Foley had a 25% win ratio after his first two seasons in charge of the Tahs and Force respectively, Graham has had a 30% win ratio after his first two seasons in charge of the Force and Reds.
Foley took the Tahs from a finalist team in 2011 to 4 wins the following year, Graham took the Reds from a finalists team in 2013 to just 5 wins in the following year.
Ewen McKenzies first year in charge of the Tahs had them win only 5 games, he was sacked mid-season from Stade Francais in 2010, Michael Cheika as well coached Stade Francais and had them sitting 11th on the ladder in 2011 and was let go the following year.
Coaches like players take time to develop, the measure of a coaches success is the ability to evolve and learn off past mistakes, 2015 is the litmus test for Richard Graham he needs to show massive improvement or kiss his coaching career in Australia goodbye.
All of those you have mentioned may not have gained success immediately, however in all of their cases it has been quite apparent what style of play (or structure might be a better word) they have been trying to get their teams to play.
I am not sure I can discern what the hell the reds were trying to do this year. There has been no structure and no clear development in any direction. The difference between the Force under Graham and the Reds under Graham is that the Reds had a few players that were individually better which meant a couple more games were closer during the season than perhaps the Force had.
It has also been apparent (even through the televeision screen) in all their cases that they are incredibly strong willed individuals.
RG is clearly not. He is not a leader. He is a follower and no one can change that.
I am sorry, but I am still not seeing the optimism that you guys are.
Think hard about how many times this season you guys saw the Reds in the opposition 22 and you just KNEW that the Reds were unable to convert the territory into a try unless someone on the other team was sent off. Other teams get over 10 phases in possesion and you know they will convert the pressure into points. The Reds do the same this year, and you know that they are just one or two phases closer to knocking the ball on.
Try to picture the tries we scored from medium to long range this year - there arent many. I have never seen a team struggle to score tries in either code of rugby as hard as the Reds have.
Negative, Negative negative, negative.
Doom, gloom, gloom, doom.