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Rebels 2013

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James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
Best to keep match specific talk to the match thread, general discussion to this.

Particularly for trial matches, much of the match discussion gives way to more speculation about the season proper. I don't know if such speculation is necessarily inappropriate for this thread.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Neville had a couple of games, or part of games in 6 at Manly last year and went alright, I had just thought it will be Neville 5, and Jones 6.
Understand he is still EPS but after last season and being light on in 7's I thought Jordy Ried may have had a go on the padock
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He went more than alright; he was terrific. The coach knows what he can do in the 2nd row but this is a trial and the coach has done well to chose him in the spot - be be tried out there.

Agree on Reid.

Apart from the proven Super starters including Wobs, are all the Rebels non-regular players, including the invited training players outside the EPS, not getting a run?

The Tahs are playing all their invited players including a few nose-pickers, but the Rebels look like there are not many outside their Super Rugby and EPS guys.

I should look it up but maybe others can tell me off the top of their heads.
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James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
Apart from the proven Super starters including Wobs, are all the Rebels non-regular players, including the invited training players outside the EPS, not getting a run?

There's information floating around on Facebook at the moment that Kemu Valentine (a local Vic product) of the wider training squad is being taken over for the trial. This seems to indicate that players not already named may get a run and that there might be more of the EPS and wider training squad taken.
 

Dave Beat

Paul McLean (56)
He went more than alright; he was terrific. The coach knows what he can do in the 2nd row but this is a trial and the coach has done well to chose him in the spot - be be tried out there.

Agree on Reid.

Apart from the proven Super starters including Wobs, are all the Rebels non-regular players, including the invited training players outside the EPS, not getting a run?

The Tahs are playing all their invited players including a few nose-pickers, but the Rebels look like there are not many outside their Super Rugby and EPS guys.

I should look it up but maybe others can tell me off the top of their heads.
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Yes Lee agree with "more" a large array of skills he has.
As for the wider group, I don't know I found that interesting.
What Jordy did first year out of colts, and discussions on this forum about the Rebs shortage on a specialist 7 I was surprised.
 

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
Yes Lee agree with "more" a large array of skills he has.
As for the wider group, I don't know I found that interesting.
What Jordy did first year out of colts, and discussions on this forum about the Rebs shortage on a specialist 7 I was surprised.
Have heard some of the extended squad are going, just not named to start either half.

With regards to specialist 7, both players in contention for the 7 jersey need some game time. Saffy has had a long lay off and Fuglistaller
to see how he copes with the step up to Super Rugby standard.

 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
There's information floating around on Facebook at the moment that Kemu Valentine (a local Vic product) of the wider training squad is being taken over for the trial. This seems to indicate that players not already named may get a run and that there might be more of the EPS and wider training squad taken.

What's his background?
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
OK - now the name twigs.

He's a big bopper ethnic Islander centre who played for Vic Schools in 2012. He was called over to NZ last year to replace an Oz Schools touring player who was injured.

There's another Valetini - Bill - who I assume is a relative who plays on the wing.

Both looked promising but it's early days for them.
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elementfreak

Trevor Allan (34)
Oops, its Valetini, I don't know much but he is purportedly a 'Quin's player. Perhaps some more involved individuals will have more info.
He's a good player, too good for local rugby as he has consistently ripped it up in the games I have seen him play but that was in colts. This year he should be making the step up to senior rugby and it will be interesting to see how he goes.
 

James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
Apart from the proven Super starters including Wobs, are all the Rebels non-regular players, including the invited training players outside the EPS, not getting a run?

Some photos coming in from the touring group, Jordy Reid is front and centre in many of them so I imagine he'll be getting some game time.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151396725424617.501207.205951614616&type=1

Although, saying that I notice that Higginbotham is there as well and IIRC he's not fit to play.
 
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daz

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Anyone attending the Weary Dunlop lunch next Friday (8th) at Crown? It is the formal season launch with all the lads attending.

ARU CEO Bill Pulver is the guest speaker and his topic is "The future of Rugby".

My ticket is sorted, so happy to have a beer and a catchup with any Gaggerlanders who might be attending.
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
Is there a list somewhere of players in the Rebels WTG?

Other than EPS players, I haven't come across one.

Dale Stevenson (Prop ex-shotput)
Kemu Valetini (centre - Aus schools)

Know any others ?
 

James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
Is there a list somewhere of players in the Rebels WTG?

I think in the nature of these things, it is a fluid thing. Ostensibly it is handled by the Rebel Rising team (http://www.melbournerebels.com.au/Community/RebelRugby.aspx), so I don't know if there is a whole lot of training directly with the main Rebels group. Going by the above page, it looks more like it is a bit of an on-and-off thing rather than something of an ongoing nature.

Also, from a recent news corp article on the topic (http://www.news.com.au/sport/rugby-...nst-nsw-waratahs/story-fndpt9s1-1226566698911), it appears that the Rebels will be using 31 of their contracted players + Valetini. I imagine the outs are Beale, Higginbotham, Woodward and Kingi Situati.
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
I think in the nature of these things, it is a fluid thing. Ostensibly it is handled by the Rebel Rising team (http://www.melbournerebels.com.au/Community/RebelRugby.aspx), so I don't know if there is a whole lot of training directly with the main Rebels group. Going by the above page, it looks more like it is a bit of an on-and-off thing rather than something of an ongoing nature.

Thanks. That's fair enough. I think the Reds and, to an extent, the Brumbies and Waratahs have formalised it a bit more during this off-season. If academy funding is restored as the Super franchises have been calling for, then it should only solidify more.

One reason I asked was to see if there was another bolter like Nigel Ah Wong waiting to be unleashed. Starting from the Reds College several months back, he looks like he could press strongly for a Super Rugby position this season.
 

FiveStarStu

Bill McLean (32)
Kemu Valetini is a Quins product, robust inside centre with explosive power, in the Tuilagi mould. Represented Victorian and Australian schoolboys over the past few years. Would be a great first VRU Rebel in years to come.

A few of the Rising boys/WTG are going down with the playing squad, mainly for community stuff and to continue training, I think.
 

jauzy19

Ward Prentice (10)
Luke Burgess has an offer on the table from the Rebels for 2014. Despite one year left on his contract Toulouse would be keen to release him if they can find a good scrum half to replace him.
 
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