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QLD Colts - 2016

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The sage

Vay Wilson (31)
MINOR SEMI-FINAL
BROTHERS v UQ
The Battle of The Team of Champions verses a Champion Team??
I must admit that earlier on in the season I thought UQ would be the team to beat for the Premiership: the cattle on the field, the reserve cattle, The Bloody Academy and even the kitchen sink. But this match was there Waterloo. All the positives like their structure, their line-out height advantage and even their hands in broken play let them down. Instead there was 2 obstruction calls, 4 losses in the line-out (out of 10 attempts) and dropped ball during critical broken play possession. Not that they were the only culprits. Brothers also made a lot of turnovers: 15 in fact during the game and mostly from dropped ball.
The game in general was played at a phonetic pace and there was plenty of counter-attacking, particularly from UQ, which emanated from deep within their own half. However on at least 3 occasions where a try was begging for them the last pass always seemed to go to ground. Hence the feeling from the Brothers camp, that they were never out of it until midway through the second half. Line speed from Brothers in defense was good for the whole game and this may have been a decisive factor in why not too many set play breaks were made by UQ.
The games opening try came from a set piece with a dynamic and hard run from Tony Hunt which he willed his way over the line with 3 defenders attached; a powerful and determined run. The try was converted to give a score of 7-0 UQ's way. The next two tries went to Brothers, the first was a general play movement with a great effort by Brothers #11 to fend off the high UQ defense and score. The second was a wonderful team try and the movement involved their #5, #7 and #1 who scored wide out. Half time 12-7 to Brothers.​
The second half started much as the first half with plenty of attacking opportunities for UQ after a couple of penalties and heaps of possession early on. But time and again Brothers repelled the attack and for the third time in the game were held up over the line. In the ensuing attack they were not able to hold onto the ball and Brothers made a relieving kick. The line-out saw a crooked throw and Brothers had the ball, but only briefly. From the line-out UQ had their chance but a game changing tackle by Brothers #10 stopped the attack and from the ensuing ball an intercept try was accepted by a fleet foot #15 (if rugby is played in heaven, then god himself orchestrated that tackle). THIS WAS THE TURNING POINT OF THE GAME. Brothers up 17-7.​
From that point on wards Brothers seemed to have the run of the ball and they were becoming the broken play specialists in the game. After a cynical foul (yellow card #4?) Brothers decided to take a scrum 10 m from the line. With a simple move to the left the #11 scored again in the corner, breaking though flimsy defense. 22-7 to Brothers.​
UQ had there opportunities from Brothers errors and a few penalties, however there play in attack, was pedestrian and easy for the Brothers defense to read. The relieving penalty and subsequent play was all one way traffic with wave after wave of attack; Uni holding on by the skin of their teeth. UQ was unable to get out of their half effectively and a further line-out error allowed Brothers to attack. This lead to another try, after a scrum (after Brothers were held up over the line), with a wrap around move in which the #9 scored in the corner. Conversion successful Brothers lead 29-7. UQ had some further chances but the Brothers defense and another poor UQ line-out throws lead to turn-overs. The final try was another wonderful team effort from halfway: again the #5, #1 and #7 involved. This lead to a pass to the #11 for his third try.​
Final Score Brothers 34 UQ 7.​
TURNING POINTS
Brothers defense in the final 5 minutes of the first half where they held-up UQ twice. The "flat track bullies" were not getting their own way today.
That tackle #10 and the subsequent #15 intercept try.
Other Notes
Scrums were fairly even with no tight heads and only 13 in the match. A big congratulations to the Ref for this; he played the advantage well and in some instance where he may have given a penalty (in the case of the held up tries and maul/rucks close to the line) he instead opted for a scrum to the attacking team. A BIG TICK TO HIM. Penalties were 7-6 in favour of UQ.
Line-outs were won convincingly by Brothers with only 1 loss from 11, whist UQ lost 4 from 10. The general kicking of the Brothers #10 and #15 was outstanding all day, and keep the UQ momentum at bay.
Wish James McMillian a speedy recovery after a knee injury forced him from the field in the first half.​
Beat For Brothers: 1, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11 (3 meatpies!) and 15
For UQ: 4, 9, 12 and 15
A good game of rugby, despite the turnover rate from both teams. A well deserved win by Brothers who now face Bond Uni in the Preliminary Finals.
 

The sage

Vay Wilson (31)
I think if Brothers can reduce turn-overs (15 in the Semi) they will be hard to beat. This comes back to respect for the ball. Brothers have over the last 5 weeks improved as a team markedly.
  • The forwards that were not fit enough are now gaining their fitness. Good effort guys.
  • They were a team that used to, when they made errors (earlier in the season), would tend to say "Bugger" and watch as the other team ran away. Now if someone makes an error they make sure as heck that they ensure no real advantage flows to the opposition from broken play. A great change of attitude.
  • The coaching staff are making subtle changes and not wholesale one, which is no longer stifling momentum.
  • Wrong options taken we not followed through. Now if a wrong option is taken, then the player will back themselves 100%, usually with support up his arse.
  • Their discipline has returned at the right time of the season. Discipline is a must in Finals footy.
  • Instead of individuals running and dying with the ball, they are making the advantage line and making sensible passes. In general the support of running players has increased.
  • The general kicking and clearing of their 22 m has been very good.
There still needs to be respect for the ball and also clear calling for the kick offs received. There were 3 errors on the weekend from kick-off receptions, not good enough. All in all a great improvement by the players and coaches.
 

The sage

Vay Wilson (31)
O'k after the weekend I have some updated thoughts on the Premier North (Union) play list:

Premier North Colts

(1) Harry Hoopert - Brothers
(2) Effie Maafu - Wests
(3) Laterell Soli - Brothers
(4) Harry Hocking - UQ
(5) Emmanuel Meafou - Brothers
(6) Jackson Evans - Brothers
(7) Tom Zappala - Brothers
(8) Rhys Martin - Brothers
(9) Jac Van Eeden - Wests
(10) Liam Richman - Brothers
(11) Lorenzo Skelton - Brothers
(12) Tony Hunt - UQ
(13) Kailab Conventry - Brothers
(14) Braiden Oates - UQ
(15) Chris Morgan - Brothers

(16)
(17) Robby MaCaffrey - Brothers
(18) Will Wilson - Brothers
(19) Castlyn Dewet - Wests
(20) Jodan Lenac - UQ
(21) Joshua Fernandez - Wests
(22) Kalala Meni - UQ
(23) Cliton Setu - UQ

Think I still need a few more. Found it hard to find a # 13 (with Kailab being a natural wing) and a reserve Prop. Also found it hard to leave out Reuben Wall out of the 23.

I'll remind all that this is only an opinion and I will preface the above as I haven't seen GPS and Norths play. Also the next game or two will either frank the above or leave it with question marks.
 

The sage

Vay Wilson (31)
Earlier from Breakdown:
South
1. Braden Schiller
2. Johann Koorts
3. Gavin Luka
4. Ben Grant
5. Zac Shepherd
6. Emasi Ganita
7. Jack Farrell
8. Tuaina Tualima
9. Harry Nucifora
10. Liam McNamara
11. Jezzy Ioane
12. Hamish Stewart
13. Dylan Riley
14. Hayden Sargent
15. Jayden Ngamanu
16. Eli Fakailoatonga
17. James Gall
18. Joel Kuchel
19. Callum Ball
20. Jamison Quirk
21. Rodney Pita
22. Tyrone Southorn
23. Josh Coward
 

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Nev Cottrell (35)
Callum Ball and Jamison Quirk would be in my starting pack 5 & 7/8 respectively. Not sure wether Tuaina T would be eligible if he has not played Colts this season?


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Nev Cottrell (35)
Will be interesting to see who gets pick where. For me it would be a difficult task as there is some good individual talent in all positions running around the paddock at the moment.
No news yet on whether they are or aren't continuing with the North - Souths Colts?


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The sage

Vay Wilson (31)
Will be interesting to see who gets pick where. For me it would be a difficult task as there is some good individual talent in all positions running around the paddock at the moment.
No news yet on whether they are or aren't continuing with the North - Souths Colts?


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I have no idea....have to wait n see. But it is a good concept. A good way to have a game selection process for the qld u20 with small costs.
 

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Nev Cottrell (35)
Yeah it is, was reading some posts in the u20 World Cup 2017 forum and they pasted a pathway that includes NRC u19, interesting..... The development of junior rugby needs some sort of intro into senior level to get youngsters ready for the u20 rugby level, whether it be u19 NRC or NRC game time. Northern countries have just about picked their teams for next year. The physicality and size of these boys above their Aus counterparts.


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The sage

Vay Wilson (31)
Just watched the first half of Bond v The Bank. Impressed with Banks forwards, particularly the #6 & #8. Liked the #10 as well. Bond were unlucky a few times and The Bank were offside a few times.

Isn't that Hamish Stewart a tough rooster; he got smashed a couple of times and bounced straight up. You did miss ur #13 though; had a great opportunity to score early on down the short side.


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Vay Wilson (31)
Earlier from Breakdown:
South
1. Braden Schiller
2. Johann Koorts
3. Gavin Luka
4. Ben Grant
5. Zac Shepherd
6. Emasi Ganita
7. Jack Farrell
8. Tuaina Tualima
9. Harry Nucifora
10. Liam McNamara
11. Jezzy Ioane
12. Hamish Stewart
13. Dylan Riley
14. Hayden Sargent
15. Jayden Ngamanu
16. Eli Fakailoatonga
17. James Gall
18. Joel Kuchel
19. Callum Ball
20. Jamison Quirk
21. Rodney Pita
22. Tyrone Southorn
23. Josh Coward

Wouldn't discount The Banks tight 5 too much.


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Nev Cottrell (35)
Was hoping to gauge the sentiments of the regulars but here goes anyway.

Brothers have had a good run of late winning 3 of their last five games losing by a narrow margin to Bond and Souths. Last weeks game against UQ they did have the phycological advantage of having beating UQ in both round games.
Bond have only lost the one game in their last 5, last week in their semi final clash, and although it was not a high scoring game and with a few key players missing (no excuse), I think Sunnybank deserved to win.

Even though some key players may still be out, I will tip with my heart rather than my head.
Bond by 10.
Good luck boys and may the best team win.


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The sage

Vay Wilson (31)
Finished watching the second half of the Bond v Bank game and I do agree that The Bank more than deserved to win the game. In the second half they bombed 2 tries to Bonds 1. Tries need to be scored in semi's.

Thought Bond were a little directionless in attack, which was unusual for them, and there were strings of individual running rather than running as a team. Their urgency at the ball was not as good as it is usually, bit of "rabbits in the headlights".....probably a big stage factor. Also thought that The Bank were offside a bit of the time and weren't pulled up very often. This may have added to the pressure for Bond.
 

The sage

Vay Wilson (31)
The Semi Finals

Going to be a lot of "if" in this, but last week I said that performance on the day is critical, and that's probably a function of how happy the players are as a team. This in combination of discipline and injury are important.

From my whispers it sounds like Brothers have an "all clear" on the injury front; still have some niggles but good to go.

The Preliminary Final

Bond v Brothers

Bond are the minor premiers and deservedly so. However last week against The Bank I feel they got a little lost in their direction; this of course was added by a Bank team that wanted to win and assume control over the season (I take back what I said last week). However both teams need to do more. Even if the injured two stars return their still must be a small doubt over their ability to reach the pinnacle of their playing ability; and playing them, itself forms a risk to Bond's game, particularly at critical moments in the match.

The Bond forwards were adequate, not there usual best and line-outs and their scrum lacked it's usual cohesion. The delivery to the backs was adequate however the running was one-out and moments where they should have scored they didn't. And that worries me. I feel if they dominate the line-outs then this will go a long way towards their success.

Brothers on the other hand had a good hit-out and for a good chunk of the second half dominated UQ. But it was far from perfect. The kick-off receipts were at best poor, with 3 out the 6 dropped. This needs to improve. Another problem was the turn-over which numbered 15 most of which from dropped ball. The respect thingy again!

That said the scrum looked strong and even dominated without the payout of a tight head. The line-outs were very good with only 1 lost in 11 and very clean ball from the other 10. The forwards are starting to fire and the self belief is now getting near a peak. The combination on the paddock seem confident without being "cocky", a nice place to be.

The half and #10 are working well and the positional kicking, including exiting, is working well. The #15 does a lot of the exiting and his kicking has also been fine. Added to this is a very pacey back line, particularly on the wings where the guys know and love to score. There was a sense of ease last week even when they were under pressure which is sign of maturity under pressure.

I think that the break-down and line-out control will be the key factors in the match. Both teams have backs that on their day can score and score well. If the days of "hot and cold" are gone, and if they play a similar game to last week I think the Brethren can go forward. In light of this, and to even the scoreline a bit I think it's,

Brothers by 11


Yeah good luck to both team and hopefully injury free.
 

phatmik

Herbert Moran (7)
One says BOND, the other says BROTHERS ....... so I'll call a draw and extra time.... nahhh

I picked Sunnybank last week as semi finals are a different beast than the robotic repetition of fixture round footy, as the hurt of losing in finals sticks around a lot longer, than a fixture round which is forgotten after your first burger at the canteen post match.

And thats why I am leaning towards BOND to win.

Someone said that Bond last week looked directionless at times and I agree. Some of the kicking choices were not the best and moreso, the backup and support play of ANY option; be it when I saw the BOND 10 use a 7 iron type kick to the Sunnybank 22m and no one chased to cover, or when I saw Jammo (Bond #8) with that bloody long hair, flying down the far touch line channel constantly looking on the inside for support and couldn't find any.

I reckon BOND have learnt a hell of a lot from that loss on the weekend. So much so if they get their gun players back (which I will reluctantly speak about next), not only do I think BOND will win this weekend but they will win next weekend IF they are relatively injury free.

I said about "reluctantly" speaking about BOND players coming back. One in particular. Reluctantly as I know Dad and Dad knows me and I don't want to place further pressure on the lad or place the mocker on him but last week BOND missed the exciting X Factor that is Dylan Riley. I know Harry Nucifora has to come back according to the BOND website, but this is coming from a person that has watched Dylan play at school, state, national and international level and he IS the X factor that BOND need and that Brothers don't want to see arrive.

Dylans electric pace, his ability to sight a gap no matter how small and using his elusiveness, is able to fly through and take advantage of anything left open is amazing. Sunnybank played it relatively tight which did not suit the BOND defensive patterns of not seriously contesting the breakdown. Having said that I watched that little 22 from Sunnybank use his pace to cause issues last week but generally BOND played into Sunnybanks forwards hands.The Brothers lads love the kick chase game and love shifting wide at any opportunity and I think that style of match will suit BOND a lot better.

This match will be close. BOND are now coming into the weekend playing an opponent that is high on confidence but sore. All it takes is the rub of the green with a refs call, something just not right on the day to turn this game on it's head.

I think pace, exciting and exhubrant enthusiasm and a sheer enjoyment to play and let the score look after itself will be the key for BOND.

Will be a match and half on Sunday. Well played Catholics! BOND by 3

By the way, when does the ceremonial handing over the cellar door keys ceremony take place.......... (now that they arent being passed onto me)

Enjoy your footy this weekend lads wherever you're heading and if it is to Ballymore, BYO food..... lots and lots of food as you'll need the savings that you made to be able to afford to buy a can of beer.
 

NCWK

Allen Oxlade (6)
Good Morning all, beautiful day that it is and another great weekend that it promises to be...school, club and super rugby...(small, excited hand claps).

I'm going to go with the brethren this weekend on the premise that 9 and 13 aren't available.

From what is said Bond froze last weekend and S'bank just imposed themselves more to the point of stopping them play the game that has served them so well in the regular season. I'll go with Brothers with the momentum by 7.
 
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