Qld Premier Rugby 2013

[thierry dusautoir]

nope wrong about wade, i was thinking of fidow

 

[Cat_A]

thierry dusautoir He played mostly LHP, but given he played every year for 8 or more years (came own after school season finished in yr 12 & never left), then worked his way up through the grades (captain-coached a 3rd grade side to a premiership IIRC?) before eventually "making it" its a safe bet that he played wherever he was needed - both THP & LHP.

He came back from a stint in the US College system & I'm told that he played halfback over there. [I'm still not convinced of this, but was told it was to do with lack of opposed scrums or quality of opposition front row at that level...]

It would've been interesting to see where he would've played if he came back to Brisbane this year & Chibba also played some club rugby. A few years ago when Moore came back for a few games Chibba was moved to 6 (still captain).

 

[Jets]

S. Morahan played 3 years. THink you could be right about Butler though.

 

[Refabit]

S. Morahan played 3 years. THink you could be right about Butler though.

Simon Morahan played 3 years & older brother Luke played 2 in 1st XV with first 2 years together.
Butler played 1 year, made Aus schools then injured his shoulder and didn't lace a boot in his final year.

 

[Rugby follower]

Just a few thoughts on the Brothers v Norths game on the weekend. Great atmosphere at Norths, fantastic place on the hill to watch rugby. Firstly full marks for Brothers the way they are playing the game at the moment, very strong backline, pace across the board, pity it is an ex Norths player, Bondy, that is leading from the front. Norths competed well, however at the end of the day it was the class of Brothers that shone through and it was a comfortable win. 10, 11, 14 were particulary strong in the backs. Norths have a genuine match winner on the left wing with Veresa Vuki and I would love to get some money on him for top try scorer again this year, this bloke just knows where the try line is. Brothers Prem Colts also looked very good with a very strong influence from the Nudgee First XV from last year.

 

[Crusher]

East Coast Aces At the time, Rebels wanted Tessmann because he was a "front rower"- he had played prop almost exclusively at Uni, then at Eastwood I think he went to hooker almost full-time. The Rebels wanted one person on a bench who could cover the 2 specialist positions. And on the bench he stayed.
Cat, having watched all bar one of their 4 games this season, I think the short turnaround was a factor but that is because I don't think their squad has much depth or quality to it and the level of fitness apparent in games shows they can barely keep pace with their opposition. I also think the environment down there is not good with a number of talented youngsters preferring to move to Brisbane clubs than play with some of the old heads that are still floating around like a ad smell
Crusher Do you think the four day turnaround was a factor for the Breakers at all?

 

[Stallion]

Looking forward to Stallion thoughts on my dogs coming up this Saturday.

Hopefully not like last years result in the season ending match at Yoku Rd

In all honesty, I think if everything goes to script Wests could be in for a really long day at the office this Saturday. Saw the game against Souths from last week, and from that performance I just don't think Wests have the personnel to go with GPS this week.

Have heard a few whispers that Jeeps get Radike back for this game along with JP Smith to bolster an already imposing pack including the likes of Jono Ellis, the Toolis twins and Philip Kite, not to mention being able to call Mitch Wade and Mitch King off the bench will give Wests no respite as well. Looks pretty ominous for Wests, but the Bulldogs have surprised me before, so I wont take anything for granted. Am looking forward to a good battle between N.Genia and S.Grasso as well which will make for an entertaining afternoon of footy.

From what I saw last week, there were only a few bright lights from the game against Souths. In the backs young Sam Greene looks to have some real promise about him outside the reliable Nigel Genia but other then those two, Wests' midfield and outside backs are a real concern for mine with Souths constantly breaking the ad line on numerous occasions through those channels while not asking a lot of questions in attack either. Wests lack some real firepower in the centres and in the back three with Nelson's best days behind him and no one with a real presence in the centres to help usher young Greene into grade in defence.

I thought Wests were pretty poor up front against Souths as well with Souths down to 7 for almost three quarters of the game and not be able to impose themselves at scrum time really just rams it home for me. I hoped the willing and tireless efforts of Uebergang especially, as well as vice captain Cameron and Setu would inspire the rest of the Bulldogs pack into gear but it just didn't happen. I was pretty disappointed with Faagase's performance on the weekend as well considering his experience in the Reds A college and recent experience in the Pacific Nations Cup, for him not to make his presence more evident impacts the overall performance of the Dogs engine room because I'm sure others look to him to lead the way. Also giving away soft penalties for early engagement while holding a numerical advantage is an absolute coach killer as well and Faagase was guilty of that infringement more times than someone of his ability and experience should be. He will need to improve his output against GPS if Wests are going to be any hope.

Just another thing about the Wests and Souths game, I thought the ref really ruined this game. Have watched over the tapes and the red card issued to Dave Feao was an absolute disgrace of a call, firstly because it was Dave who made the tackle and secondly the tackle that was actually made by Sam Denny absolutely no way went past the horizontal and three the touchy also falsely advised that the tackler had dropped the ball runner and not tried to Him to the turf......Was a bloody poor call.
The yellow card, issued to the Wests player for the same offence was also a disgraceful call, one because it was actually worse than the one Feao got a red card for, two, it also didn't go past the horizontal and didn't deserve to be penalised in the first place and three, again the tackler assisted the ball carrier to the ground. Two copy book tackles, adjudicated as foul play.

Another thing that really grated me watching this game was the referee's over officiating at scrum time, I think the main reason it was such a shambles during this game was because the referee had a major role in not setting a rhythm for the set calls, and constantly resetting the entire scrums for trivial minuscule reasons that had no impact on the play, it was absolutely ridiculous and had a major role in both teams not being able to get any real momentum. Probably one of the worst set piece referee performances I have seen in a long time. Hopefully back to officiating under 10's for those involved to sharpen the whistle skills I think.

 

[Stallion]

I don't know Thierry, but for the Reds to over-look him is unfair, he is a good player.

Coady is a good player, no doubt and probably deserved an opportunity during the stretch when the Filth were at the top of the food chain but I think his best days are behind him. Best hooker in premier rugby is Maile Ngauamo, then Mitch Wade, then followed by Andrew Ready.

 

[thierry dusautoir]

Stallion it think you may be a bit surprised how things go come this weekend. Remembering that wests had not had as many minutes on the paddock as souths. honestly i dont know if wests will win but its i doubt it will be a long day at the office.

I actually thing pete nelson is playing solid footy this season and its not like he is that old anyway

 

[warhorse]

Stallion re the Wests v Souths game last week. The Souths scrum at training this week were saying the exact same thing about the consistency or lack of consistency in the call for setting the scrums. The ref was Matt O'Brien, a very experienced ref., but maybe he has been refereeing a lot of Sevens lately and hasn't had to manage full scrums.

 

[Stallion]

Stallion it think you may be a bit surprised how things go come this weekend. Remembering that wests had not had as many minutes on the paddock as souths. honestly i dont know if wests will win but its i doubt it will be a long day at the office.

I actually thing pete nelson is playing solid footy this season and its not like he is that old anyway

Lets hope your right about which Wests outfit rocks up this weekend, I always prefer a hard fought game anyway. Also, not having as many minutes on the park is actually another reason Wests in my opinion will probably struggle on the weekend on top of the ones I mentioned previously, because Jeeps are playing very strongly at the moment, not to mention home ground advantage where Wests have traditionally struggled to get a result also weighing in to a overwhelming case for a strong Jeeps win.

The other reason I think Jeeps will be hard to beat is because the team is strong where Wests don't particularly have that sort of strength. Apart from the superiority the Jeeps forwards will have up front, in the centres Kerevi and Kuridrani offer a bit more than their centre counterparts as a centre combination, and if you can say with a straight face that Greene didn't struggle last week in defence, just imagine how much more traffic he'll get with those two running at him all day not to mention Radike off the back of the scrums. It will be a true baptism of fire for young lad.

Jeeps also have the kicking prowess of Frisby at the back as well so, if one was to make an educated guess on a result for the weekend, I honestly don't know how you could come up with anything different to tell you the truth. The only match up I'd say Wests had an advantage would be at 9 and possibly at 10, but those positions are so heavily reliant on a dominant forward pack the man on man match up often becomes void unless both packs are of equal ability which in this case is not.

As for Nelson, I didn't say he was playing badly, I actually agree he is still very much holding his own in a struggling back line I just don't think he offers what he used to when he first exploded onto the Premier rugby scene, but then again when he did come into grade Wests had some crazy firepower at their disposal all over the paddock, where unfortunately the majority of that group has moved on. (A la Luafutu, McMenimen, Skelton (in his prime), Higgenbotham, Mosey etc etc)

Am interested to get your thoughts about how Wests will need to play to get a W on this game mate. Like I said, that is just my prediction going over the form guides and both squads, I do understand things happen on the footy field contrary to what's on paper, so for your sake like I said previously I do hope the boys from Sylvan Rd have a red hot go and prove me wrong......without actually beating my beloved Gallopers. Just calling a spade a spade.

 

[Stallion]

Stallion re the Wests v Souths game last week. The Souths scrum at training this week were saying the exact same thing about the consistency or lack of consistency in the call for setting the scrums. The ref was Matt O'Brien, a very experienced ref., but maybe he has been refereeing a lot of Sevens lately and hasn't had to manage full scrums.

He had a shocker, just way too nitpicky when it comes to scrum time for me. Imagine having a player red carded for something he didn't do in the first place and wasn't illegal play. I would probably say he was a contributing factor to Wests not being able to take advantage of the extra scrummager, did not allow a clear, cohesive and consistent engagement. Not a fan.

 

[FilthRugby]

Stallion for the sake of my sanity, don't bring up the topic of poor refereeing performances haha!

 

[Stallion]

Just quietly FilthRugby, how good of a pick up was Michael Bond for you guys? I'd say Norths would be fairly dirty he returned to play at Crosby instead of Shaw Sports...quality player, with Murphy inside going great guns and Gendle still a force, Brothers arguably have one of the better if not the best 10,12,13 combinations in the comp.

 

[Red Heavy]

Looking forward to hearing reports of what should be a great day at stade de heavy for UNI v Easts. Hopefully a strong crowd to go along with the 400+ ladies that turn up for ladies day each year (although they don't always watch a lot of rugby). The front row is a huge match up as is white v Morahan. Pitty JJ Taulagi is out as it would have been great to see him up against aiden. Although Tuffley will bring a lot of calm and control to the team.

 

[FilthRugby]

Just quietly FilthRugby, how good of a pick up was Michael Bond for you guys? I'd say Norths would be fairly dirty he returned to play at Crosby instead of Shaw Sports.quality player, with Murphy inside going great guns and Gendle still a force, Brothers arguably have one of the better if not the best 10,12,13 combinations in the comp.

Stal, awesome addition to the Brothers backline. I watched a bit of Jeeps v Easts last week, I really rate the 2nd rowers and the Number 7. Nick Frisby was good at fullback. Reckon you bloke are a chance mate?

 

[Stallion]

Stal, awesome addition to the Brothers backline. I watched a bit of Jeeps v Easts last week, I really rate the 2nd rowers and the Number 7. Nick Frisby was good at fullback. Reckon you bloke are a chance mate?

FilthRugby, I think we're definitely top 4 material this year, whether we're legitimately ready to contend for the title I'm not sure. I will reserve my judgement until we've played Brothers and Sunnybank who we've traditionally struggled with. What I do know is that this year's squad is probably the best squad in terms of balance and talent we've had in probably 10+ years.

For the first time in a long time we have some good big men to compete at line out time and also some good big men up front to match some very dangerous weapons we have out wide. In the backs we've tended to have one or two really good backs surrounded by some solid contributors, this year we have 4 or 5 genuine game breakers which is a first for the club.

Im not brave enough to declare we are genuine title contenders but I will say we definitely have the potential.

 

[Scott Allen]

Went out to GPS v Wests today - GPS were totally dominant. Wests kept trying all game but were just hanging on.

Final score 34-8 but have seen tweets claiming it was 38-8. Reality was that Wests scored from 1 of the only 2 visits they had into GPS 22 and GPS blew at least 6 sure tries with poor passes, poor options or dropped balls.

For Wests, Waita Setu was outstanding and Mick Lee was pretty good.

I can't recall a bad player for GPS - Nick Frisby brilliantly set up the first try and looked dangerous all day but also made a lot of mistakes. I thought Radike tried to do a bit too much on his own but was strong.

 

[Stallion]

Went out to GPS v Wests today - GPS were totally dominant. Wests kept trying all game but were just hanging on.

Final score 34-8 but have seen tweets claiming it was 38-8. Reality was that Wests scored from 1 of the only 2 visits they had into GPS 22 and GPS blew at least 6 sure tries with poor passes, poor options or dropped balls.

For Wests, Waita Setu was outstanding and Mick Lee was pretty good.

I can't recall a bad player for GPS - Nick Frisby brilliantly set up the first try and looked dangerous all day but also made a lot of mistakes. I thought Radike tried to do a bit too much on his own but was strong.

I'm looking forward to watching the video of the game, wasn't able to get down to Yoku today. Can't say I was expecting any other result though, just too much firepower for GPS all over the park. Good to see Waita continues with his good form for the Bulldogs. Looking forward to seeing how young Greene went as well.

Was surprised how badly Norths got dusted by Souths today, not mention the boil over at St Lucia with the Tigers. Anyone got a rundown on those games?

 

[Straith]

I'm looking forward to watching the video of the game,?

Where do the videos get posted?