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NSW AAGPS 2025

Meaty Michael

Bob McCowan (2)
A sobering fact...

Sydney Grammar School still has the most International Captains, Wallaby Captains and strongest all-time First XV out of all Australian schools. Not Joeys.

SGS way more greats than SJC, true rugby historians know...

Sydney Grammar All-time 1st XV:
-9 SGS International Captains (7 Wallaby Captains, 1 England, 1 Scotland) vs 3 Joeys International Captains (3 Wallaby Captains)
-100m sprint Olympian Wallaby (!) on Wing (Slip Carr)
-rest all Wallabies (31 total)
-Has Col Windon, Alex Ross, Johnnie Wallace, Alfred Walker and so much more
Who?
 

Mungo1866

Allen Oxlade (6)
There is a wikipedia page with all old Grammar boys who have played high level sports or made other notable achievements. not sure if this exists for other gps schools. The list includes international rugby players and mentions the wallaby captains from the school. Please refer here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Old_Sydneians

Tom
Most of the major (and many of the minor) schools have something similar on Wikipedia, like the GNG forum some school boys like to add some less salubrious names at times so the list are a bit rubbery.
 

John Pork

Frank Row (1)
Sydney Grammar has a wealth of young talent coming through. The Grammar 16As are better than the twos and pretty much on par with the ones. From what I heard, the 16As beat the twos 61-17 in training and lost to the ones 32-30. This just shows the quality of the young ones. Also a little fact for you, this current 16As team is the only team in GPS history to go 3 years undefeated. Watch out in 2027 comp
 

Whales

Frank Row (1)
A sobering fact...

Sydney Grammar School still has the most International Captains, Wallaby Captains and strongest all-time First XV out of all Australian schools. Not Joeys.

SGS way more greats than SJC, true rugby historians know...

Sydney Grammar All-time 1st XV:
-9 SGS International Captains (7 Wallaby Captains, 1 England, 1 Scotland) vs 3 Joeys International Captains (3 Wallaby Captains)
-100m sprint Olympian Wallaby (!) on Wing (Slip Carr)
-rest all Wallabies (31 total)
-Has Col Windon, Alex Ross, Johnnie Wallace, Alfred Walker and so much more
The current mighty Grammar 15A rugby team still undefeated in GPS comps since year 7. Knocked over Aloysius 15A team and Joeys 15B/C combined team so far this season in trials. The only Grammar team to win against Joeys. For some unknown reason Riverview have served up their 15D team this weekend. Will be a cricket score. Fullback Bastian Tsiamis (2nd in GPS 100m athletics and already first basket ball in year 9) will have a field day. Onwards and upwards for the students!
 

NedKelly

Herbert Moran (7)
A sobering fact...

Sydney Grammar School still has the most International Captains, Wallaby Captains and strongest all-time First XV out of all Australian schools. Not Joeys.

SGS way more greats than SJC, true rugby historians know...

Sydney Grammar All-time 1st XV:
-9 SGS International Captains (7 Wallaby Captains, 1 England, 1 Scotland) vs 3 Joeys International Captains (3 Wallaby Captains)
-100m sprint Olympian Wallaby (!) on Wing (Slip Carr)
-rest all Wallabies (31 total)
-Has Col Windon, Alex Ross, Johnnie Wallace, Alfred Walker and so much more
Interested to see this 'strongest all-time 1st XV out of all Australian schools', not least because according the the Wiki page of notable Old Sydneians, Grammar 1st XV has produced exactly ONE Wallaby (Jack Maddocks, 2017) in the last 67 years.

Before Maddocks you need to go back to David Emmanuel in 1958. Grammar claims Julian Huxley (2007) on the back of Huxley attending their St Ives prep school, but he went to high school at TKS.

In the vast majority of cases Grammar's Wallabies were capped nearly 100 years (or more) ago, so it takes quite the imagination to claim they have the strongest all-time 1st XV.
 

fortheloveofthegame

Peter Burge (5)
Sydney Grammar has a wealth of young talent coming through. The Grammar 16As are better than the twos and pretty much on par with the ones. From what I heard, the 16As beat the twos 61-17 in training and lost to the ones 32-30. This just shows the quality of the young ones. Also a little fact for you, this current 16As team is the only team in GPS history to go 3 years undefeated. Watch out in 2027 comp
The only team in Grammar history perhaps? I didn’t lose a game in 6 years at Joeys and I know plenty of people who can say the same thing.
 

Backintheolddays

Billy Sheehan (19)
Would be wonderful to see a resurgence of rugby at Grammar, and High for that matter. Unfortunately unlikely in my lifetime.
Good luck to this bodacious 16s team, will watch the 3rd XV comp in next couple of years with interest as Grammar remains competitive there
 

Eyes and Ears

Bob Davidson (42)
Sydney Grammar has a wealth of young talent coming through. The Grammar 16As are better than the twos and pretty much on par with the ones. From what I heard, the 16As beat the twos 61-17 in training and lost to the ones 32-30. This just shows the quality of the young ones. Also a little fact for you, this current 16As team is the only team in GPS history to go 3 years undefeated. Watch out in 2027 comp
It’s the 15s age group who have a winning record and even they have lost matches. 16s are definitely not undefeated. 2 years ago, they beat most C teams. Last year, they generally lost to B teams.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
It’s the 15s age group who have a winning record and even they have lost matches. 16s are definitely not undefeated. 2 years ago, they beat most C teams. Last year, they generally lost to B teams.
Very selective bias in the reporting but could show they will be competitive in a 3rd XV comp since they can match with others Cs. They have 2-3 players that could make other Schools As another 5-6 at B standard but then 5-6 that are D standard. This is the issue with anyone playing the what-if game about going higher. To be a good 2nd XV your need 4-5 guys in that side that are 1st XV standard and just unlucky
 

Eyes and Ears

Bob Davidson (42)
And that is the issue for a number of Grammar teams, that in the older age groups, you tend to be defined by your weaker players rather than your stronger ones. Plus a couple of injuries and the team can change from solid to average.
 

twister29

Allen Oxlade (6)
Very selective bias in the reporting but could show they will be competitive in a 3rd XV comp since they can match with others Cs. They have 2-3 players that could make other Schools As another 5-6 at B standard but then 5-6 that are D standard. This is the issue with anyone playing the what-if game about going higher. To be a good 2nd XV your need 4-5 guys in that side that are 1st XV standard and just unlucky
Will be interesting to see those top players going for GPS representative teams in the future.
 

Joker

Moderator
Staff member
Sydney Grammar has a wealth of young talent coming through. The Grammar 16As are better than the twos and pretty much on par with the ones. From what I heard, the 16As beat the twos 61-17 in training and lost to the ones 32-30. This just shows the quality of the young ones. Also a little fact for you, this current 16As team is the only team in GPS history to go 3 years undefeated. Watch out in 2027 comp
Between 1988-1992 the Joeys 1st XV did not lose a game.
 

Joker

Moderator
Staff member
Interested to see this 'strongest all-time 1st XV out of all Australian schools', not least because according the the Wiki page of notable Old Sydneians, Grammar 1st XV has produced exactly ONE Wallaby (Jack Maddocks, 2017) in the last 67 years

BTW Scots also claim him. I taught him in the Prep School. Great athlete. Was a phenomenal cricketer as well
 

Funny Guy

Frank Row (1)
Interested to see this 'strongest all-time 1st XV out of all Australian schools', not least because according the the Wiki page of notable Old Sydneians, Grammar 1st XV has produced exactly ONE Wallaby (Jack Maddocks, 2017) in the last 67 years.

Before Maddocks you need to go back to David Emmanuel in 1958. Grammar claims Julian Huxley (2007) on the back of Huxley attending their St Ives prep school, but he went to high school at TKS.

In the vast majority of cases Grammar's Wallabies were capped nearly 100 years (or more) ago, so it takes quite the imagination to claim they have the strongest all-time 1st XV.
This is false. Jack Maddocks played at Scots college and graduated in 2017
 

KentwellCup>ShuteShield

Johnnie Wallace (23)

Interested to see this 'strongest all-time 1st XV out of all Australian schools', not least because according the the Wiki page of notable Old Sydneians, Grammar 1st XV has produced exactly ONE Wallaby (Jack Maddocks, 2017) in the last 67 years.

Before Maddocks you need to go back to David Emmanuel in 1958. Grammar claims Julian Huxley (2007) on the back of Huxley attending their St Ives prep school, but he went to high school at TKS.

In the vast majority of cases Grammar's Wallabies were capped nearly 100 years (or more) ago, so it takes quite the imagination to claim they have the strongest all-time 1st XV.
Jack Maddocks went to Scots...
 
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