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Queensland Reds 2025

Steve_Grey

Billy Sheehan (19)
Up against the start of the six nations too.

Makes you wonder what the future is for this kind of tour, The NH teams just play so many games. There's never really a good time
That's very true - NH play so many more games than us; one of the differentiators in standards imho - timing of the tour over the 6N period is certainly questionable.
 

Strewthcobber

David Codey (61)
In theory, the Ulster game shouldn't have the same issues. They have no other games before 16/2, and not too many in the Ireland squad.
 

Ignoto

Peter Sullivan (51)
There is certainly merit in these games during the window when our Wallabies players aren't available (i.e. Nov/Dec), but as a full strength pre season fixture the Reds would have been better off having a game against the Force rather than travel to Winterfell to play a club B team.
I disagree - going away on tour where you're spending day and night with your extended squad has intangible benefits that are difficult to measure.

With so many new joiners over the last 6 months, I can imagine touring and spending 2-3 weeks as a larger squad helps dramatically bring cohesion to the group compared to turning up to training then going back to your house. On tour you go sight-seeing, play golf and enjoy the company of each other.

For the younger squad members, I can see being surrounded by the first and last named Wallaby captains along with Fraser can help set the bar on what is expected of you outside of a training environment.

Depending on how the weather goes, it can also help improve resiliency. Nothing helps give you a grounding point than freezing, wet and shit conditions that's found in the UK. Compared the the dry tracks we have here.
 

Ras

Herbert Moran (7)
From the SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) Preseason forum:

Bloody awesome experience for the Bristol "Ring ins" playing against 11 recent wallabies.

On the Reds side it sounds like a bit of a miss. They used to play a warm up/End of season game against a QPR Challenger team. I can't see this being any higher caliber of football and a lot more $$ and admin for the exercise. Lets hope they get a lot out of the Ulster game.
 

Ras

Herbert Moran (7)
I disagree - going away on tour where you're spending day and night with your extended squad has intangible benefits that are difficult to measure.

With so many new joiners over the last 6 months, I can imagine touring and spending 2-3 weeks as a larger squad helps dramatically bring cohesion to the group compared to turning up to training then going back to your house. On tour you go sight-seeing, play golf and enjoy the company of each other.
If this tour doesn't result in a Sydney Roosters Rap group "Dreamyourz" style album I think its fallen short on $ value for culture.
 

JRugby2

Alex Ross (28)
From the SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) (Super Rugby Pacific) Preseason forum:

Bloody awesome experience for the Bristol "Ring ins" playing against 11 recent wallabies.

On the Reds side it sounds like a bit of a miss. They used to play a warm up/End of season game against a QPR Challenger team. I can't see this being any higher caliber of football and a lot more $$ and admin for the exercise. Lets hope they get a lot out of the Ulster game.
we're fucked now, cheers
 
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Mug Punter

Ted Fahey (11)
Love the concept of touring overseas but in my opinion makes it pointless to verse essentially an academy side (Bristol have a Prem game tomorrow)

Already have 54 points after 49 mins, not sure they gain anything from this. Games against our local first grade sides would be more competitive and require far less resources
 

Steve_Grey

Billy Sheehan (19)
Love the concept of touring overseas but in my opinion makes it pointless to verse essentially an academy side (Bristol have a Prem game tomorrow)

Already have 54 points after 49 mins, not sure they gain anything from this. Games against our local first grade sides would be more competitive and require far less resources
Yes - it is all about the planning - Bristol using their strongest side in the Premiership Cup on Sat, so tonight's Red's game is vs Academy and Uni Students.

Let's hope no injuries from this.
 

Adam84

John Eales (66)
Not sure this was of much value
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TSR

Steve Williams (59)
I assume the Reds thought Bristol would be a lot tougher but it sounds like an extensive injury toll has really stretched them.

I still think the tour will do wonders for the development for some of the players. Just to be thrown into such a different environment and having to thrive.

But yeah - ideally would be a much tougher game. Hopefully Ulster will be a lot more competitive.
 

PhilClinton

Mark Loane (55)
A few people here clearly never been on a tour with their school or club before. Who gives a fuck if they pump they these guys, it’s about building a team culture over shared experiences across 2 weeks in Europe.

These are some of the things our game can do to give us a leg up on the other codes. Can’t do this type of tour with AFL.
 

dru

David Wilson (68)
A few people here clearly never been on a tour with their school or club before. Who gives a fuck if they pump they these guys, it’s about building a team culture over shared experiences across 2 weeks in Europe.

These are some of the things our game can do to give us a leg up on the other codes. Can’t do this type of tour with AFL.

As a description of "what it is about" that is incomplete. Yes there is value in in builidng the team environment while on tour. Greater value would come from better opposition in terms of testing the team at rugby. It may come yet in the the next trial.
 

PhilClinton

Mark Loane (55)
As a description of "what it is about" that is incomplete. Yes there is value in in builidng the team environment while on tour. Greater value would come from better opposition in terms of testing the team at rugby. It may come yet in the the next trial.

Keep in mind the key word here is trial games. I don’t think many teams would be trialling against the best ever teams.

Anyway, this is the first time doing this in a long time. I’m sure they will tinker with the teams played, time of the tour and who we might end up playing in trials back on home soil.

I’m just so surprised with the amount of negative feedback.
 

Spamnoodle

Fred Wood (13)
A few people here clearly never been on a tour with their school or club before. Who gives a fuck if they pump they these guys, it’s about building a team culture over shared experiences across 2 weeks in Europe.

These are some of the things our game can do to give us a leg up on the other codes. Can’t do this type of tour with AFL.

Exactly. Sick of the negativity.

Apparently the crowd was quite healthy to.
 

Ignoto

Peter Sullivan (51)
Some people will never be happy. There was absolutely nothing the Reds could do that was right in some whining eyes.

If it was a close game, people would be moaning that the Reds should have done better.

The Reds flog Bristol and it's we should never have played them.

I don't need to see another game against a Super side, we play those teams enough. And until WR (World Rugby) sorts out a better global schedule the NH/SH teams will forever be out of whack on who's available.
 
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