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Geoff Shaw (53)
Win win - the Rebels get the best flyhalf in Oz, and a new supporter - me
You forgot the bit where the Rebels get the best fly half in Australia and the Reds/ARU are still paying the wages.
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You forgot the bit where the Rebels get the best fly half in Australia and the Reds/ARU are still paying the wages.
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Jim Clark (26)
I'm sensing that he isn't exactly happy with the decision Thorne made to bench him for the season.
Like him or hate him, Cooper is clearly in the top 2 fly halves in Australia - paying him lots of money to not play SuperRugby in some team is insane.
Some of the wages.
Mick The Munch
Vay Wilson (31)
That's some back line we'll have!!! Cooper has conducted himself amazingly, all things considered, a sign he's matured?
Let's hope so.
The missing piece for the Rebels?
Let's hope so.
The missing piece for the Rebels?
Big call coming up.......
The Rebels in 2019 will assemble the most talented backline since the Brumbies backline of the early 2000s.
Genia, Cooper, Koroibete, To'omua, Hodge, Naivalu, DHP. Maddocks, Meakes, Ruru and English on the bench.
Test capped and talented from top to tail.
Have to be strong favourites for the Aussie conference.
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The Rebels in 2019 will assemble the most talented backline since the Brumbies backline of the early 2000s.
Genia, Cooper, Koroibete, To'omua, Hodge, Naivalu, DHP. Maddocks, Meakes, Ruru and English on the bench.
Test capped and talented from top to tail.
Have to be strong favourites for the Aussie conference.
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Mick The Munch
Vay Wilson (31)
It'll be a challenge for Wessels to keep everyone happy!
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Amazingly, it's even better than the one you listed. Still averse to Hodge at 13 for defensive reasons, but sure works if you want to cram talent in.
Dctarget
Tim Horan (67)
The forward pack will let the Rebels down.
1. Sa'aga 2. Uelese 3. Weeks 4. Jones 5. Coleman 6. Cottrell 7. Hardwick 8. Naisarani
I love the second row and hooker. But I think the props and backrow have the same issue. Great depth of decent players. But decent players don't win championships, none of these players particularly blow me away.
Sa'aga, Weeks, Ainsley, Faulkner, Daley, Talaki are all pretty uninspiring IMO. (though I know Daley did win in '11, he seems to have not really made any progress since).
Same issue with the backrow, a bunch of reliable battlers. They're good players, but RHP, Cottrell, Hardwick do not compare against Pocock, McMahon, Dempsey, Hooper, Tui, Gill, Timu, Samu etc.
Also on a side note: Some reds fans are talking about how they'll switch support to the Rebels now that the messiah has floated south to join the rest of the ex-reds. I've lived in Melbourne and been a Rebels member since their inception, but no matter how hard I try, I cannot shake my support for the reds. It's bizarre. Reds have a completely different roster with different coaches, everything is different from when I signed on except the name yet I still support them... Sports psychology is whack.
1. Sa'aga 2. Uelese 3. Weeks 4. Jones 5. Coleman 6. Cottrell 7. Hardwick 8. Naisarani
I love the second row and hooker. But I think the props and backrow have the same issue. Great depth of decent players. But decent players don't win championships, none of these players particularly blow me away.
Sa'aga, Weeks, Ainsley, Faulkner, Daley, Talaki are all pretty uninspiring IMO. (though I know Daley did win in '11, he seems to have not really made any progress since).
Same issue with the backrow, a bunch of reliable battlers. They're good players, but RHP, Cottrell, Hardwick do not compare against Pocock, McMahon, Dempsey, Hooper, Tui, Gill, Timu, Samu etc.
Also on a side note: Some reds fans are talking about how they'll switch support to the Rebels now that the messiah has floated south to join the rest of the ex-reds. I've lived in Melbourne and been a Rebels member since their inception, but no matter how hard I try, I cannot shake my support for the reds. It's bizarre. Reds have a completely different roster with different coaches, everything is different from when I signed on except the name yet I still support them... Sports psychology is whack.
Jerry West
Sydney Middleton (9)
I’m confused, which team has all those internationals in their backrow?
Dctarget
Tim Horan (67)
None obviously. I'm pointing out that the Rebels will struggle to go far fielding flankers that don't come close to the top 5 in Australia (let alone the competition).
Same goes for the front row. Great depth of decent players, no world beaters. No Slipper, Tupou, Kepu, AAA, Sio etc. The backline might be immense (as it was last year), but without any secure ball they're not going to do shit.
Dctarget
Tim Horan (67)
Edit:
In fact the talent is actually pretty well spread regarding backrowers across the other three franchises:
Brumbies - Pocock and Samu
Waratahs - Dempsey and Hooper
Reds - Timu, Tui and I really hope Gill
All those backrows are better by a significant margin
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Naisarani, Hardwick, Cottrell and Jones aren't too shabby. I agree not in the class of a couple of those guys mentioned but surely isn't a weakness.
Locks as well is fairly well covered with Coleman and Philip, Jones will supply a quality backup and RHP is a developing talent.
The front row (minus the hookers) is the worry. Its a combination of talent (Ainsley and Sa'aga) that haven't shown any ability to dominate, some old timers that are very injury prone, and a couple of honest pros.
If the rebels can get parity at scrum they will win a lot of games, but there will be 4/5 teams that will mince the scrum and cause massive issues
If Ainsley and Sa'aga can keep developing then it might be a very good season, but atm its too weak to even contemplate anything more than simply making finals
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Well, they certainly don't compare when you leave out one or two of the actual Rebels starting backrow next year.........
Dctarget
Tim Horan (67)
Agreed.
I know you Brumbies folk rate Naisarani highly, but the jury is still out for me. I'm happy to be proven wrong and (hope to be), but I rate those backrowers I listed earlier well above Naisarani. I'd be a very happy man if he proved me wrong this season.
Mick The Munch
Vay Wilson (31)
Australian rugby has an issue at scrum time, not much depth at all, I think our pack will hold up against any other in the Aus conference. The average age of starting pack is what 23/24? They are only going to get better.
I am much happier with a younger, growing pack and a dynamite back line!
Plus the (possible) highlight reel will bring more fans to the Stockade!!
Mick The Munch
Vay Wilson (31)
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Jim Lenehan (48)
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