NSW AAGPS 2022

[AroundTheAnkles]

I watched a few of those games but didn’t really notice him - tough to shine with a lot of talent around esp on the wing sometimes. But those Pats missing out is a big surprise - they are hugely talented boys. Wonder what happened there.

what positions do the Pats boys play?

 

[Rugbynbeers]

Alex Conti is playing cis 18s for league currently, maybe their was a clash ? Does it say players who are unavailable for selection ?

 

[AroundTheAnkles]

Alex Conti is playing cis 18s for league currently, maybe their was a clash ? Does it say players who are unavailable for selection ?

yes there is a clash but the list's don't mention who is unavailable for selection. I have heard from some around the selection process that there will be increasing pressure to make a choice, they are sick of being played and wasting resources. I don't think this is policy but it would make sense that it heads that way. How can a semi professional in one code play as an amateur in another and how can it be smart for one code to allocate scarce resources to develop a player who is sitting on the fence or already committed to another code? I know it is nice for kids to just play footy but I think that things are moving on from that at the pointy end.

 

[Props are People too]

The speech that Andrew Cleverly made to the GPS and CAS teams at the end of the U16 final was telling. Basically a sales pitch to all the dual-path kids to consider sticking with Rugby given the opportunities of a Aus World Cup and Olympics coming up over the next few years.

 

[Rudderless]

yes there is a clash but the list's don't mention who is unavailable for selection. I have heard from some around the selection process that there will be increasing pressure to make a choice, they are sick of being played and wasting resources. I don't think this is policy but it would make sense that it heads that way. How can a semi professional in one code play as an amateur in another and how can it be smart for one code to allocate scarce resources to develop a player who is sitting on the fence or already committed to another code? I know it is nice for kids to just play footy but I think that things are moving on from that at the pointy end.

OlderSlower

Maybe the Gen Blue program needs to take a leaf out of the Penrith Panthers book with this boy from Barker.....

Panthers drop whiz-kid after signing with Bennett and Dolphins

Penrith have decided they won’t invest any more time into developing Isaiya Katoa, who earlier this year agreed to join Wayne Bennett at the Dolphins next year.

www.smh.com.au

 

[runningrugby91]

The speech that Andrew Cleverly made to the GPS and CAS teams at the end of the U16 final was telling. Basically a sales pitch to all the dual-path kids to consider sticking with Rugby given the opportunities of a Aus World Cup and Olympics coming up over the next few years.

I heard that this year the Gen Blue/NSWJRU are taking a stand against the kids who have signed junior NRL contracts which are Woods, Conti and Bartlett. I do understand both sides of the fence however I do feel that on many occasions Union never fight for the kids and just roll over. I have seen this on many occasions whereby Union have not tried to keep the kids in the game and have just let whatever the NRL offers rule. Union does offer lot more opportunities to play overseas and also what happens after rugby is a big thing as well, all these need to be promoted and the kids who are "dual path" need to be worked with not completely dropped from NSWJRU squads which is what has occurred here. Its basic laziness and entitlement of the management of the NSWJRU and unfortunately the kids are lost to Union forever. Their is a huge list and it keeps growing and growing.

 

[runningrugby91]

I don't believe this is true. The Sydney team said he was unavailable to play for them as he was going to be away (still available for schools selection). This came from some View and Scots parents.

He was unavailable due to a holiday for Sydney, but available for NSW schools selection which he didnt makee.

 

[runningrugby91]

I just noticed that the NSW Schools U16 teams have been posted. Some big reps might be disappointed. Fittler in 2’s and Bartlett not on either list. Fittler’s selection in 2’s doesn’t surprise me, I thought Bartlett would be on one list or the other based on reputation but I didn’t watch the GPS U16 2’s games. Thoughts?

I think Bartlett scored a try in every match! work that one!

 

[Joker]

The speech that Andrew Cleverly made to the GPS and CAS teams at the end of the U16 final was telling. Basically a sales pitch to all the dual-path kids to consider sticking with Rugby given the opportunities of a Aus World Cup and Olympics coming up over the next few years.

Cleverly was very, very good at persuading up and coming promising rugby players to join him at what ever institution he worked at.

 

[Love2Scrum]

where's all the discussion on the Gen Blue v Reds games last Saturday???

When do the Gen Blue teams play next???

 

[Rugbynbeers]

I heard that this year the Gen Blue/NSWJRU are taking a stand against the kids who have signed junior NRL contracts which are Woods, Conti and Bartlett. I do understand both sides of the fence however I do feel that on many occasions Union never fight for the kids and just roll over. I have seen this on many occasions whereby Union have not tried to keep the kids in the game and have just let whatever the NRL offers rule. Union does offer lot more opportunities to play overseas and also what happens after rugby is a big thing as well, all these need to be promoted and the kids who are "dual path" need to be worked with not completely dropped from NSWJRU squads which is what has occurred here. Its basic laziness and entitlement of the management of the NSWJRU and unfortunately the kids are lost to Union forever. Their is a huge list and it keeps growing and growing.

Bartlet had pulled himself out From all parhways i can confirm.

Doubt this is entirely true about not letting boys who have signed make teams multiple boys signed to junior contracts did indeed make these teams as well.

 

[AroundTheAnkles]

I heard that this year the Gen Blue/NSWJRU are taking a stand against the kids who have signed junior NRL contracts which are Woods, Conti and Bartlett. I do understand both sides of the fence however I do feel that on many occasions Union never fight for the kids and just roll over. I have seen this on many occasions whereby Union have not tried to keep the kids in the game and have just let whatever the NRL offers rule. Union does offer lot more opportunities to play overseas and also what happens after rugby is a big thing as well, all these need to be promoted and the kids who are "dual path" need to be worked with not completely dropped from NSWJRU squads which is what has occurred here. Its basic laziness and entitlement of the management of the NSWJRU and unfortunately the kids are lost to Union forever. Their is a huge list and it keeps growing and growing.

Sounds good in theory but how do you work with them once they are contracted? They are obligated no matter how basic the financial incentive. The work needs to be done before they sign.

 

[Lindommer]

Anybody got yesterday's scores?

 

[DragonMan]

I’ve just seen footage of Zach Fittler in HM Cup. He is 15 but looks bigger than most of the 17 year olds. Was he playing u15s last year in same Scots team as Bartlett?

 

[AroundTheAnkles]

I’ve just seen footage of Zach Fittler in HM Cup. He is 15 but looks bigger than most of the 17 year olds. Was he playing u15s last year in same Scots team as Bartlett?

Fittler played 16’s last year, I had thought Bartlett did as well along with Jacques.

 

[Rudderless]

With the championships at Knox starting today, I'm re-posting the match schedule.

Live via

ASRU Champs Boys

nswrugby.tv

Hope their Main Oval holds up over the next 4 days.

DAY 1 – WEDNESDAY 6 JULY 2022 – MATCHES (BOYS)​

TIME	MATCH #	MATCH	OVAL
10:00	Game 1 – Boys	VIC v NSWBB	Knox 1
11:30	Game 2 – Boys	ACT v NSWJRU	Knox 1
13:00	Game 3 – Boys	QLD I v NSW II	Knox 1
14:30	Game 4 – Boys	NSW 1 V QLD II	Knox 1

DAY 2 – THURSDAY 7 JULY 2022 – MATCHES (BOYS & GIRLS)​

TIME	MATCH #	MATCH	OVAL
10:00	#1 Open Girls	NSWSRU A v ACT	Knox 1
10:20	#2 Open Girls	NSW SRU B v QLD	Knox 1
10:40	#3 U16 Girls	NSWSRU A v QLD	Knox 1
11:00	#4 Open Girls	NSWSRU B v ACT	Knox 1
11:20	#5 Open Girls	NSWSRU A v QLD	Knox 1
11:40	#6 U16 Girls	NSWSRU B v QLD	Knox 1
12:30	Game 5 – Boys	Loser 1 v Loser 3	Knox 1
14:00	Game 6 – Boys	Loser 2 v Loser 4	Knox 1
15:30	Game 7 – Boys	Winner 1 v Winner 3	Knox 1
17:00	Game 8 – Boys	Winner 2 v Winner 4	Knox 1

DAY 3 – FRIDAY 8 JULY 2022 – MATCHES (GIRLS)​

TIME	MATCH #	MATCH	OVAL
10:00	#7 U16 Girls	NSWSRU A v NSWJRU B	Knox 1
10:30	#8 Open Girls	NSWSRU A v NSWSRU B	Knox 1
11:00	#9 Open Girls	ACT v QLD	Knox 1
12:00	#10 Open Girls	NSWSRU B v QLD	Knox 1
12:30	#11 U16 Girls	NSWJRU B v Qld	Knox 1
13:00	#12 Open Girls	NSWJRU A v ACT	Knox 1
13:30	#13 U16 Girls	NSWSRU B v NSWJRU A	Knox 1
14:00	#14 Open Girls	ACT v QLD	Knox 1
14:30	#15 Open Girls	NSWSRU B v NSWSRU A	Knox 1
15:00	#16 U16 Girls	QLD v NSWJRU A	Knox 1
15:30	#17 Open Girls	NSWSRU B v ACT	Knox 1
16:00	#18 Open Girls	NSWSRU A v QLD	Knox 1

DAY 4 – SATURDAY 9 JULY 2022 – FINALS DAY (BOYS & GIRLS)​

TIME	MATCH #	MATCH	OVAL
09:00	Game 9 – Boys	Loser 5 v Loser 6	Knox 1
10:10	#19 U16 Girls Sevens	NSWSRU A v Qld	Knox 1
10:35	Game 10 – Boys	Winner 5 v Winner 6	Knox 1
11:45	#20 Open Girls Sevens	Final 3 v 4	Knox 1
12:10	Game 11 – Boys	Loser 7 v Loser 8	Knox 1
13:20	#21 Open Girls Sevens	Championship Final – 1 v 2	Knox 1
13:45	Game 12 – Boys	Championship Final – Winner 7 v Winner 8	Knox 1
15:30	Boy & Girls	Championship and Award presentations	TBA

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

That field is going to be savaged by Saturday evening with that many games. Even in perfect weather it's a lot of traffic.

If anyone is watching please get the scores flowing. I need something to get me through.

Rae Rae

 

[rugboy]

I heard that this year the Gen Blue/NSWJRU are taking a stand against the kids who have signed junior NRL contracts which are Woods, Conti and Bartlett. I do understand both sides of the fence however I do feel that on many occasions Union never fight for the kids and just roll over. I have seen this on many occasions whereby Union have not tried to keep the kids in the game and have just let whatever the NRL offers rule. Union does offer lot more opportunities to play overseas and also what happens after rugby is a big thing as well, all these need to be promoted and the kids who are "dual path" need to be worked with not completely dropped from NSWJRU squads which is what has occurred here. Its basic laziness and entitlement of the management of the NSWJRU and unfortunately the kids are lost to Union forever. Their is a huge list and it keeps growing and growing.

Are you suggesting that NSW Schools didnt select Woods, Conti and Bartlett because they have league contracts but selected Fittler, Rodwell, Tovio and McLean who also have them? If so that doesn't make any sense.

 

[The Front Rower]

it’s true mate.

I’ve just seen footage of Zach Fittler in HM Cup. He is 15 but looks bigger than most of the 17 year olds. Was he playing u15s last year in same Scots team as Bartlett?

Because of Glengarry Zac was in the first intake and Fnnlay was in the second intake so they both never played together in the 15's and Cov then kicked in.

 

[Props are People too]

NSW Barbarians 29-0 over Vic in first game. Does not auger well for Vic team for this comp.