’s been pretty exceptional too.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Most impactful players on the field by far.

Daugunu, Uru, Tizz and I’d add Gleeson in there over the last 3 games. Hooper has gone quite the last couple of weeks.

 

[Yoda]

I had 3 or 4 line outs take place directly in front of where i was sitting, each time it never took place on the mark and the hooker was stepping across.. the issue was BOK wasn’t stopping the forwards from closing the gap, so teams would step across to either open it up or close it again, and also the hooker wants to throw from directly in front of his team and not down the gap so he was stepping across. They were a mess officiating it and players took advantage of it, hence why lineouts were getting thrown in 3-4m from where the AR first marked it.

So they pull one up that they allowed to creep, that is in the final 10. Crap officiating.

 

[TSR]

No - they didn’t pull it up. They simply, and correctly, ruled that the starting point was outside the 22.

I get that officiating can be tough and people like to bag them but the players were wrong here. And sometimes, often, the officials let stuff go to let the game flow. People are bitching about nothing. The officials were right, the players took a liberty and it bit them in the arse.

Edit: rather than Crap officiating I think the officials should be applauded. They let something go that was largely not material (although the Reds might argue it contributed to their woes) until it was material and then they made the 100% correct call.

 

[Yoda]

No - they didn’t pull it up. They simply, and correctly, ruled that the starting point was outside the 22.

I get that officiating can be tough and people like to bag them but the players were wrong here. And sometimes, often, the officials let stuff go to let the game flow. People are bitching about nothing. The officials were right, the players took a liberty and it bit them in the arse.

TSR. Watch it again. Around 69 minutes. The ball is kicked out by Fines just outside the 22 I agree. Yet by the time the throw is being thrown the Assistant referee is basically telling the hooker from the Force where to throw which is now inside the 22. NOT on the mark outside the 22 which he adjudicates initially. Watch it. If the officials are letting that happen, it’s a bit rich then to pull it up after the event. I mean the Assistant referee doesn’t have to do much, but I would have thought enforcing the exact spot where the ball goes out is pretty basic. If you fu.k that up it is PLAY on. Pulling that up then allows Reds to score a try just after. Massive turning point.

 

[Yoda]

No - they didn’t pull it up. They simply, and correctly, ruled that the starting point was outside the 22.

I get that officiating can be tough and people like to bag them but the players were wrong here. And sometimes, often, the officials let stuff go to let the game flow. People are bitching about nothing. The officials were right, the players took a liberty and it bit them in the arse.

Edit: rather than Crap officiating I think the officials should be applauded. They let something go that was largely not material (although the Reds might argue it contributed to their woes) until it was material and then they made the 100% correct call.

One more TSR…..”. And sometimes, often, the officials let stuff go to let the game flow.“…..Which I think is a good thing by the way… but you can’t take that attitude and then pull some thing up in the final 10, which is a big time in the game when you have allowed it to happen the whole game. Supporters just want consistency …

 

[TSR]

TSR. Watch it again. Around 69 minutes. The ball is kicked out by Fines just outside the 22 I agree. Yet by the time the throw is being thrown the Assistant referee is basically telling the hooker from the Force where to throw which is now inside the 22. NOT on the mark outside the 22 which he adjudicates initially. Watch it. If the officials are letting that happen, it’s a bit rich then to pull it up after the event. I mean the Assistant referee doesn’t have to do much, but I would have thought enforcing the exact spot where the ball goes out is pretty basic. If you fu.k that up it is PLAY on. Pulling that up then allows Reds to score a try just after. Massive turning point.

I’ve watched it. I specifically replayed it last night to see exactly what happened. The AR makes the mark. Points Horton to the mark. Horton ignores him.

Now - if the kick stays in, or if the Force take a hit up inside the 22 it is okay on and none of us would have the slightest issue with that. But the Force put it out on the full and that’s where THEY - not the officials - fucked up.

Anyway - I’m done. If you want to mount another ongoing diatribe over officiating I’ll leave you with it.

I read something the other day about how badly rugby fans rip into their own game and how bad it is for the game. We just had a great slug feast, with excellent ball handling in the rain by two Aussie teams who have both had their issues over the years. One of them is now top of the table. And you’re bitching about a refs decision that they got right.

 

[Strewthcobber]

I had 3 or 4 line outs take place directly in front of where i was sitting, each time it never took place on the mark and the hooker was stepping across.. the issue was BOK wasn’t stopping the forwards from closing the gap, so teams would step across to either open it up or close it again, and also the hooker wants to throw from directly in front of his team and not down the gap so he was stepping across. They were a mess officiating it and players took advantage of it, hence why lineouts were getting thrown in 3-4m from where the AR first marked it.

If the hooker wants to step across and reduce competition for the ball, I'm actually fine with the ref letting defenders follow him, as long as they stay 0.5m from the hooker's mark, which I think they probably do/were (this happens all the time at all levels). Mind you I'm an ex-2nd row.

But this is how refs manage a game, they let this sort of stuff go all the time. Otherwise we would have nothing but stoppages

It's the throwing hooker that is causing this issue with the first offense. Throw it down the middle!

 

[Yoda]

I’ve watched it. I specifically replayed it last night to see exactly what happened. The AR makes the mark. Points Horton to the mark. Horton ignores him.

Now - if the kick stays in, or if the Force take a hit up inside the 22 it is okay on and none of us would have the slightest issue with that. But the Force put it out on the full and that’s where THEY - not the officials - fucked up.

Anyway - I’m done. If you want to mount another ongoing diatribe over officiating I’ll leave you with it.

I read something the other day about how badly rugby fans rip into their own game and how bad it is for the game. We just had a great slug feast, with excellent ball handling in the rain by two Aussie teams who have both had their issues over the years. One of them is now top of the table. And you’re bitching about a refs decision that they got right.

Just admit you’re wrong or STFU. I don’t really care which.

Convenient that your team won. It’s poor officiating if they allow players to not throw the ball in where the ball went out . Simple. A bit rich to tell someone to STFU from the comfort of your lounge room. One of the greats.

 

[Strewthcobber]

There's no law specifically covering this, because the hooker is meant to throw from the mark, but there is a similar law for QTI which sets the precedent, and all players on the field would be aware of (especially a former 15)

Law 18.7

If the mark of touch is outside the 22, the defending team may take the quick throw inside the 22 but is deemed to have taken the ball into the 22.

 

[TSR]

Convenient that your team won. It’s poor officiating if they allow players to not throw the ball in where the ball went out . Simple. A bit rich to tell someone to STFU from the comfort of your lounge room. One of the greats.

My last comment was completely over the top. I went back and deleted but should not have posted it. I apologise.

 

[Yoda]

My last comment was completely over the top. I went back and deleted but should not have posted it. I apologise.

Well played! Apology accepted. It was a match between two good teams bringing out their passionate supporters! Australian rugby is definitely improving, which is great.