So you tipping GT now?? Yesterday it was Nudgee?? You sit on the fence you will get splinters
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Norselander
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To be honest DC , I was absolutely backing Nudgee as Boulters for a 40 or 50 point win , but "Rugbymans " in vain , but valiant effort to talk Nudgee into "Underdog status" really struck a chord with me. "Rugbyman" seems like a decent chap, so I thought I'd try and lend some weight to his argument and back GT for the win. We still feel a bit bad , about the Viking win, so I thought I would buy some goodwill, and help the Nudgee lads out.
I must say , when I typed it, I had tears of laughter in my eyes. Nudgee are out and out, unbackable favourites for a cricket score this weekend, and to hear the case for Underdog status , well I had to play along !!!
So here it is again - GT to win!
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Mrrugbyguru
Frank Row (1)
what home ground advantage. Nudgee supporters will out number terrace supoorters.
Les Patterson
Chris McKivat (8)
How on earth could Terrace be in Premiership Contention? They are currently in a tie for 5th with TGS and BGS. They need to play NC, TSS and TGS to finish the season - none of which I expect they will win.
The Nomad
Bob Davidson (42)
Few photos of the last time GT had a victory over NC , Sept 2016.
Hopefully we will see a similar crowd this year , plenty of Back & Red amongst the supporters.
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Norselander
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I see that Nudgee have been dominant over GT since 2016 and I suspect many years before that......
That got me thinking. I have pinched this from 2021 Forum and developed so I hope they forgive me, but it does not have the away games results. I would love to see the head to head results, both and home and away of Churchie vs Nudgee this century. ie since 2000. Now Quade and Pocock dominated in the 2004-2006 teams?? so I suspect Nudgee struggled against the era, but may have made up for it in recent years.
The Point being that perhaps Nudgee has not been quite as dominant against Churchie during this period and perhaps its Churchie who has had the dominant first 15 teams since 2000 - prove me wrong Nudgee.
Can anyone fill in the gaps?
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005 CHURCHIE 42 DEFEATED NUDGEE 3 (jack ross)
2006
2007 CHURCHIE DEFEATED NUDGEE (Jack Ross oval) no score recorded
2008
2009?
2010
2011 CHURCHIE DEFEATED NUDGEE (jack ross) no score recorded
2012
2013 CHURCHIE 34 DEFEATED NUDGEE 7 ( jack ross)
2014 CHURCHIE DEFEATED NUDGEE (Main)
2015 CHURCHIE 27 DEFEATED NUDGEE 7 (jack ross)
2016
2017 NUDGEE 47 DEFEATED CHURCHIE 14 (jack ross)
2018
2019 NUDGEE 62 DEFEATED CHURCHIE NIL (jack ross)
2020
2021 NUDGEE DEFEATED CHURCHIE (Ross)
2022 CHURCHIE 33 DEFEATED NUDGEE 27 (Main)
That got me thinking. I have pinched this from 2021 Forum and developed so I hope they forgive me, but it does not have the away games results. I would love to see the head to head results, both and home and away of Churchie vs Nudgee this century. ie since 2000. Now Quade and Pocock dominated in the 2004-2006 teams?? so I suspect Nudgee struggled against the era, but may have made up for it in recent years.
The Point being that perhaps Nudgee has not been quite as dominant against Churchie during this period and perhaps its Churchie who has had the dominant first 15 teams since 2000 - prove me wrong Nudgee.
Can anyone fill in the gaps?
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005 CHURCHIE 42 DEFEATED NUDGEE 3 (jack ross)
2006
2007 CHURCHIE DEFEATED NUDGEE (Jack Ross oval) no score recorded
2008
2009?
2010
2011 CHURCHIE DEFEATED NUDGEE (jack ross) no score recorded
2012
2013 CHURCHIE 34 DEFEATED NUDGEE 7 ( jack ross)
2014 CHURCHIE DEFEATED NUDGEE (Main)
2015 CHURCHIE 27 DEFEATED NUDGEE 7 (jack ross)
2016
2017 NUDGEE 47 DEFEATED CHURCHIE 14 (jack ross)
2018
2019 NUDGEE 62 DEFEATED CHURCHIE NIL (jack ross)
2020
2021 NUDGEE DEFEATED CHURCHIE (Ross)
2022 CHURCHIE 33 DEFEATED NUDGEE 27 (Main)
Norselander you can probably assume that any gaps are Nudgee victories as you would for sure remember the Churchie wins. Churchie and TSS have both has relatively strong success on Ross this millennia against Nudgee. The 1960s in the golden era for Churchie in rugby and sport in general.
My point re Terrace is that I wouldn't write them off this weekend. They have an absolutely outstanding rugby pedigree and whilst the school's focus has changed a lot these days to bringing in a cohort of superstar desk jockeys, no one can take away the fact the school culture is draped in Qld rugby history. The bounce of the ball will determine who wins this one.
My point re Terrace is that I wouldn't write them off this weekend. They have an absolutely outstanding rugby pedigree and whilst the school's focus has changed a lot these days to bringing in a cohort of superstar desk jockeys, no one can take away the fact the school culture is draped in Qld rugby history. The bounce of the ball will determine who wins this one.
Ear
Peter Burge (5)
18-16 Nudgee at Churchie in 2008
Oracle83
Bill McLean (32)
Norselander we love your canine inspired Viking enthusiasm but let’s get real - Nudgee is and will be for a long time the preeminent Rugby institution - not dissimilar to the All Blacks. I think it’s great Churchie are doing well this year but she’s been as dry as a Danish pastry for the past few years.
NC - GT a draw but waiting on team lists as I think the Nudge may have a few injury concerns in key positions
TSS over State High
TGS over BGS
Dogs over soggy saos
Oh Nausealander, I do love how your sample size is picked to suit. For transparency and integrity, lets just do it from the start. Then there can be no arguments.
| SCHOOL | TITLES | OUTRIGHT | SHARED |
|---|---|---|---|
| St Joseph's Nudgee College | 42 | 35 | 7 |
| Anglican Church Grammar School | 18 | 14 | 8 |
| Brisbane State High School | 16 | 8 | 8 |
| The Southport School | 11 | 8 | 3 |
| St Joseph's Gregory Terrace | 10 | 8 | 2 |
| Ipswich Grammar School | 8 | 6 | 2 |
| Brisbane Grammar School | 7 | 3 | 4 |
| Toowoomba Grammar School | 6 | 2 | 4 |
| Brisbane Boys' College | 2 | 1 | 1 |
Norselander
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Nudgee is a very old school, established 1891 and Churchie a newby at 1912. So maybe Nudgee played with themselves to knock up 19 on them.
Also Churchie won 18 titles and 14 outright would that mean 4 shared how come 8 shared? Can we get the number fact checked or is this Nudgee Mathematics ?
Sorry Nausealander I put the wrong heading for the third column. I should have read "Wooden Spoon". Congrats you guys won something. Also mate GPS Rugby didn't start till 1918. wrong again big fella. keep throwing darts.
Norselander
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I "howl" with Warrior delight Oracle at your emotional post to defend your defeated garrison( Unlike you to post like that) - I feel your hurt through your learned writings - but the force is strong in the East this year for they have built a mighty army that splintered 2 Roman legions on the Main Battlefield a few weeks back and as such they currently feast on Wild Boar and Goblets of (non-alcoholic ) Ale and Dance with the prettiest Maidens in the land, in Jubilant celebration. They need not your dry Danish Pastry nor swallow your wild stories of far lands preeminent rugby institutions. They have all they need. That Victory meant they have been to Valhalla this season already......... more music!
BTW All Blacks got dusted to by Ireland this year - are you sure thats the best example? lol
PS I enjoy your regular posts.
I had to split these comments across three posts...
The official Premiership kicked off in 1918 meaning there have been less than 100 seasons contested if we remove the WW2 years (4 years) and the Covid year (1 year) but Churchie were there for all the official GPS rugby seasons.
If we also count the pre-1918 years between the old schools (just friendlies) and the Covid year, it would not be unreasonable to suggest that Nudgee would have won safely 50 or so Premierships.
The official Premiership kicked off in 1918 meaning there have been less than 100 seasons contested if we remove the WW2 years (4 years) and the Covid year (1 year) but Churchie were there for all the official GPS rugby seasons.
If we also count the pre-1918 years between the old schools (just friendlies) and the Covid year, it would not be unreasonable to suggest that Nudgee would have won safely 50 or so Premierships.
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Terrace's winning rate is about 1 win per decade (decade shifts in technology between premierships such as colour TV, the internet).
BBC's winning rate is 1 win in the 20th Century and 1 win in the 21st Century i.e. approximately 2% winning rate (in between generational and historical events spanning two world wars, the rise of China, the Cuban missile crisis, the reign of King George VI to the closing reign of QEII, the moon landing, the fall of the Soviet Union).
BBC's winning rate is 1 win in the 20th Century and 1 win in the 21st Century i.e. approximately 2% winning rate (in between generational and historical events spanning two world wars, the rise of China, the Cuban missile crisis, the reign of King George VI to the closing reign of QEII, the moon landing, the fall of the Soviet Union).
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Oracle83
Bill McLean (32)
Don’t forget GFC And COVID
Oracle83
Bill McLean (32)
Well played Norselander - true warriors battle without vitriol- for the records I’m a proud BBC old boy - (even this year) and all the best for a solid joust on Saturday.
P.S. when your old enough you’ll acknowledge that even if they don’t win a game for the next 10 years the All Blacks are one of the world’s greatest ever sporting successes and always will be. Not just their winning record but the way they lose.
Norselander
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On a more constructive point, Churchie did not move to the current site until 1918 and so I suspect they were the grade ones
so it took a few years to get a competitive rugby program up and running. They did win the premiership first in 1938 so their title wins have mostly come after the war.I have done my homework and of the 35 outright titles Nudgee have won 12 outrights were won between 1918 and 1945 . So 1/3 of their wins , were won before world war 2.
So when we take this pre war period out - you can start to see that the two schools titles are getting closer to even.
I like what you are uncovering though- interesting stats hey? keep them coming.
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Plenty of super smart kids come out of Nudgee and plenty of super top notch sportsmen come out of Terrace. The combined alumni between Nudgee and Terrace is incredible. Same for Churchie.
This is from 2010.
THE NURSERIES OF AUSTRALIAN SCHOOLBOYS' RUGBY
St Joseph's College New South Wales 1881 103
St Joseph's Nudgee College Queensland 1891 87
St Edmunds College Canberra 1954 79
Brisbane State High School 63
The Southport School Southport 1901 65
The King's School Parramatta 1831 57
The Scots College s 1893 48
Saint Ignatius College 1880 45
Anglican Church Grammar 1912 38
This is from 2010.
THE NURSERIES OF AUSTRALIAN SCHOOLBOYS' RUGBY
St Joseph's College New South Wales 1881 103
St Joseph's Nudgee College Queensland 1891 87
St Edmunds College Canberra 1954 79
Brisbane State High School 63
The Southport School Southport 1901 65
The King's School Parramatta 1831 57
The Scots College s 1893 48
Saint Ignatius College 1880 45
Anglican Church Grammar 1912 38
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