NSW Schools - Trial Games and Selections 2016

[Rick Somerton]

Thanks

 

[Dingasden]

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Am I reading this correcly?
CCC get 3 games and GPS 1?

 

[Huly]

I believe that isn't the full draw. It only shows the matches on the days where NSWCHS are involved.

Assuming tradition, GPS would have a mid-week game against CAS sometime before the CHS vs GPS game.

A GPS vs ISA game would be fantastic though.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Pretty sure this year all Association Teams only get two Official NSWSRU U18 Selection Trials. Any other games played are either "Affiliates fixtures", or Association fixtures.

The CHSSA Representative fixtures does not include the traditional AAGPS v CAS I & II fixture, which has been listed on other sites.

The "loss" this year is the CHS v CAS fixture. CHS traditionally played all other associations 1st XV less AICES who played CHS II, and therefore were a limited but useful control to compare the relative strengths of the Associations that didn't play each other.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

No breakdown as to 1st XV or 2nd XV yet.

2016 NSW CHS Opens 1st and 2nd XV Squad

NSW CHS 1st XV
1. Dan MATTHEW (Kariong Mountains HS) [D. MATTHEWS in the paper]
2. Jacob BRISTOW (Westfields SHS) (2015 CHS II Hooker) [Not sure if BRISTOWE or BRISTOW]
3. David TIFFA (Westfields SHS)
4. Tom BADGER (Barrenjoey HS)
5. Nick BRACKEN (Lisarow HS)
6. Edward FRY (NBSC Freshwater College)
7. Harry TURNER (Epping BHS)
8. Ben GLEESON (NBSC Cromer Campus)
9. Terry FANALUA (Westfields SHS)
10. Kieran HAYMAN (Hills SHS)
11. Mikey PITA (Leumeah HS)
12. Zac TUALA (Hills SHS)
13. Charles SHEPHERD (Asquith HS)
14. Tre FINAU (Westfields SHS)
15. Netane MASIMA (Westfields SHS - 2015 Leumeah High School) (2015 CHS II & Combined States Flyhalf)

Manager: Mr Craig SMAILES Callaghan College Wallsend Campus
Coach: Mr Mark O'BRIEN Callaghan College Wallsend Campus
Assistant Coach: Andrew FITZGERALD The Ponds HS


NSW CHS 2nd XV
1. Dylan VALENI (Westfields SHS)
2. Tametai LOMAX (Glenwood HS)
3. John WESLEY (Westfields SHS)
4. Brandon KEMP (Cronulla HS)
5. Travis GIFFORD (Alstonville HS)
6. Pinimapa TUITUPOU (Hills SHS)
7. Finn HEATH (Barrenjoey HS)
8. Matt FISK (Brisbane Waters SC) (2015 CHS 1 Lock)
9. Ben HARDING (Brisbane Waters SC)
10. Billy CARBERRY (Mudgee HS)
11. Saose MAFI (Hills SHS)
12. Vai TAPA (Hills SHS)
13. Raka PARUI (Sarah Redfern HS)
14. Mole FALETTI (Westfields SHS) (FILETI in the paper)
15. Daniel BELL (Port Hacking HS)

16. Duncan RYAN (Hills SHS)
17. Maylee SENU (Ashfield HS)
18. Aistan FIDOW (Griffith HS) (2015 CHS 1 Prop)
19. Joel DIVERTE (Westfields SHS)
20. Davis HARRARA (Merewether)
21. Ben LEWIS (Endeavour SHS) (School was reported as Menai in the paper)
22. Zach STEWART ((Francis Greenway HS) (School was reported as Endeavour in the paper)
23. Ryan DONNELLY ( Henry Kendall HS) (From Shadow squad)

Manager: Stephen SERGEANT Wagga Wagga HS
Coach: Craig HOWE Grafton HS
Assistant Coach: Chris MEISER Illawarra SHS

Named in the squad in the Paper but possibly Team Rehab for the CHS v CCC fixture.
G. ANDERSON (Francis Greenway)



Congratulations to these folk. Stay fit, train hard and listen to your coaches.


From The Terrograph, 23 May 2016 Page 47

Edit: Team Breakdown from the fixture against CCC. First names and coaching staff added. Thanks to @Dingasden

 

[Eyes and Ears]

GPS v CAS at Shore 21 June. Games at 12.30, 1.45 and 3pm.

 

[couldabeen]

AICES teams were selected yesterday. Kids from all around the state. It is always a big challenge for AICES to compete, lots of reasons but no excuses! We will be there planning to punch above our weight.

 

[Armchair Selector]

AICES teams were selected yesterday. Kids from all around the state.

Congratulations to all players selected.

Do you know where to find the teams lists? Nothing on AICES website.

 

[Armchair Selector]

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AICES teams were selected yesterday. Kids from all around the state.​

Congratulations to all players selected.

Do you know where to find the teams lists? Nothing on AICES website.​

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Found it on the AICES thread

Opens
William Buster ~ Calrossy AS
Charles Meyers ~ Calrossy AS
Tyler Sinhouser ~ Calrossy AS
David Hines ~ Calrossy AS
Lochie Urquhart ~ Carinya CS
Aetai Mertez ~ Emanuel School
Josh Nercessian ~ Green Point CC
Ben Shelley ~ Green Point CC
James Starkey ~ Hunter Valley GS
Liam Kelly ~ Hunter Valley GS
Jacob Till ~ Inaburra
Giordan Patea ~ Macarthur AC
Robert Afele ~ Mountain View AC
Jesse Heslehurst ~ Nowra AC
Aron Peters ~ Parkes CS
Jacob Van Dyke ~ Pittwater House
James Flaherty ~ Reddam
Nathan Vougdis ~ Reddam
Bai Rabuku ~ Regents Park CS
Lealofisa Papaliitele ~ Richard Johnson AS
Benjamin Meyer ~ Rouse Hill
Ruben Vermaak ~ Shellharbour
Cam Pitts ~ St Lukes GS

Under 16's
Riley Catts ~ Calrossy AS
AJ Pretorius ~ Calrossy AS
Sam Gray ~ Calrossy AS
Ben Grant ~ Calrossy AS
Sam Buster ~ Calrossy AS
Jake Urquhart ~ Carinya CS
Ben Francis ~ Green Point CC
Mackenzie Kay ~ Green Point CC
Liam Vanezis ~ Green Point CC
Ethan Hennessey ~ Illawarra GS
Joshua Fullerton-Harvey ~ Illawarra GS
Jahmeric Afele ~ Mountain View AC
Keiran Fallon ~ Newcastle GS
Aidan Wearne ~ Nowra AC
Tasman Leach ~ Nowra AC
Jackson Forde ~ Nowra AC
Luke Mounic ~ Nth Coast
Ethan Peters ~ Parkes CS
Kiteao Tima~ Richard Johnson AS
Jacob Barrett ~ St Phillips C
Tareq Hall ~ St Phillips PS
Daniel Darwall ~ William Clarke
Louis Potter ~ William Clarke

 

[couldabeen]

No breakdown as to 1st XV or 2nd XV yet.

2016 NSW CHS Opens 1st and 2nd XV Squad

T. GIFFORD (Alstonville)
M. SENU (Ashfield)
C. SHEPHERD (Asquith)
T. BADGER (Barrenjoey)
F. HEATH (Barrenjoey)
Matt FISK (Brisbane Waters SC) (2015 CHS 1 Lock)
B. HARDING (Brisbane Waters SC )
B. KEMP (Cronulla)
Z. STEWART (Endeavour)
H. TURNER (Epping)
G. ANDERSON (Francis Greenway)
T. LOMAX (Glenwood)
Aistan FIDOW (Griffith HS) (2015 CHS 1 Prop)
K. HAYMAN (Hills SHS)
Z. TUALA (Hills SHS)
P. TUITUPOU (Hills SHS)
S. MAFI (Hills SHS)
V. TAPA (Hills SHS)
D. RYAN (Hills SHS)
D. MATTHEWS (Kariong Mountains)
M. PITA (Leumeah)
N. BRACKEN (Lisarow)
B. LEWIS (Menai)
D. HARRARA (Merewether)
B. CARBERRY (Mudgee)
B. GLEESON (NBSC Cromer)
E. FRY (NBSC Freshwater)
D. BELL (Port Hacking)
R. POARU (Sarah Redfern) (Possibly Raui POARU (Westfields SHS) (2014 CHS II bench)
Jacob BRISTOWE (Westfields SHS) (2015 CHS II Hooker)
D. TIFFA (Westfields SHS)
T. FANALUA (Westfields SHS)
T. FINAU (Westfields SHS)
N. MASIMA(Westfields SHS) (Possibly Netane MASIMA (Leumeah High School) (2015 CHS II & Combined States Flyhalf)
D. VALENI (Westfields SHS)
J. WESLEY (Westfields SHS)
M. FILETI (Westfields SHS)
J. DIVERTE (Westfields SHS)

Congratulations to these folk. Stay fit, train hard and listen to your coaches.


From The Terrograph, 23 May 2016 Page 47

Here is a thought. If you look at this team list it is mostly Sydney based. Westfield, westfield, westfield and then westfield, with a few others. Actually, overwhelmingly Sydney. AICES has a lot more Country kids, but very few of these get to play Rugby at School, some of them from the country have competitions to compete in. but NB, in this age group there is NO functional south coast competition. They just do not get to play. At the AICES trials no zone had a team of 15. CSSA provided their players over and again to make it a 15 vs 15 competition. Country Schools folded because they decided there were other pathways. Dear poor old Rugby, what will happen to us? The centralization of Rugby at the CAS, GPS, ISA and Sports High is actually killing Rugby in my opinion. I know for fact, and not opinion, that the best players are being hived off to Sydney schools. And whatever happened to the powerhouse of CHS? Why was it that the NASSA component of AICES did not have a team while their man, who should have been busy enlisting and encouraging players is a nominated coach for further promotion? The whole thing is stuffed up beyond telling. Everyone wants to be a champion, who is taking care of Rugby? Last example, St Edmunds destroying the Waratah Shield in their time. Their ego domination made the shield a joke and most/all schools just gave up on it. Rave over.

 

[Dingasden]

Here is a thought. If you look at this team list it is mostly Sydney based. Westfield, westfield, westfield and then westfield, with a few others. Actually, overwhelmingly Sydney. AICES has a lot more Country kids, but very few of these get to play Rugby at School, some of them from the country have competitions to compete in. but NB, in this age group there is NO functional south coast competition. They just do not get to play. At the AICES trials no zone had a team of 15. CSSA provided their players over and again to make it a 15 vs 15 competition. Country Schools folded because they decided there were other pathways. Dear poor old Rugby, what will happen to us? The centralization of Rugby at the CAS, GPS, ISA and Sports High is actually killing Rugby in my opinion. I know for fact, and not opinion, that the best players are being hived off to Sydney schools. And whatever happened to the powerhouse of CHS? Why was it that the NASSA component of AICES did not have a team while their man, who should have been busy enlisting and encouraging players is a nominated coach for further promotion? The whole thing is stuffed up beyond telling. Everyone wants to be a champion, who is taking care of Rugby? Last example, St Edmunds destroying the Waratah Shield in their time. Their ego domination made the shield a joke and most/all schools just gave up on it. Rave over.

I calculate around 40% of CHS squad come from schools outside of Sydney. That's a pretty good representation. Things have certainly changed in the last 20 years with a lot less high schools playing any rugby forcing players to look at private schools that have rugby programs.

 

[Troy Dickson]

How many of these boys selected in NSWPSSA 2010 and 2011 teams playing GPS ?

 

[Huly]

How many of these boys selected in NSWPSSA 2010 and 2011 teams playing GPS ?

2010 (9):

Chris Scott: Riverview 1st XV
James Lynch: Kings 1st XV
Tyrone Taukamo: Newington 1st XV
Bailey Simonsson: Newington 1st XV
Charlie Jeavons-Fellows: Scots 1st XV
Matthew Orpen: Kings 1st XV
Alec Sheldon: Grammar 1st XV
Bayley Kuenzle: Newington 1st XV
Joe Skelly: Kings 1st XV

2011 (4):

Dominic Easy: Riverview 1st XV
Rory Lynch: Newington College 1st XV
Triston Reilly: St Joseph's College 1st XV
Mac Williams: Kings 1st XV

 

[Azzuri]

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2010 (9):

Chris Scott: Riverview 1st XV
James Lynch: Kings 1st XV
Tyrone Taukamo: Newington 1st XV
Bailey Simonsson: Newington 1st XV
Charlie Jeavons-Fellows: Scots 1st XV
Matthew Orpen: Kings 1st XV
Alec Sheldon: Grammar 1st XV
Bayley Kuenzle: Newington 1st XV
Joe Skelly: Kings 1st XV

2011 (4):

Dominic Easy: Riverview 1st XV
Rory Lynch: Newington College 1st XV
Triston Reilly: St Joseph's College 1st XV
Mac Williams: Kings 1st XV

To complete the picture regarding representative/performance consistency over time I wonder what the list would look like if you included current GPS First XV players who have appeared in 2014 or 2015 GPS Presidents, 2014 and/or 2015 15 U16 NSW Schools and 2014 15 and/or GPS reps.

 

[OAUI]

2010 (9):

Chris Scott: Riverview 1st XV
James Lynch: Kings 1st XV
Tyrone Taukamo: Newington 1st XV
Bailey Simonsson: Newington 1st XV
Charlie Jeavons-Fellows: Scots 1st XV
Matthew Orpen: Kings 1st XV
Alec Sheldon: Grammar 1st XV
Bayley Kuenzle: Newington 1st XV
Joe Skelly: Kings 1st XV

In addition -

James Wayland- Trinity Grammar (Carving it up and certain for CAS 1)
Lucas Choi - Kings (had to cease playing due to severe back injury)
Ben Valu - CCC U16s 2016
Darcy Searl - Cranbrook (In the mix for CAS 1 & 11)
Brad Amituani - Newington (Left school 2014 and was reported in NZ)
Harry Stocks - Knox (In the mix for CAS 1 & 11)
James Armstrong (Strong chance for CAS 1)

N. Brown - Kings 2009 NSW PSSA (I think)

 

[Runpasstackle]

Who cares are we meant to make selections based upon on what kids did at the age of 11 or 12?? Just the same as putting forward selection based on what they did in club land.... Not all kids play in club land. What about country kids who don't get that opportunity

Select on current performance not past reputation

 

[blindsideflanker]

Who cares are we meant to make selections based upon on what kids did at the age of 11 or 12?? Just the same as putting forward selection based on what they did in club land.. Not all kids play in club land. What about country kids who don't get that opportunity

Select on current performance not past reputation

Yes exactly. Couldn't agree more.

 

[Azzuri]

Who cares are we meant to make selections based upon on what kids did at the age of 11 or 12?? Just the same as putting forward selection based on what they did in club land.. Not all kids play in club land. What about country kids who don't get that opportunity

Select on current performance not past reputation

Its actually interesting to see who has continued to perform year in year out.

History, especially recent history of performance is a good base line. Its ludicrous to imply selectors would however base their selectors on past performance alone.

 

[Runpasstackle]

You never get anywhere by looking backwards....