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Billy Sheehan (19)
Great wrap up but let's not forget Scots 2013, Kellaway, Horwitz and Critchon's first year. I think New had a few internationals as well. Also Scots 17 had Harris & Brial
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Billy Sheehan (19)
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Massey, Prior and Gough are all injured. Ghattas is a hooker, his throwing is normally pretty good but I didn't watch the New game. Was the problem the targets more than the thrower? Kynan Hart should be on the radar as well, currently playing 2's.
Good man.
I have been having similar tjoughts
But since I am boycotting this game I am not tipping as well. Imagine if Scots decided to move a game from Scots main to ES Marks field?
I coached Horwitz in the Prep twice. The better player in the Prep 1st was PJ Beran who played NSW. David just missed out. Good days.
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Herbert Moran (7)
a lot of you guys would have been too young to see the great GPS teams of the 90's. Some amazing teams littered throughout all the schools.
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Moving across to CAS the Waverley team of 1999 were STACKED.... Morgan Turinui, Patrick Phibss, Stephen Hoiles, the late Shawn Mackay, Tim McGann (stellar career in Ireland) Morgan Sigg (played pro in Italy, France & South Africa) they still couldnt win the premiership.
I have explained earlier in this thread.
But to add
Last year I attended the match with friends and family. While the game was stellar the crowd was something else. I have been coming to school rugby games since 1975. In those early years my dad and I would sit near some old boy groups and enjoy the banter. There were times when someone overstepped the mark and was quickly reminded by classmates, “we are at a school match” due to the venue
In 2022 I sat in the stands in my usual position (old timers know where to find me) and I was soon surrounded by a couple of school groups, one including one of my sons. The game started as usual with year groups bantering with others and the players in the dead ball area. But as the afternoon progressed the language and mood turned for the worse. My wife was horrified when some old boys started racially abusing players. Players coped an astounding amount of filth. This would never be acceptable at a school venue.
Why?
The venue dictates the behavior. Even if there are old boys in attendance, if a school does it’s job then there are no issues. View in 2018 failed to provide adequate security (3 only??) and hence the day was marred by old boy pitch invasions. But put these young old boys in a venue that has no historical expectations to behave appropriately then you will get that what you paid for. A thuggish disgusting mob which is not what the two schools stand for. .
Holding games at professional venues that do not have an expectation of behavior sullies it for all.
good luck to both teams
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Bob McCowan (2)
to put it simply, no.
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Ted Fahey (11)
well done TG - the history of the choice of Cerise & Blue has always had a bit of doubt about it, with many theories being offered, most related to horse-racing colours. In 1981, Br Michael Naughtin wrote his impressive history of Joeys called "A Century of Striving", and on p134 it said:
on this basis, I'm inclined to believe your claim since there doesn't appear to be a plausible alternative.
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Larry Dwyer (12)
Mate, I’ve been to PLENTY of these games and seen just as much if not more bad behaviour at the schools than at the stadium - for old boys that literally is the “ historical expectation”
it’s the reason view moved the game away from the school to begin with
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Bob Davidson (42)
No, Grammar rugby is significantly stronger than High rugby at the moment. A combined team wouldn’t look that different to the Grammar team. The Grammar 1sts are basically the equivalent of the Joeys 3rds in a year where Joeys 1sts aren’t a standout team. A combined team would be cannon fodder for the Tier 1 GPS schools. I don’t think that Grammar or High have any aspiration to compete at that level again. There are only 8 rugby teams at Grammar from 1200 boys (only the 14s have 2 teams). I assume High has even less than 8 teams. The school would have to change direction to want to be a Top Tier rugby school. I just can’t see it ever happening.
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Larry Dwyer (12)
Honestly I've noticed it as well. I've been going to games since I finished up school years ago and recently multiple times I have been to games and I've heard rude and fowl language coming from some of the boys. The only school with any sort of respect is SHORE.
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Bob McCowan (2)
Couldn't agree more... However, I remember back in my prime time when we would pack in the mauls (@TheMaulester
), however the language from the opposing crowd was highly offensive, I'm sure they're just in their fun stage or whatever nonsense but the SHORE crowd is such a delight too my ears.Scrum Out
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Larry Dwyer (12)
They seem to have the perfect mix to "g" the boys up and be polite at the same time. Its quite a relieve to see one school still has mannersCouldn't agree more... However, I remember back in my prime time when we would pack in the mauls (@TheMaulester
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