Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
2019 draw has been released
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Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
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Peter Sullivan (51)
2019 draw has been released
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That is quite a hard home schedule.
Jimmy_Crouch
Peter Johnson (47)
Just saw the forgotten man of Queensland rugby (no not Quade or Frisby) but Vanzanti has been named in the Forces 10s to for the Mauritius tournament.
Getwithme
Cyril Towers (30)
He's been playing World Series Rugby this year after I think just 1 game with the dogs
neilc
Bob Loudon (25)
Just checked out the Reds squad listing on their site - appears to be unchanged from the start of the year despite players being discarded - maybe this is just who is still contracted? Hunt, Frisby and Cooper are still there, as are Teti Tela and Lachlan Maranta who I don't believe have had a game in Super Rugby this season. Jayden Ngamanu, who has played for the Reds in Super Rugby this year, isn't listed. What changes to the squad do you think will happen for next season (subject to contracts of course)? Obviously Nabuli is going overseas, as are Lance and Douglas, and I'm not sure if George Smith is planning to play next year or be part of coaching. Who is not contracted past 2018 season?
JAMES Slipper is set to be the fourth highly-paid Queensland player collecting cheques for doing not much.
The Wallabies prop, suspended for two months for a second positive cocaine test, had signed a two-year extension with the Reds prior to his bust.
Slipper’s deal takes him through to the end of 2020, but word is Reds coach Brad Thorn will not pick him to play another game.
Thorn has taken the same stance against Karmichael Hunt, while Quade Cooper and Nick Frisby are also earning big money but not being selected to play by the coach for cultural reasons.
We’re told other Australian franchises are keen to sign Slipper, but the 29-year-old is caring for his mother who has terminal cancer.
It’s unlikely Slipper would want to leave her at this difficult time — he blames much of his spiral into drugs on her diagnosis — to play for another team in a different state.
That means he could remain in Brisbane and earn his guaranteed contract money in 2019 and 2020 while Thorn refuses to select him.
With Slipper, Cooper, Hunt and Frisby all in that boat, it’s close to $1 million of the Reds’ salary cap sitting idle.
neilc
Bob Loudon (25)
I hope that even though Slipper is banned from playing at the moment that he is not banned from helping the game. He could get out to the clubs and help with junior training (hell, I imagine a lot of the senior teams would welcome his technical input). Someone like that could provide a huge amount of knowledge and inspiration to younger players - it might even benefit him by getting him involved in something really positive as he is clearly having to deal with some negative things in life at the moment.
dru
David Wilson (68)
You have to wonder how far the "line in the sand" is drawn. Hunt is not playing club nor allowed to attend a club.
Reds are responsible for the current scenario with Quade and Frisby but they only are culpable over Hunt and Slipper in how they manage an issue they did not ask for. It shows how ultimatums or firm dictates can have consequences for an organisation even when they seem completely sensible up front.
OTOH In one of Cheika's pressers there was a mention of how impressed he was with the Red squad members simply getting on with their training/preparation routines without direction and digging in. Setting a good example for the rest of the Wallabies.
Their are strengths here.
And as sunnyboys says painful consequences. No rugby club can afford to operate down $1m in players.
dru
David Wilson (68)
Maybe I have it wrong then. Thought I had read here that he was not to be at the Reds and that his Club had not released him to play either. Left him training at Quades gym.
Happy to be corrected.
EDIT: maybe it's in my wording? I thought that the gist was he wasn't wlecome.
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
You're probably right. But I can't judge the guy in dealing with facing his mothers mortality. For some, being out in the public doing things to take your mind off it works, for others they want to be with that person constantly.
I personally have no problem with Slipper still being paid his salary and not doing much. I'd hope I got similar support from my work if I had to do something similar for my own mother or wife.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Such a shit situation all round. I hope we see him playing super rugby again.
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Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
Reds use the same contract as everyone else.
They need better controls around who they are signing to their contracts
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dru
David Wilson (68)
At the time a few were complaining on signing Hunt, nothing to do with drugs but an ambivalence toward mungo. I cant think of any theme around not signing Quade do to "culture" and no issues around signing Slipper and Frisby.
I don't think we can hold QRU to beat on the contracts. Perhaps the strategy in contracting (how much do you invest in $tars and how much across the group).
It's not the contracts here I don't think. Unless you are talking about contracting Thorn to HC without concern on the result for Quade and Frisby?
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