NSW AAGPS 2022

[Rugbynbeers]

Glad you clarified the refereeing was fairly even, it’s always easy to critic the ref watching it back. They dont work at the school and rugby nsw refs (and human) Kings were a better team capitalising on their opportunities but New had moments where they showed they will be a threat.
Watching back it could be said there was a missed knockon in the ruck that lead to the try but the ball was clear of the ruck. But sometimes but watching back one must also consider the missed penalties and in this case red card. New three lifted and then drove the player onto his head within the ruck. There is also a video getting around of the New 9 punching a Kings player just off the Cluch footage - both would result in red cards and suspension - ask old mate from Scots!

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I do think their was a knock on in the ruck but, their was definitely missed calls going both ways.

number 5 from kings was slapped in the face from newo 9, footage going around of this then can see him setting up a try next. Don’t think their was to much in it just a love tap don’t really see a problem (link of footage at bottom)
Black headgear was Clearly dumped on his head though which would be a clear red card and in my mind possible week.

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I do think their was a knock on in the ruck but, their was definitely missed calls going both ways.

number 5 from kings was slapped in the face from newo 9, footage going around of this then can see him setting up a try next. Don’t think their was to much in it just a love tap don’t really see a problem (link of footage at bottom)
Black headgear was Clearly dumped on his head though which would be a clear red card and in my mind possible week.

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Agreed, might be a bit bias coming from a Newington supporter but it def wasn't a punch

 

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Also, does anyone get this message when trying to load the replay?

 

[wingers are slow]

Yes, this Riverview team is looking rather sharp considering the team being predominantly year 12 last year - A blistering backline with Perkins and Grover on the wing and the center paring of Julien and Threkeld with constant kicks from Dillion applying pressure on the outside backs of the opposition.

They just need to nail their lineouts which was a big factor for them as they blew at least 3 opportunities right on Joey's line yesterday.

The referees calls were also a bit controversial 3 different high tackles in the space of 15 mins, no sin-bin.

Spot on with that, one of them being a coat hanger from Jorgensen which I think could even be considered a red card, so the fact that even with the touchy being right next to where it happened and there wasn’t even a yellow handed out is beyond me. I think it would be fair to say that view probably would’ve won if Jorgensen went of the field as all of joeys tries were coming from him. Slightly suspicious he didn’t get yellow carded at the very least. Apologies for bad quality.

 

[TKS Faithful]

Spot on with that, one of them being a coat hanger from Jorgensen which I think could even be considered a red card, so the fact that even with the touchy being right next to where it happened and there wasn’t even a yellow handed out is beyond me. I think it would be fair to say that view probably would’ve won if Jorgensen went of the field as all of joeys tries were coming from him. Slightly suspicious he didn’t get yellow carded at the very least. Apologies for bad quality.

Yes noticed that on the replay WAS and thought it was a bit strange that it was only a penalty, if what you and everyone else has said about the game is right it sounds like riverview were unlucky not to get the win and I think slightly hard done by from the ref. As for my kings, some calls were a bit strange I’ll give you that new lads but I believe we were still the better side. Anyways we will see what happens in the actual gps round.

 

[Joker]

I still maintain there was a knock on

I thought so as the half back was getting the ball from the scrum, but it looks like he is rolling the ball backwards.
This shows it from head on. No scrum though. No knock on I can see

Unsure where else it occurred. Any heads up?

 

[Joker]

Spot on with that, one of them being a coat hanger from Jorgensen which I think could even be considered a red card, so the fact that even with the touchy being right next to where it happened and there wasn’t even a yellow handed out is beyond me. I think it would be fair to say that view probably would’ve won if Jorgensen went of the field as all of joeys tries were coming from him. Slightly suspicious he didn’t get yellow carded at the very least. Apologies for bad quality.

Touch judges were not appointed by the school but by an independent body.
Maybe it was what happened earlier. At 41.30 in the video the Joeys 6 grabs the collar of the View player. He is penalised for a high tackle (low grade he had just grabbed the jersey)

The hit the Joeys 15 puts on looks like he hit him across the side of the head with his arm which slid up and over the View head. Credit to the View boy who just bounced up, looked pissed off and was fine. The hit looked accidental. If the View player was hurt, stayed down and rolled around in agony like an Italian football player, then Joeys 15 would have been in trouble. The ref asked the assistant for their view and opinion. As they are actual referees and not some schoolkid with a water bottle, they could give one. Tackle looked bad from 70m away but those who were closer said it looked worse than it was.

The Gold standard for red cards was set last week in the SJC v TSC match.

 

[wingers are slow]

Touch judges were not appointed by the school but by an independent body. Tackle looked bad from 70m away too but those who were closer said it looked worse than it was. The Gold standard was set last week in the SJC v TSC match. That is the benchmark for a red card.

I’d assume the people who were closer were probably joeys supporters, because there was nothing good about it, a clean arm wrapped around the neck, go back and watch the footage if you have to. Just because the player didn’t milk it doesn’t make the tackle any better. In the official world rugby high tackle framework 2020 (attached) that could easily be considered a red and at bare minimum a yellow. “Benchmarks” don’t cut it unfortunately in the modern game. Games over now so no point getting up in arms about it. It’s just disappointing when a cardable offence as blatantly obvious as that is “missed”. Hopefully nothing of that nature happens in the GPS season to any team, as if that was treated properly view probably had a good chance at winning.

 

[wingers are slow]

Touch judges were not appointed by the school but by an independent body.
Maybe it was what happened earlier. At 41.30 in the video the Joeys 6 grabs the collar of the View player. He is penalised for a high tackle (low grade he had just grabbed the jersey)

The hit the Joeys 15 puts on looks like he hit him across the side of the head with his arm which slid up and over the View head. Credit to the View boy who just bounced up, looked pissed off and was fine. The hit looked accidental. If the View player was hurt, stayed down and rolled around in agony like an Italian football player, then Joeys 15 would have been in trouble. The ref asked the assistant for their view and opinion. As they are actual referees and not some schoolkid with a water bottle, they could give one. Tackle looked bad from 70m away but those who were closer said it looked worse than it was.

The Gold standard for red cards was set last week in the SJC v TSC match.

If I knew how to post videos on here I would. It was a genuine clean coat hanger from first contact where jorgo went on to wrap his arm around views 12 neck and pull him down with force. And the reason why it is frustrating is because they had a chat about it and nothing came of it. The touchy had a clear view of what happened and didn’t obviously say much to the refs. And also there were several other high tackles prior to that one. And correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure Jorgo had already made a high tackle on view 12 prior to the coat hanger.

 

[DragonMan]

I think the back line missed siteni. I think daniel Wright and Oliver towsend must be included in the squad for the team to perform at its peak. I think billy dickens and Stanley Martin both had very strong games and looked to be in control. My back line would be 9 dickens, 10 Townsend/wright, 11 Williams/Quinn, 12 Barton ,13 Maclean, 14 taukomo, 15 macgregor. Ps billy dickens is not the son of mark however I believe they are related.

With McGregor’s speed (GPS 400m champion) have they ever played him at wing? He’d be an excellent finisher

 

[hornsby4life]

Spot on with that, one of them being a coat hanger from Jorgensen which I think could even be considered a red card, so the fact that even with the touchy being right next to where it happened and there wasn’t even a yellow handed out is beyond me. I think it would be fair to say that view probably would’ve won if Jorgensen went of the field as all of joeys tries were coming from him. Slightly suspicious he didn’t get yellow carded at the very least. Apologies for bad quality.

That's Joeys for ya

 

[hornsby4life]

I thought so as the half back was getting the ball from the scrum, but it looks like he is rolling the ball backwards.
This shows it from head on. No scrum though. No knock on I can see

Unsure where else it occurred. Any heads up?

He's talking about the scrum, where the halfback fumbles it twice

 

[hornsby4life]

Touch judges were not appointed by the school but by an independent body.
Maybe it was what happened earlier. At 41.30 in the video the Joeys 6 grabs the collar of the View player. He is penalised for a high tackle (low grade he had just grabbed the jersey)

The hit the Joeys 15 puts on looks like he hit him across the side of the head with his arm which slid up and over the View head. Credit to the View boy who just bounced up, looked pissed off and was fine. The hit looked accidental. If the View player was hurt, stayed down and rolled around in agony like an Italian football player, then Joeys 15 would have been in trouble. The ref asked the assistant for their view and opinion. As they are actual referees and not some schoolkid with a water bottle, they could give one. Tackle looked bad from 70m away but those who were closer said it looked worse than it was.

The Gold standard for red cards was set last week in the SJC v TSC match.

In any other game this year, three high tackles in a row would result in a yellow card, seems a bit suspicious back to back weeks Joeys have had some big calls go their way

 

[wyvernboy]

Hi All

New won against Auggies ( their only win so far ) with a backline :

9 Dickens 10 McGregor 11 Williams 12 Barton 13 McLean 14 Takoumo 15 Quinn

Can't see much wrong with this backline but it has not stayed the same since. 9,10 have a good combo. 9 has a good pass and directs play well. 10 is a good runner of the ball, passess well and his short kick game is good. Can tackle if needed. 12 has been solid in defence and links well. 13 is the issue and I've said this before. Need a defensive 13 who can tackle and link well with outside backs. J.McLean defence can be questionable at times and will struggle to contain the J and S outside backs when tested. I would have O.Townsend as 13. good pass,can tackle and kick's well. Gives you another flyhalf option. 11 is J McLean. give him the ball and tell him to run,run,run. 14,15 can interchange but from what I've seen, Quinn has good skills for 15 and Takoumo can finish well and has a big boot. Reserves Williams, McLean Junior and 2nds backs.

Fowards are ok but have not improved as much as would have liked. Set piece is still not the best. As mentioned, if New want to play an expansive game and spread the ball to their talented outside backs, they need to have fit and upskilled flankers to be able to recyle the ball. They have been caught a few times at the breakdown. The flankers work hard but their technique may need improving. Maybe keep it a bit tighter initially before going wide.

Scots will try to truck it up in the forwards. They have a big pack but if New play smart and run them around, they could exploit their backs. It will come down to the forwards ( most games do ). If New keeps possession and not kicks it away, then they have points in them.

Agreeb that McGregor is a great finisher but for this team, I think he is better suited to 10. He is not afraid to take on the defense at 10 which keeps the oppo guessing and with Townsend at 13 you have 2 flyhalves.

Wyvernboy

 

[Joker]

Seems a bit suspicious back to back weeks Joeys have had some big calls go their way

 

[TheSwindleKicker]

I’d assume the people who were closer were probably joeys supporters, because there was nothing good about it, a clean arm wrapped around the neck, go back and watch the footage if you have to. Just because the player didn’t milk it doesn’t make the tackle any better. In the official world rugby high tackle framework 2020 (attached) that could easily be considered a red and at bare minimum a yellow. “Benchmarks” don’t cut it unfortunately in the modern game. Games over now so no point getting up in arms about it. It’s just disappointing when a cardable offence as blatantly obvious as that is “missed”. Hopefully nothing of that nature happens in the GPS season to any team, as if that was treated properly view probably had a good chance at winning.

If i recall correctly they didn’t even chat to the boy who did it, just went straight to the touchy and awarded the penalty? Correct me if i’m wrong. Anywho i think that the joeys boy is very lucky there was no consequences and the view boy is even luckier he is A-OK

 

[AroundTheAnkles]

If i recall correctly they didn’t even chat to the boy who did it, just went straight to the touchy and awarded the penalty? Correct me if i’m wrong. Anywho i think that the joeys boy is very lucky there was no consequences and the view boy is even luckier he is A-OK

I can't recall this at all but my vantage point last Saturday was not the best, with the large crowd my preferred bench had been snaffled. . That said, I have found referring of the tackle quite inconsistent 1 ref to the next, 1 week to the next. sometimes that goes your teams way and sometimes it doesn't which is frustrating. the best way to manage the problem of course is to get tackle technique right and take the ref out of the equation. Max Jorgo doesn't generally have any issue with technique so hopefully there is no repeat or perhaps the ref who was apparently on the spot saw initial contact as not warranting a card.

 

[RuckitRory]

What are everyone's thoughts on the front row for GPS 1? J Stiel vs J Barrett for the #1 jersey is tough, as well as the #2 jersey. C Johns from Shore is having a great season. Unsure about the #3 jersey at the moment.

First time commenter RIR

 

[TheMedow]

What are everyone's thoughts on the front row for GPS 1? J Stiel vs J Barrett for the #1 jersey is tough, as well as the #2 jersey. C Johns from Shore is having a great season. Unsure about the #3 jersey at the moment.

First time commenter RIR

Jackson stiel has the ability to play both sides of prop, I’m sure they will pick both in the team.

 

[Cockatoo Run]

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Spot on with that, one of them being a coat hanger from Jorgensen which I think could even be considered a red card, so the fact that even with the touchy being right next to where it happened and there wasn’t even a yellow handed out is beyond me. I think it would be fair to say that view probably would’ve won if Jorgensen went of the field as all of joeys tries were coming from him. Slightly suspicious he didn’t get yellow carded at the very least. Apologies for bad quality.

Before you all get too excited at certain players getting off lightly ........ it is the blonde No. 16 replacement making the high tackle and not Jorgensen who wears No.15. (its very clear on Cluch).

And yes, very lucky not to get a yellow card.