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Qld Premier Rugby 2013

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Refabit

Refabit

Darby Loudon (17)
thierry dusautoir said:
Technically a quick lineout should not have been allowed.
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Why not?
Clubstalwart posted the relevant law above:
(d) For a quick throw-in, the player must use the ball that went into touch. A quick throw-in is not permitted if another person has touched the ball apart from the player throwing it in and an opponent who carried it into touch. The same team throws into the lineout.

I must have missed the exception for "clubs that had just lost their coach or were too lazy to watch what their opponents were doing".
 
SouthernX

SouthernX

John Thornett (49)
Happy jack posted the law however he did it in club Stewart's quote of text so it might of been a oversight by Thierry who didn't see it.

So technically refabbit you should cut Thierry some slack and there is no referee rules exception for rookie/departing coaches.
 
SouthernX

SouthernX

John Thornett (49)
Dogs caught knapping, simple as that.

Any team should know that the Filth are the vultures of counter attack. Ready to swoop on opponents turnovers!!!
 
Refabit

Refabit

Darby Loudon (17)
SouthernX said:
Happy jack posted the law however he did it in club Stewart's quote of text so it might of been a oversight by Thierry who didn't see it.

So technically refabbit you should cut Thierry some slack and there is no referee rules exception for rookie/departing coaches.
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Ok I promise to cut Thierry some slack.
As long as he cuts the referee whinge when a side goes down by 50 points.
As a tip to Wests Premier and all other players, when you hear the whistle - stop. Until then - don't stop.
 
thierry dusautoir

thierry dusautoir

Alan Cameron (40)
I didnt see happy jack's in quote post so my mistake.

However i stand by the dubious scrum calls.....which i think is a problem that plagues premier rugby. It is hard to understand the nuances scrum for someone who has never stuck their melon in there but still i find to often that scrum time can become a penalty lottery.

I would be interested to here from Refabit how the qru approaches trainign refs about how to handle scrumtime?
 
happyjack

happyjack

Sydney Middleton (9)
There were 30 penalties in the Wests - Brothers game (16 - 14).
The refs had their last training night on scrum with guest presenters talking to them. I believe zero tolerance for early engagement and failure to bind were prominent as well as dominant scrubs remaining legal with no driving in or up.
Scrum was no issue at the Uni - Sunnybank game with no early engagements, collapses or resets.
Wests had the same defensive strategy as Sunnybank out wide, simply don't tackle while Uni and Brothers seemed to be soft up the middle.
 
SouthernX

SouthernX

John Thornett (49)
Scrumtime is even more difficult for referees getting right then basketball referees calling the difference between charge & blocking fouls.

Wests clearly had the more dominate scrum & from my viewpoint we did not make contact early or anything like that, I won't even act like I am a scrum expert who knows what he is talking about but to give the referee the benefiet of the doubt being only cm from the action (compared to arm chair critics on the sideline) then the referee could easily award the home team the 50/50 calls on the grey areas knowing full well that it can be hard to identify who truly was at fault.

PS. I don't think refs are crooks, but they can all work on their scrummaging theory.
 
The Oldest Rat

The Oldest Rat

Peter Burge (5)
Watched a bit of Prem grade and came to the conclusion that Brothers were superior out wide, far too much speed for the Dogs. I thought that the HB (Tim) in the first half was better than Genia and gave Green a little more space to move, but it was all over by the time Genia got on the field. They need some more aggression and I don't mean with biff.

Watched Prem colts and it was like watching boys against men. Dogs tried hard but were outmuscled in the forwards and got blown away in the outside backs. Can't comment too much because of bias as my son plays at HB for the dogs. I've been away from Brisbane club land for a few years now, but nothing has changed, lot of feeling in the game, bit of biff even in Colts.
 
Stallion

Stallion

Herbert Moran (7)
TheBigDog said:
Thats the first i'd heard of Wade being at GPS but it does seem strange. At the club this year there seems to be a plethora of Premier Grade standard front rowers around, so much so that some blokes who were running on for reggies last season will be making their 2013 debut off the bench in 3rd grade. Strange move but we'll see what happens. My thoughts were similar when Grasso came across but he seems to have made the Premier #9 jersey his own for the time being.
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When I heard Wade was coming accross I was pretty stoked, but Nicol's performance, particularly at the set piece will make it very hard for Wade not to start from the bench again this weekend. With regards to Grasso, I agree that he is playing some good footy, plays a similar style to Franks but a lot more assertive with his darting around the rucks but I believe Scott Malolua offers a bit more at 9 then Grasso because of what he offers in terms of running metres after contact as well as his vision. Had an absolute blinder off the bench against the Bank in the final trial and there was an obvious difference when he came on against the Breakers. Either way, if Shane Arnold can manage to find a way to keep all parties interested the depth down at Yoku this year is amazing.
 
Stallion

Stallion

Herbert Moran (7)
guru13 said:
Any thoughts on the gps v breakers game ?
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I was down at Yoku on the weekend, and I thought GPS were definitely the better side in terms of cattle. It was pretty evident the Gallopers were looking to play some attacking footy with a forward pack now capable of mixing it physically with the bigger forward packs in the competition with Jono Ellis, Phil Kite, and the ever improving Toolis twins winning the battle up front for the home side more often than not.

Even though the Breakers adopted a spectator unfriendly approach to their footy on the weekend by taking drop goals instead of pressing for tries, if it was an intentional ploy I thought it was a really smart coaching ploy because it really forced the Jeeps boys problems in defence accross the paddock constantly having to worry about making errors in their own half with Evans also on song with his kicking off the ground complementing the drop kicking prowess of Buatava, who was hitting them over from everywhere. From recollection he hit one over from a good 30-40 metres out against the run of play. I think this ploy and some good spoiling tactics at the breakdown from the Breakers forwards as well as the pesky Buatava constantly finding a way to get slow GPS ball down really upset the Gallopers rhythm. Some credit where its due, the Breakers used a very good game plan that suited the troops availble to them.

However, the Ashgrove boys found a way to overcome the brief obstacle by returning to the game plan of attacking the middle third through the forwards and then shifting the pill wide once the Breakers committed too many players to the break down. Scott Malolua made some immediate in roads when he came on around the base but also with some surprising power running with players hanging off his back constantly breaking the ad line after getting some good front foot ball. Would have been a good lesson for the young co captains in learning to deal with a situation when a team does'nt play the way you expect them to.

If there is one area of weakness in the GPS armour from the weekend, I would have to say it is the depth they lack in the midfield. With the Australian under 20's schedule taking up the services of the nifty Samu Kerevi and injury taking up the dangerous but injury prone Jake Milne, not to mention the reliable Pat Selwood who is usually first cab off the rank if there is an injury in the inside backs, Jeeps can ill afford for anything to happen to the safe James Herbert and Nick Zangari until GPS get there boys back in order, because there does not look like many options coming through the lower grades.
 
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Trevor Allan (34)
Here's a list of the players away at the U20 camp this weekend and so unavailable for their clubs:


Curtis Browning - UQ
Conor Mitchell - UQ
Harry Parker - UQ
Scott Gale - UQ
Campbell Wakely - UQ
Sam Fattal - Easts
Andrew Ready - Easts
Ulupano Seuteni - Easts
Jonah Placid - Easts
Feao Fotuaika - Sunnybank
Maile Ngauamo - Sunnybank
Henry Taefu - Sunnybank
Ben Meehan - Sunnybank
Jake McIntyre - Sunnybank
Samuel Kerevi - GPS
Phill Kite - GPS
Jake Milne - GPS
Andrew Muirhead - Souths
John Porch - Norths
Samuel Green - Wests
 
Stallion

Stallion

Herbert Moran (7)
Scott Allen said:
Here's a list of the players away at the U20 camp this weekend and so unavailable for their clubs:


Curtis Browning - UQ
Conor Mitchell - UQ
Harry Parker - UQ
Scott Gale - UQ
Campbell Wakely - UQ
Sam Fattal - Easts
Andrew Ready - Easts
Ulupano Seuteni - Easts
Jonah Placid - Easts
Feao Fotuaika - Sunnybank
Maile Ngauamo - Sunnybank
Henry Taefu - Sunnybank
Ben Meehan - Sunnybank
Jake McIntyre - Sunnybank
Samuel Kerevi - GPS
Phill Kite - GPS
Jake Milne - GPS
Andrew Muirhead - Souths
John Porch - Norths
Samuel Green - Wests
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Samu Kerevi - GPS will also be away on the third camp. Good to see Ben Meehan back playing Union after some time playing league, and Feao Fotuaika getting amongst it after the tragic loss of his brother Mosese. Have not been really sold on Taefu though. Hoping he can rediscover the form that made him a star at Churchie back in his younger days. Anyone knoww much about John Porch from Norths.
 
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