Reds 2011
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there are some snippets already out, the Reds will be playing the Western Force in Rd1 at Suncorp Stadium
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Geoff Shaw (53)
It's less significant this year then past years because we know all the Aussie teams will play each other in the first 5 weeks.
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no that's actually a misconception, teams will be playing against teams from other countries from Rd1...
It needs to be that way otherwise there will be 3 teams having a bye each weekend, which will only prolong the season unecessarily
It needs to be that way otherwise there will be 3 teams having a bye each weekend, which will only prolong the season unecessarily
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Geoff Shaw (53)
That makes sense.
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Not much has been said about the Ballymore redevelopment recently, undoubtedly due to the financial state of the QRU.
I did a article up on the blog earlier in the year about the redevelopment, and one idea i touted was that the QRU moves from Ballymore, either by selling it the land to developers or back to the council/state government, utilising the money made from the sale of the land, they establish a new home with new facilities.
One idea floated was they negotiate a lease with BNE airport and build a training facility out there, even liase with the state govt and construct a boutique stadium.
The problem is currently that the QRU and the Reds have two vastly different requirements from Ballymore, the QRU needs Ballymore to be a community facility, to host rugby tournaments and finals, the Reds need Ballymore to be a professional training facility.
Which brings me to a point, why is it that Ballymore doesn't have a club rugby union side based there, there are two premier grade clubs within 5km of Ballymore yet neither team uses Ballymore. There isn't even a juniors side based out of Ballymore, why is it that arguably one of the better rugby facilities in Brisbane isn't used on weekends?
In a Reds sense, you have a look at any of the major clubs in various sporting codes around the world, they have dedicated training facilities, largely because they aren't affiliated as a governing body, but also because the professional side of the house and the amateur side of the house are driving towards different goals. It would make more sense to base the Reds out of a facility like Chandler(obviously with a rugby field constructed) due to the access to facilities like the aquatic centre, indoor gym, weightlifting facility etc etc.
As it would make more sense to have the QRU based at a facility without a depreciating asset like the Ballymore Stadium sucking up a large part of there funds in maintenance and repair. Realistically all the QRU needs is muliple rugby fields and one of them with a 7'500 seat grandstand with a canteen.
As much as i would love to see the QRU remain at Ballymore, financially i dont think its feasible, unless they receive another mighty grant from the Federal or State Govt they wont have the money to be able to fund a development.
I did a article up on the blog earlier in the year about the redevelopment, and one idea i touted was that the QRU moves from Ballymore, either by selling it the land to developers or back to the council/state government, utilising the money made from the sale of the land, they establish a new home with new facilities.
One idea floated was they negotiate a lease with BNE airport and build a training facility out there, even liase with the state govt and construct a boutique stadium.
The problem is currently that the QRU and the Reds have two vastly different requirements from Ballymore, the QRU needs Ballymore to be a community facility, to host rugby tournaments and finals, the Reds need Ballymore to be a professional training facility.
Which brings me to a point, why is it that Ballymore doesn't have a club rugby union side based there, there are two premier grade clubs within 5km of Ballymore yet neither team uses Ballymore. There isn't even a juniors side based out of Ballymore, why is it that arguably one of the better rugby facilities in Brisbane isn't used on weekends?
In a Reds sense, you have a look at any of the major clubs in various sporting codes around the world, they have dedicated training facilities, largely because they aren't affiliated as a governing body, but also because the professional side of the house and the amateur side of the house are driving towards different goals. It would make more sense to base the Reds out of a facility like Chandler(obviously with a rugby field constructed) due to the access to facilities like the aquatic centre, indoor gym, weightlifting facility etc etc.
As it would make more sense to have the QRU based at a facility without a depreciating asset like the Ballymore Stadium sucking up a large part of there funds in maintenance and repair. Realistically all the QRU needs is muliple rugby fields and one of them with a 7'500 seat grandstand with a canteen.
As much as i would love to see the QRU remain at Ballymore, financially i dont think its feasible, unless they receive another mighty grant from the Federal or State Govt they wont have the money to be able to fund a development.
I think it would be great if a team played out of Ballymore. Brothers wouldn't move there as they own their grounds (my understanding but could be wrong) and Norths is the other option but I think they should move further from the city not closer. I enjoyed it when we had to play there on a Friday night so that the ABC could record the game and play it on TV on Saturday. I think a match of the round at Ballymore on a Sunday arvo would be great (especially on a long weekend, maybe a double header).
As for the Reds moving somewhere else, I can see the logic behind it. The Broncos have done quite a bit of training out at Uni in the past and I could see the Reds doing the same thing. All of the facilities are there, they would just need some office and storage space.
As for the Reds moving somewhere else, I can see the logic behind it. The Broncos have done quite a bit of training out at Uni in the past and I could see the Reds doing the same thing. All of the facilities are there, they would just need some office and storage space.
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John Solomon (38)
I think you must have... the big cash bail out by ARU?
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...lian-rugby-union/story-e6freon6-1225837040606
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no, they haven't gone into receivership, that is incorrect, technically they havent even gone into administration, however due to the lack of a better term 'administration' is probably the best word to describe the current set-up.
Administration is when a organisation is on the verge of becoming insolvent, the board elects to have a administrator take control, which then means the powers of the directors within that company cease and the administrator takes control of everything.
The QRU went to the ARU requesting a cash bailout, the ARU granted it on the condition that the QRU board vote to have a SEC(special executive committe) comprised of ARU and QRU members and headed by JON to take control of the QRU, this is what has happened.
Administration is when a organisation is on the verge of becoming insolvent, the board elects to have a administrator take control, which then means the powers of the directors within that company cease and the administrator takes control of everything.
The QRU went to the ARU requesting a cash bailout, the ARU granted it on the condition that the QRU board vote to have a SEC(special executive committe) comprised of ARU and QRU members and headed by JON to take control of the QRU, this is what has happened.
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Arch Winning (36)
Teachers Norths used to play out of Ballymore, didn't they? They were probably the last...
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I think if Quade goes to League, I think the Reds should look at Felipe Contemponi, I know he's with Toulon, but is it possible to have him for two season as a marquee player, leading up to the 4 Nations, he'll be 34 then, but I think he deserves 1 year with Argentina. Not to mention he still would attract crowds, no Quade Cooper crowds though.
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the issue is that most of the top 5/8's are already signed for 2011, Quade was a different story because they were waiting on the outcome of the court case
exactly TOCC. So the options are probably (1) Jono Lance (2) Peter Hynes (with Toua maybe snagging a late contract) (3) Anthony Fainga'a/Benny Tapuai (4) one of the youngies - Robbie Coleman, Ben Seymour etc (5) Dallan Murphy or Matt Brandon from club footy.
Of course then there's the marquee option but will there be anyone available? Maybe someone like Matthew Tait will get disgruntled with a lack of English game time and come down and play for the Reds for a year. Or a frog. Damien Traille? Is he still playing regular test footy?
Of course then there's the marquee option but will there be anyone available? Maybe someone like Matthew Tait will get disgruntled with a lack of English game time and come down and play for the Reds for a year. Or a frog. Damien Traille? Is he still playing regular test footy?
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Ben Lucas would be a more then competent 5/8 fill-in, im not so concerned that we will need to per-sue that path... Cooper will remain, the ARU are smart enough to realise that his marketing appeal and crowd pull will more then justify a higher wage.
Interesting in the article of Matt Rogers retiring he revealed that Ewen McKenzie had made a last minute appeal with him to think about coming to the Reds in 2011..
Matt reckons he seriously toyed with the thought, but he was unsure whether his body would hold up and additionally he doesn't want to just sit on the bench.
Interesting in the article of Matt Rogers retiring he revealed that Ewen McKenzie had made a last minute appeal with him to think about coming to the Reds in 2011..
Matt reckons he seriously toyed with the thought, but he was unsure whether his body would hold up and additionally he doesn't want to just sit on the bench.
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