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Mark Ella (57)
Absolutely correct. But often a new club reinvigorates a player.
Reds 2020
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Bobby Sands
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He is still pretty young. Could easily play the next World Cup after this one as well.
Plenty of time for James to create his Reds identity.
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Dick Tooth (41)
Yup - When Beiber called Phil Waugh a 'slow old dog' at Wallabies training Deans should have let The Orc beat him into a bloody smear on Coogee oval, then dropped him for the rest of that year.
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John Thornett (49)
But Phil Waugh was a slow old dog.
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Mark Loane (55)
A lot of rugby personalities and posters on here surprised that Thorn is letting JOC (James O'Connor) back into the fold after his previous hard stance on players with indiscretions, but really he isn't giving JOC (James O'Connor) a 'second chance', as far as we're aware they've never been associated in a professional manner.
JOC (James O'Connor) last played for the Reds back in 2015, Thorn never really got involved with the QRU in any capacity until the end of 2016 and not in a coaching a proper role (NRC) until 2017. I think that puts JOC (James O'Connor) into a very different basket than the other blokes who were actually contracted to the Reds when Thorn began his association with the QRU. In terms of getting a guy like JOC (James O'Connor) over the line, even if Thorn has reservations, it would be a lot easier for his supporters within the QRU due to those circumstances.
JOC (James O'Connor) last played for the Reds back in 2015, Thorn never really got involved with the QRU in any capacity until the end of 2016 and not in a coaching a proper role (NRC) until 2017. I think that puts JOC (James O'Connor) into a very different basket than the other blokes who were actually contracted to the Reds when Thorn began his association with the QRU. In terms of getting a guy like JOC (James O'Connor) over the line, even if Thorn has reservations, it would be a lot easier for his supporters within the QRU due to those circumstances.
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Bobby Sands
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You go to the same pie shop?
LearningCurve
Bill Watson (15)
So Thorn should just ignore what went on before, ignoring his (apparent) principles? He has learnt the Wayne Bennett lessons well (as long as a player can deliver on the field you can cope with their off field bahaviour).
have nothing against JOC (James O'Connor), and noted that a couple of years ago when he was here with Toulon for the Brisbane 10's that he was very giving of his time with the public, even after his teammates had departed, but if you are going to hold yourself out there as being strong on principles then you can't suddenly overlook past behaviours. The Toulon cocaine indicent was onlly a couple of years ago. If most people were faced with a job offer that they wanted then they would claim to meet all the personal responsibility criteria too. Doesn't mean that it is true. Is he willing to abide by the Thorn hairstyle rules that Tate had to meet?
Beer Baron
Phil Hardcastle (33)
fixed
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
Depending on the stories you skim through and reading between the lines, Bennett's holy than thou of the field persona hasn't really lived up to his 'reputation' in the last several years.
Always has been the way
The general rule is be good enough and winning - you can get a away with anything in most endeavours
Andrew Johns was known to skip training if the surf was running, still played and got man of the match on the weekend
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Greg Davis (50)
Questionable work ethic at training was the least of Gazza's demons.
Anyway, best of luck to QLD with the JOC (James O'Connor) return.
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
AKA the "don't piss off the sponsors" clause
Finsbury Girl
Trevor Allan (34)
Well it seems good sense prevailing and the QRU have put in additional protections for JOC (James O'Connor) contract.
Let's hope it is also performance driven as well. I can certainly see a scenario that he doesn't play a minute for Australia this year and gets the sulks & that that attitude into next season. That would not sit well within the QLD camp.
I hope I'm wrong.
Let's hope it is also performance driven as well. I can certainly see a scenario that he doesn't play a minute for Australia this year and gets the sulks & that that attitude into next season. That would not sit well within the QLD camp.
I hope I'm wrong.