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QLD GPS Rugby 2012

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I phrased that badly. I don't think a BGS victory is incredibly likely, just that an injury to Third would undoubtedly help their chances. I think that it'll be an evenly contested match, and I'd be looking to see who comes our fit and firing in the first 15 minutes, because the team that wants it more will likely come away the victor.

I heard that Third was out due to a severe cut to his face......over 20 stiches so I doubt he will be back after just 2 weeks.
 
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Thoughts on IGS being made the bye round in favour of Downlands simply because they can't field enough teams each week? Except in Opens, Ipswich have repeatedly been producing low quality and low quantity underage teams. I think it's about time that someone made the decision to swap them with Downlands as the boys up the range are being much more competitive at the moment.
 
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. I think that it'll be an evenly contested match, and I'd be looking to see who comes our fit and firing in the first 15 minutes, because the team that wants it more will likely come away the victor.[/quote]
Agreed a positive start is critical. Just remember BGS have also come from behind in final minutes to beat BBC and Churchie in past few weeks. Never say die attitude a real plus. TSS will need to play great footy for 70 mins if they want the chocolates!
 
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Thoughts on IGS being made the bye round in favour of Downlands simply because they can't field enough teams each week? Except in Opens, Ipswich have repeatedly been producing low quality and low quantity underage teams. I think it's about time that someone made the decision to swap them with Downlands as the boys up the range are being much more competitive at the moment.

Agreed. You've got to be able to pack a scrum to be considered a rugby side. Downlands show great commitment to the game and are always up for the contest.
 

Hairy Test Eagle

Ward Prentice (10)
Agreed. You've got to be able to pack a scrum to be considered a rugby side. Downlands show great commitment to the game and are always up for the contest.
I completely agree with both of you but it's so unlikely. It would be so hard to break tradition for the GPS body, and the uproar that you would get from IGS and their old boys would be phenomenal.
 

The Rig

Frank Row (1)
Grammar have been incredibly lucky this year, and if their stretch of good fortune continues I foresee them pulling off some very special things over the next few weeks. All I can say, is that the whole team is based around Greene and to a lesser extent Cornelson. If either of those players go down, Grammar is up the creek. Without Greene, Grammar instantly lose a 9-12 point head start and any sense of attacking direction in the backline. It is a miracle that he has remained healthy over 5 games. A credit to him for leading from the front, especially against Churchie where he copped a fair amount of banter from the rival crowd. If the stars align injury wise, and BGS string together a few more strong performances, I see no reason why they can't go all the way. Very exciting time to be at the Grammar school.
 
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I completely agree with both of you but it's so unlikely. It would be so hard to break tradition for the GPS body, and the uproar that you would get from IGS and their old boys would be phenomenal.
Agreed but IGS must aim to field at least 5xA grade sides on the paddock each week with the understanding that contestable scrums are an integral part of the game. It's not like they don't have some big kids at the school. Is it possible that Downlands be admitted to the GPS rugby comp...can only be good for the development of the game?
 

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Stan Wickham (3)
Thoughts on IGS being made the bye round in favour of Downlands simply because they can't field enough teams each week? Except in Opens, Ipswich have repeatedly been producing low quality and low quantity underage teams. I think it's about time that someone made the decision to swap them with Downlands as the boys up the range are being much more competitive at the moment.

Agreed, would just make sense to add them as another team in the competition, would fit into the draw no worries with the new system. Plenty of talent and passion there, but Downlands would have to put a bit of money into their rugby program and revamp it as TGS have done. After TGS's 2010 season of the 1st XV not winning a rugby game Jason Gilmore was employed and has turned things around providing scolarships to selected boys, and a proffesional rugby program accross the board resulting in the boys being up the top of the ladder, and possibly joint leaders this season.
 
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Agreed but IGS must aim to field at least 5xA grade sides on the paddock each week with the understanding that contestable scrums are an integral part of the game. It's not like they don't have some big kids at the school. Is it possible that Downlands be admitted to the GPS rugby comp.can only be good for the development of the game?

I'm sick of seeing 'know it alls' on this forum who literally don't even know the GPS Rules. The GPS rules state that a school must commit 2 (two) teams per age group to play in an A and B competition respectively. All the schools, yes including IGS have complied with this rule in 2012. Don't even begin to talk about the quality of IGS rugby as their 1st XV are showing successful season so far amongst the other age groups.

As for the 9 teams that were fielded on the weekend, you are forgetting that ipswich only have a school of 750 students so there is only a small catchment. The u15 age group had 8 players out due to met west rugby commitments. Losing 8 of the best players in the team is a hard thing to do, you cannot argue against that fact. Both IGS and NC agreed to play this game at a later date as half of both their teams were missing to rep rugby.

To be in the GPS system is not a right but more of a privelidge and to do so, the schools in the system have to abide by the laws. Some of the laws state that an imported player can not only be at the school for their senior year. I'd say congratulations to the schools this year for actually putting their imports in year 11.

Is there any more hate against schools who abide by the rules ?

How you can even claim IGS shouldn't be part of the GPS comp is just immature and you are overseeing the fact that this is just rugby. I hate it when posters get psyatract from rugby on the forum but you have to look at the other things that involve a school. The school has maintained successful at all the sports: volleyball (4th) cricket (5th), soccer (4th), tennis (2nd), while having two possible tied premierships for both rugby and basketball. In cross country IGS were 5th and 4th in swimming. And yet again as track and field creeps closer to the season, IGS has a solid chance of winning yet another premiership.

To the people who claim IGS should not be in the GPS competition, you should probably take a glance back at your population and it's achievements. Pound for Pound, IGS is without a doubt the best sporting GPS school.
 

mbw

Allen Oxlade (6)
TSS v BGS will be a very good contest. Grammar will be extremely well coached and prepared but so will Southport. TSS as a team have made steady improvement all year and have a couple of players who have made big improvement during the season. TSS have molded into a good team without any one player that their game revolves around. TSS have some depth if anyone gets injured. Gibson who replaced Third for the last 2 weeks can play anywhere in the backs very well and will not let them down if needed and there are a couple of forwards that if required will be capable of performing to that level. Greene's boot is an advantage but if Third plays his kicking will assist Southport. The game will probably come come down to ball control and not conceding penalties.
 

The Rig

Frank Row (1)
I'm sick of seeing 'know it alls' on this forum who literally don't even know the GPS Rules. The GPS rules state that a school must commit 2 (two) teams per age group to play in an A and B competition respectively. All the schools, yes including IGS have complied with this rule in 2012. Don't even begin to talk about the quality of IGS rugby as their 1st XV are showing successful season so far amongst the other age groups.

As for the 9 teams that were fielded on the weekend, you are forgetting that ipswich only have a school of 750 students so there is only a small catchment. The u15 age group had 8 players out due to met west rugby commitments. Losing 8 of the best players in the team is a hard thing to do, you cannot argue against that fact. Both IGS and NC agreed to play this game at a later date as half of both their teams were missing to rep rugby.

To be in the GPS system is not a right but more of a privelidge and to do so, the schools in the system have to abide by the laws. Some of the laws state that an imported player can not only be at the school for their senior year. I'd say congratulations to the schools this year for actually putting their imports in year 11.

Is there any more hate against schools who abide by the rules ?

How you can even claim IGS shouldn't be part of the GPS comp is just immature and you are overseeing the fact that this is just rugby. I hate it when posters get psyatract from rugby on the forum but you have to look at the other things that involve a school. The school has maintained successful at all the sports: volleyball (4th) cricket (5th), soccer (4th), tennis (2nd), while having two possible tied premierships for both rugby and basketball. In cross country IGS were 5th and 4th in swimming. And yet again as track and field creeps closer to the season, IGS has a solid chance of winning yet another premiership.

To the people who claim IGS should not be in the GPS competition, you should probably take a glance back at your population and it's achievements. Pound for Pound, IGS is without a doubt the best sporting GPS school.

GPSPRIDE, are you saying that just because Ipswich only have 750 students that they should be let "off the hook"? My view is that because the GPS rugby competition is the premier schoolboy rugby comp, they should be meeting the expectations of the other 8 schools. THAT MEANS fielding underage teams for every fixture that can scrum competitively. If Ipswich want to play with the big boys, they better get their act together.
 
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tightfive

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GPSPRIDE, are you saying that just because Ipswich only have 750 students that they should be let "off the hook"? My view is that because the GPS rugby competition is the premier schoolboy rugby comp, they should be meeting the expectations of the other 8 schools. THAT MEANS fielding underage teams for every fixture that can scrum competitively. If Ipswich want to play with the big boys, they better get their act together.

Interesting GPSPRIDE uses the expression 'pound for pound' in signing off - plenty of smaller kids packing down in contested scrums throughout the GPS competition. What about the hours these students spend packing scrums at training preparing for big opposition. Seems like IGS have given it up as a waste of time. Scrummaging isn't just about size it's about technique and grit. Sorry - buy Ippy will continue to cop flack if they continue to call uncontested scrums at A grade level. It's Rugby Union - not League lads.
 
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GPSPRIDE, are you saying that just because Ipswich only have 750 students that they should be let "off the hook"? My view is that because the GPS rugby competition is the premier schoolboy rugby comp, they should be meeting the expectations of the other 8 schools. THAT MEANS fielding underage teams for every fixture that can scrum competitively. If Ipswich want to play with the big boys, they better get their act together.

Year 7's are given the chance to play in the u13 comp because as the school motto states 'every boy, every chance, every day'. If they have the ability to play, then why not let them ?Sorry when does IGS call uncontested ? apart from when 4 of their props were injured in the GT game. They may have been an occasional game or two where there have been injuries or illnes but I don't see your point.. They do technically make the requirments of a GPS school so your point is invalid. Obviously their act is together because by the results I has previously listed, they are beating most GPS schools in any given sport. Even the so far success of the 1ST XV is an accomplishment itself seeing as none of the players are 'imports', where as many of the other GPS teams, even the one opposing importing last year has caved.
 
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tightfive

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Didn't pack 1 contested scrum v BGS in either U16 game this year - will 1st XV scrums be uncontested next year?
 
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_dark

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I'm sick of seeing 'know it alls' on this forum who literally don't even know the GPS Rules. The GPS rules state that a school must commit 2 (two) teams per age group to play in an A and B competition respectively. All the schools, yes including IGS have complied with this rule in 2012. Don't even begin to talk about the quality of IGS rugby as their 1st XV are showing successful season so far amongst the other age groups.

IGS did not field an U16B team through several fixtures throughout this year, I am quite confident. So if your GPS rule of 2 teams per age group in the A and B competition is legitimate, IGS just broke a GPS rule.
 

Corne Uyc

Chris McKivat (8)
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I'm sick of seeing 'know it alls' on this forum who literally don't even know the GPS Rules. The GPS rules state that a school must commit 2 (two) teams per age group to play in an A and B competition respectively. All the schools, yes including IGS have complied with this rule in 2012. Don't even begin to talk about the quality of IGS rugby as their 1st XV are showing successful season so far amongst the other age groups.

As for the 9 teams that were fielded on the weekend, you are forgetting that ipswich only have a school of 750 students so there is only a small catchment. The u15 age group had 8 players out due to met west rugby commitments. Losing 8 of the best players in the team is a hard thing to do, you cannot argue against that fact. Both IGS and NC agreed to play this game at a later date as half of both their teams were missing to rep rugby.

To be in the GPS system is not a right but more of a privelidge and to do so, the schools in the system have to abide by the laws. Some of the laws state that an imported player can not only be at the school for their senior year. I'd say congratulations to the schools this year for actually putting their imports in year 11.

Is there any more hate against schools who abide by the rules ?

How you can even claim IGS shouldn't be part of the GPS comp is just immature and you are overseeing the fact that this is just rugby. I hate it when posters get psyatract from rugby on the forum but you have to look at the other things that involve a school. The school has maintained successful at all the sports: volleyball (4th) cricket (5th), soccer (4th), tennis (2nd), while having two possible tied premierships for both rugby and basketball. In cross country IGS were 5th and 4th in swimming. And yet again as track and field creeps closer to the season, IGS has a solid chance of winning yet another premiership.

To the people who claim IGS should not be in the GPS competition, you should probably take a glance back at your population and it's achievements. Pound for Pound, IGS is without a doubt the best sporting GPS school.


Well said. Calling for IGS to be outed is a bit rich. Sure they are having difficulty at the moment in rugby but they don't deserve to even be considered. BSHS went through far more leaner years in the past and have come through. Facts are, with all the years of tradition no one will be ousted from the GPS. Downlands do look like a perfect fit - but for rugby only. I'm not sure on their sports program but would they be able to compete in other sports as well apart from Rugby? Ashgrove has been mentioned before and despite their complete dominance of the AIC for years, there is no chance there of a promotion.
As you say, and having not known the stats, but IGS are performing very well across the board.
 
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Coastboy

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I'm sick of seeing 'know it alls' on this forum who literally don't even know the GPS Rules. The GPS rules state that a school must commit 2 (two) teams per age group to play in an A and B competition respectively. All the schools, yes including IGS have complied with this rule in 2012. Don't even begin to talk about the quality of IGS rugby as their 1st XV are showing successful season so far amongst the other age groups.

As for the 9 teams that were fielded on the weekend, you are forgetting that ipswich only have a school of 750 students so there is only a small catchment. The u15 age group had 8 players out due to met west rugby commitments. Losing 8 of the best players in the team is a hard thing to do, you cannot argue against that fact. Both IGS and NC agreed to play this game at a later date as half of both their teams were missing to rep rugby.

To be in the GPS system is not a right but more of a privelidge and to do so, the schools in the system have to abide by the laws. Some of the laws state that an imported player can not only be at the school for their senior year. I'd say congratulations to the schools this year for actually putting their imports in year 11.

Is there any more hate against schools who abide by the rules ?

How you can even claim IGS shouldn't be part of the GPS comp is just immature and you are overseeing the fact that this is just rugby. I hate it when posters get psyatract from rugby on the forum but you have to look at the other things that involve a school. The school has maintained successful at all the sports: volleyball (4th) cricket (5th), soccer (4th), tennis (2nd), while having two possible tied premierships for both rugby and basketball. In cross country IGS were 5th and 4th in swimming. And yet again as track and field creeps closer to the season, IGS has a solid chance of winning yet another premiership.

To the people who claim IGS should not be in the GPS competition, you should probably take a glance back at your population and it's achievements. Pound for Pound, IGS is without a doubt the best sporting GPS school.
Not sure about best sporting school pound for pound TSS has 800 students came 1st in GPS Football, 2nd in GPS Swimming, 2nd GPS Cricket, On track to win GPS Basketball and in with a shout of winning GPS rugby, however i will concede that our Athletics program is very poor and I'm not sure what we came in Cross country
 
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