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QLD Reds 2010

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James Buchanan

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Trevor Allan (34)
en_force_er said:
I would imagine their style of rowing wouldn't involve much legs at all.

Yes, rowing is pretty much an all leg exercise but it isn't how non-rowers seem to approach it.
Don't ask me why, just an observation I've picked up in the gym.
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You would imagine they would get terrible results.
 
en_force_er

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
James Buchanan said:
en_force_er said:
I would imagine their style of rowing wouldn't involve much legs at all.

Yes, rowing is pretty much an all leg exercise but it isn't how non-rowers seem to approach it.
Don't ask me why, just an observation I've picked up in the gym.
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You would imagine they would get terrible results.
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yeah. it would be one of those good in theory, but not in practice tests.

how often do you think these guys jump on an ergo in their own time?
 
Bruce Ross

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
Lindommer said:
Bruce Ross said:
... specificity to the sport of rugby.
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Bruce of Broadway, would that be "programmed"?
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Not only does specificity have to be programmed in the Twerp era, Lindommer, but I noted that "working families" has been dusted off and got a mention yesterday. I think I feel an election coming on.
 
liquor box

liquor box

Peter Sullivan (51)
Cooper looked fit on the news tonight, and he finally got a haircut!

He actually is looking like a man with a mision.
 
JJJ

JJJ

Vay Wilson (31)
Agreed that bench-press shouldn't count for much. From what I understand it doesn't build much core strength, which is where it's at. I guess it could help those sneaky punches in the ruck, though. Not much else. Anyone know if S14 rugby players train with kettlebells at all?

This stuff is all well and good, but I'd like to see the kind of figures being produced by the kiwis and saffas for their equivalent tests. Any notion where I could look for those?
 
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TOCC

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Well this is just music to the ears:

All Blacks and Blues back Luke McAlister will miss the first two or three games of the Rebel Sport Super 14, with the 26 year old likely to be back in the fourth round.

That match, a blockbuster against the Crusaders at AMI Stadium on March 6th, will likely be the same game that another All Black returns, none other than test captain Richie McCaw.

The two men to have captained the All Blacks last year, McCaw and Mils Muliaina, are essentially taking extended leave and sitting out the opening rounds of the 2010 Super 14. The Chiefs captain is scheduled to return in the fourth round.

http://allblacks.com/index.cfm?layout=displayNews&newsarticle=12056
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Rd 1 13 February
Reds vs NSW

Rd 2 19 February
Reds vs Crusaders

Rd 3 27 February
Reds vs Blues

So the Reds face a Blues side minus McAliter and a Crusaders side minus McCaw.. Whilst admittedly i would like to see the Reds face and beat a full strenght opposition, im more then happy to watch them win against weakened teams early in the season if they front up at the later end.
 
disco

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Chilla Wilson (44)
So the Reds face a Blues side minus McAliter and a Crusaders side minus McCaw.. Whilst admittedly i would like to see the Reds face and beat a full strenght opposition, im more then happy to watch them win against weakened teams early in the season if the front up at the later end.
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As long as we're full strength I'll be confident, i'll be even more confident if Carter is also missing in round 2.
 
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chief

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Yes would be very happy facing a team without Carter, however a McCaw loss makes me satisfied enough.
 
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Ash said:
Interesting that the Tahs gym comp events did not even involve any event with leg strength as the primary requirement, although leg strength is required for the farmers walk, and the row to a lesser extent.
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There are a number of reasons why leg strength wouldn't be measured, primarily the time of year (eg volume of running, risk/reward etc). The last Journal put out by The Australian Strength and Conditioning Association had some squat numbers from the Force.
 
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Bruce Ross said:
Again some have very limited specificity to the sport of rugby.
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The only strength training exercise that is rugby specific in playing the game with a weighted vest. They train movements and to a lesser extent muscles. The bench is as valid as any other (although does have higher risk of injury). You can look at things like the squat, say it is specific (eg lineouts, scrums) but the reality is in rugby you do everything on the balls of your feet, but you squat on your heels, this targets a completely different set of muscles. You squat because relative squat strength (3rm/bw) has been shown as a reliable predictor of speed over 10m in athletes (even though the squat isn't specific) amongst other things.

Truthfully, not a huge fan of the bench press myself, but things don't need to be that 'specific'.
 
Bruce Ross

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
Doc said:
The only strength training exercise that is rugby specific in playing the game with a weighted vest.
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If that were indeed the case, Doc, then there would be a high degree of correlation between excessive skin folds and superior strength. From my observations I don't think this is so. Players that appear to be wearing at least a couple of padded vests - which by the way is outlawed by the IRU - do not seem to be particularly strong. They can, however, exert a significant amount of force when they flop on top of a ruck.
 
RugbyReg

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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a par in the paper today suggesting that Link is trying to sign Sam Norton-Knight. Not only for 2011 but as soon as possible.

I guess he is a legit fullback option for the Reds.
 
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