NSW Schools - Trial Games and Selections 2014

[Hugh Jarse]

No berries, just a carrot.

A NSW Schoolboys Jumper coloured carrot.

 

[aka_the_think]

Any speculation on teams? I don't want to go out on a limb and make any claims yet, as all my crystal ball-ing will be made erroneous shortly (when the teams are uploaded).
At this stage, from what I've seen, the following individuals have to be up there, feel free to add players as I haven't watched enough of the tournament to know:

ISA - I will admit to not having watched much of these guys, but from what I know/saw.
James Lough - St. Augustine's
Johnnie Walker - St. Augustine's
The 5/8 from Oakhill.
Whoever played #13.

CAS - Again, I don't know everyone, but I know the following will be good chances:
Nic Burkett - Barker College
Steve Kirkby - Barker College
Hugh Summer-Hayes - Cranbrook
Connor Watson - Knox
Lucas Price - Knox
Lachie Swinton - Knox

GPS - Based a lot on school games and what I saw today.
Angus Crichton - Scots
Theo Strang - Scots
Guy Porter (assuming he's not injured) - Scots
Max Henrie - Scots
Jum Woodhill - Shore
Harry Emery - Shore
Sepesa Loga-Tarogi - Newington
Simon Kennewell - Newington
Vunipola Fifita - Newington
Hosea Fotukava - Riverview
Evan Pritchard - Riverview
Beau Peterson - Riverview
Jack Hayson - Riverview
Jack McGregor - Riverview
Henry Hutchinson - Riverview
Bill Freeman - Riverview
Tom Wright - Joeys
Connor O'Shea - Joeys
Not sure about any Kings' players - I would say Kane but unfortunately he's injured.

Who's the CHS 2nds #8 - he was huge!

 

[Hugh Jarse]

8. Lukhan LEALAIAULOTO-TUI (John Edmondson HS)

I'm pretty sure that the Will Skelton Lookalike from CHS II plays colts 3's for the Hobbits.

A big lad but seems new to rugby. With more time in the game, understanding and developing the more technical aspects, he has the potential to be a very good player.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Results Summary (with Historical Comparison [FWIW])

Sunday 3 June 2014 (3 way round robin - Half games only)
CCC def CHS 2 : 17-5
CHS 1 def CHS 2 : 12-5
CHS 1 def CCC : 17-7 (2013 CHS I 56 CCC 7) [2012 CHS I 34 CCC 3]

Thursday 5 June 2014
CAS II 26 CHS II 26 (2013 CAS II 36 CHS II 26) [2012 CAS II 38 CHS II 10]
CAS I 28 CHS I 19 (2013 CHS I 25 CAS I 10) [2012 CAS I 29 CHS I 0]

Sunday, 15 June 2014
CHS II 55 NSW Cnty 10 (2013 NSW Cnty 25 CHS II 19) [2012 NSW Cnty 24 CHS II 10]
CCC 27 ISA II 24 (2013 ISA II 38 CCC 38) [2012 ISA II 15 CCC 14]
ISA I 41 CHS I 24 (2013 ISA I 43 vs CHS I 22) [2012 CHS I 20 ISA I 19]

Tuesday, 17 June 2014
GPS (White) 17 GPS (Blue) 33
GPS 2 65 CAS 2 17 (2013 GPS II 31 CAS II 0) [2012 GPS II 36 CAS II 25]
GPS 1 36 CAS 1 25 (2013 GPS I 29 CAS I 14) [2012 GPS I 35 CAS I 12]

Friday 20th June 2014
CAS II 38 Country 10 (2013 CAS II 72 AICES 5)[2012 NSW Cnty 64 AICES 5]
GPS (Blue) 31 ISA II 24 (2013 ISA II 31 NSW Cnty 19) [2012 CAS II 29 ISA II 21]
CCC 24 GPS (White) 17 (2013 GPS III 50 CCC 21) [2012 CCC 17 GPS III 14]
ISA I 35 CAS I 33 (2013 CAS I 39 ISA I 12) [2012 CAS I 47 ISA I 7]
GPS II 24 CHS II 7 (2013 GPS II 67 CHS II 0) [2012 GPS II 38 CHS II 7]
GPS I 22 CHS I 20 (2013 GPS I 57 CHS I 5) [2012 GPS I 47 CHS I 3]

 

[Cattledog]

Apparently the NSW Schools website has had a fit. The various conveners have been asked to publish the below as widely as possible. I was forwarded this email last night. However, These teams will be in the papers this morning and all team members have been contacted by phone.

NSW Schools Rugby Union U18 Teams 2014
Attached are the NSW Teams and Shadows for the Australian Schools Championships to be held at St Ignatius College Riverview from the 29 June to 5 July.

Players listed in the NSW 1 and 2s are to attend a medical at the NSW Rugby Union Headquartes Moore on Sunday 22 June at 9:30am.
Shadow players are not required at the medical.
N1
Position, Name, School/Association
1. LHP Phil BRADFORD , Hunter Sports High/CHS
2. H Ed CRAIG , Epping Boys High/CHS
3. THP Vunipola FIFITA , Newington/GPS
4. RL Tobias RUDOLF , The Scots College/GPS
5. LL Tom PIRODDI , Newington/GPS
6. BSF John WALKER , St Augustines/ISA
7. OSF Lachlan ANDERSON , Oakhill College/ISA
8. No 8 Angus CRICHTON , The Scots College/GPS
9. Half Harrison GODDARD , Oakhill/ISA
10. Fly half Connor O’SHEA , St Josephs College/GPS
11. Wing Sepsa TAROGI , Newington/GPS
12. IC Luke LOUGH , St Augustines/ISA
13. OC Henry HUTCHISON , St Ignatius/GPS
14. Wing Connor WATSON , Knox Grammar/CAS
15. FB Guy PORTER , The Scots College/GPS
16. H James WIDDERS-LEECE , Knox Grammar/CAS
17. LHP Hosea FOTUKAVA , St Ignatius/GPS
18. THP Will McRAE , St Augustines/ISA
19. L Andrew VATUVEI , Sarah Redfern High School/CHS
20. BR Hugh SUMMERHAYES , Cranbrook/CAS
21. Half Stephen KIRBY , Barker/CAS
22. IB David SMERDON , Barker/CAS
23. OB Sione AFU , St Augustines/ISA

N2
Position, Name, School/Association
1. LHP Meline LAIMANI , Newington/GPS
2. H Evan PRITCHARD , St Ignatius/GPS
3. THP Jacob SEDGMAN , The Scots College/GPS
4. RL Nathanial GITTOES , St Josephs College/GPS
5. LL Will FINLEY , Lisarow High School/CHS
6. BSF Nick BURKETT , Barker/CAS
7. OSF Dechlan MOORE , St Andrews Cathedral School/ISA
8. No 8 James LOUGH , St Augustines/ISA
9. Half Nick DUFFY , St Josephs College/GPS
10. Fly half James DAY , Oakhill/ISA
11. Wing Billy FREEMAN , St Ignatius/GPS
12. IC Joe WILLIAMS , Knox/CAS
13. OC Simon KENNEWELL , Newington/GPS
14. Wing Tom WRIGHT , St Josephs College/GPS
15. FB Jack McGREGOR , St Ignatius/GPS
16. H Matt SERHON , Newington/GPS
17. LHP Harry JOHNSTON-HOLMES , Merewether High School/CHS
18. THP Francis BROWN , MacKillop/CCC
19. L Beau PETTERSON , St Ignatius/GPS
20. BR Jun WOODHILL , Shore/GPS
21. Half Harry ROWE , Hills Sports High/CHS
22. IB Will McDONALD , St Josephs College/GPS
23. OB Jayden WRIGHT , Hunter Sports High/CHS

Shadows 1
Position, Name, School
1. LHP Jordan LOTOANIU , Bass Hill High
2. H Jake NETTLETON , St Augustines
3. THP Alex MASSIMO , St Gregorys
4. RL Lachlan SWINTON , Knox
5. LL Andrew DAVIES , MMC Warriewood
6. BSF Jack HAYSON , St Ignatius
7. OSF Jake PIERCE , Knox
8. No 8 Brett VAN ZYL , Knox
9. Half Theo STRANG , The Scots College
10. Fly half Sam RENTON , Cranbrook
11. Wing Jordan THOMAS , St Augustines
12. IC Ned YEOMANS , Kinross
13. OC Layton TALI , Hills Sports High
14. Wing Ben FONTAINE , St Augustines
15. FB Kirt ANTHONY , St Edwards Gosford

 

[10to12]

thanks Cattle Dog. Glad I didn't stay up waiting. Looks like some strong teams. Now for an all NSW final

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Once again G&GR breaks the news. Well done @Cattledog. The Emus showing the way.

The Terrorgraph only has the scores from yesterday in its sports section.

@10to12, taking on the Banjolanders will be a real challenge. At the U16's they have had the edge on us for the last couple of years, although this doesn't always translate through to the Opens, where we have the advantage of two years of post U16 players to choose from whereas QLD players usually only have one year of schooling left after they show up at U16's, unless they repeat Y12.

A good omen from last years Nationals was the Final between NSW I and NSW II, so lets hope for a repeat this year.

Congratulations to all the boys selected. It was an absolute belter of a day of footy yesterday, even if it piddled down in the middle of the ISA v CAS game.

Commiserations to the connections of those boys not nominated. This is a pretty strong cohort of boys you are in so there is no disgrace in not being selected.

There is still the Combined States team to be announced on Monday, and I would expect that a fair number of the Shadow boys will get a guernsey in that team. Lastly, Rugby is a cruel and fickle sport, and History tells us that least one boy will not make nationals due to an injury.


For the number spotters:
AAGPS, 23

Newington, 6​

Shore, 2​

St Ignatius, 6​

St Josephs College, 5​

The Scots College, 4​

ISA, 9

Oakhill College, 3​

St Andrews Cathedral School, 1​

St Augustines, 5​

CAS, 7

Barker, 3​

Cranbrook, 1​

Knox Grammar, 3​

CHS, 6

Epping Boys High, 1​

Hunter Sports High, 2​

Lisarow High School, 1​

Merewether High School, 1​

Sarah Redfern High School, 1​

CCC, 1

MacKillop, 1​

​

Edit: Typo in the Selectors list previously circulated has been corrected in the numbers above.

 

[sarcophilus]

Once again G&GR breaks the news. Well done @Cattledog.

@10to12, taking on the Banjolanders will be a real challenge. At the U16's they have had the edge on us for the last couple of years, although this doesn't always translate through to the Opens, where we have the advantage of two years of post U16 players to choose from whereas QLD players usually only have one year of schooling left after they show up at U16's, unless they repeat Y12.

A good omen from last years Nationals was the Final between NSW I and NSW II, so lets hope for a repeat this year.

U16 a poor indicator as the house divided frequently puts the wrong tail on the right dog.

 

[Rugby Mum 2]

Just as an aside, is it surprising that Scots didn't have more selections? Nothing nasty in this comment just saying that they are such a dominant GPS side it really does surprise me.

 

[Peej]

Well deserved by augustines 12 in my opinion. Well rounded player who performed very well throughout the games and in the view v augs game was one of the standouts.

Any substantial height amongst second rowers in this squad? Real opportunities for some timber amongst super rugby squads with Douglas, Pyle leaving and not great amount of quality big men in grade at the moment.

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[random2]

Just as an aside, is it surprising that Scots didn't have more selections? Nothing nasty in this comment just saying that they are such a dominant GPS side it really does surprise me.

I think if Stiles (10) and Smith (8) were not injured they would have been picked, Girdler (6) also picked up an injury yesterday although don't know if that's the reason for his non selection

 

[I like to watch]

Did any kids get selected this year without trialling?

 

[Wood Rat]

selectors have been watching significant and not significant matches all year, each of these will have been a trial. I heard enough poorly advised parents encouraging their progeny to do it themselves to realise the situation manufactured over the last two weeks gives an indication of an ability to perform at a higher level. but seeing a players performance as part of a team may only be gleaned from watching them in different situations.
I have noted some but that wouldn't worry you as they weren't numbered 1-15

 

[Inside Shoulder]

The selectors must have got it pretty right given the muted reaction.

 

[aka_the_think]

The selectors must have got it pretty right given the muted reaction.

To the contrary IS, I think people have succumbed to sheer shock in response to the absolute madness of some of these selections.

I don't want to elaborate.

 

[Whose That Guy]

To the contrary IS, I think people have succumbed to sheer shock in response to the absolute madness of some of these selections.

I don't want to elaborate.

Please elaborate

 

[sarcophilus]

Just as an aside, is it surprising that Scots didn't have more selections? Nothing nasty in this comment just saying that they are such a dominant GPS side it really does surprise me.

Don't tear up your tickets yet IS

If you are working on quotas based on performance/dominance.

CCC maintained their 1 as they have since the mid '80s. there wont be much nurturing of this nursery if they don't get a little more encouragement

looking at the form guides over the past three years, the gap between the associations is nowhere near as pronounced previous two years
CAS and CHS should be disappointed at not having better representation than they have this year.
the CHS II and GPSII was an unremarkable game of football played at a different level to those that book-ended it. If these were the only trials you would not go past the 1sts of either association for selection.

from what I have seen in the paper, entitlement seems to have been dismissed as a concept lately

 

[Cattledog]

Some great rugby at Curragul today in the 16's trials

Pres 1 def Pres 2
ISA def Country
CAS def AICES
CHS def CCC (15 - 5)

However, the last game was the match of the day.

There is massive quality in these two teams.

 

[Brainstrust]

To the contrary IS, I think people have succumbed to sheer shock in response to the absolute madness of some of these selections.

I don't want to elaborate.

Couldn't agree more aka. Some good ones and some that are either highly political, or some that just didn't recognise the ability and efforts of some of the players. There are a number of players that must be surprised by their selection and a few that would be confused by their omission etc. Regardless good luck to both teams.

 

[the baz]

What will be interesting, will be where these guys end up next season. Which clubs will gain the most, where do these players feel they will gain a better crack at higher honors, will some be lost to league, how many clubs will be recruiting at the tournament, and most of all, what will the clubs offer these player to attract them to the respective clubs? only time will tell.