Armchair Selector
Johnnie Wallace (23)
What an awesome shot! Sums up the 2018 season . Well done however captured it. If anyone knows, please share
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Thought you were more enlightened than that @QH.
Here's a thing, the pic below is the Shore Prep school 1st XV.
Just some ordinary kids playing ordinary kids at U12 level.
Their season consisting of 9 wins and 3 losses. Not too shabby. Perhaps they were coached well or just a good cohort.
Then they go into the senior school and the same ordinary kids have to play against the Extraordinary.
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On the night you won it I recall. Br Anthony made sure it got there on time for your function.
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Although in fairness, Scots seem to have taken the 1sts Shield to North Parramatta on Saturday and given it to Kings after the game.
Perhaps it may interest you to know that of the current Newington 14A team; 9 boys came from the two prep schools and the other 6 are all either sons of old boys or siblings.
The 13As have a similar makeup.
Not surprising since of the 220 places available in Year 7, 100 boys move from Wyvern and another 50 from Lindfield, with approximately another 50 going to sons/grandsons of old boys and siblings.
I could go on, but it would be pointless.
Five or ten years ago I would have agreed with your general premise, but I'm afraid I can't at the moment.
I see you don’t mention the 16A’s or the Opens in trying to make your point...
Nevertheless, It is utterly ridiculous that we expect Shore to be able to compete with schools that have 5 National representatives. Shore is just an ordinary school. The fact that they are part of the GPS shouldn't all of a sudden mean that the 15 top players in the school can go toe to toe with nearly full teams of state representatives. Too much is expected of them.
Perhaps it may interest you to know that of the current Newington 14A team; 9 boys came from the two prep schools and the other 6 are all either sons of old boys or siblings.
The 13As have a similar makeup.
Not surprising since of the 220 places available in Year 7, 100 boys move from Wyvern and another 50 from Lindfield, with approximately another 50 going to sons/grandsons of old boys and siblings.
I could go on, but it would be pointless.
Five or ten years ago I would have agreed with your general premise, but I'm afraid I can't at the moment.
The obvious benefit to Rugby at Newington, will be more boys to the play the game. With increase playing numbers, comes depth. So Quick Hands, I am wondering if you have heard anything along the lines, as it appears that Newington is one school that is going places.
There was a good recent discussion on the concussion thread all about this. Its all quite complex.one interesting thing I note in that Shore photo .. if every single child has a head gear
Clearly I am not ignorant as to the risks of concussion
However I was under the impression that the head gears are problematic . providing a perception of safety, while the damage is done within the skull
What is the evidence to support their use?
I know my son flat refused to wear one.
And I wonder if such major use , reflects worries by Shore parents, as to the dangers
It is like the 911 effect . fears of flying in the USA . post Sept 11 ..saw a rise in car fatalities
so fear itself can create a heightened risk is my point
one interesting thing I note in that Shore photo .. if every single child has a head gear
Clearly I am not ignorant as to the risks of concussion
However I was under the impression that the head gears are problematic . providing a perception of safety, while the damage is done within the skull
What is the evidence to support their use?
I know my son flat refused to wear one.
And I wonder if such major use , reflects worries by Shore parents, as to the dangers
It is like the 911 effect . fears of flying in the USA . post Sept 11 ..saw a rise in car fatalities
so fear itself can create a heightened risk is my point
While that may to be seem so that more number mean more rugby teams, you must though remember that culture and current practice dictate where these extra lads play. In the late 1990's Trinity had an excellent rugby program as the Headmaster dictated that there will be only limited number of places for soccer teams. They kept a balance. Change in governance aand change in policy and Trinity rugby numbers plummeted. Soccer there is the number one code. In addition, Trinity aggressively expanded their numbers and more and more students came in with football backgrounds and continued to play as such.
In 2018 at Trinity
Prep has 6 Rugby teams and 11 Football teams
Senior has 16 Rugby teams and 29 Football teams.
More numbers does not mean more rugby players I'm afraid. Maybe in traditional rugby areas but not the inner west.
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What about the fowards Mike? Many back from 1s and 2s? I see there were a few u16s in Pres and NSW sides.
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Yep compulsory at Shore Prep as well. Think it began as a concussion precaution before a whole lot of reasearch was done into it but has been kept in place to stop head wounds (also hard to walk back “safety policies”).A lot of the primary schools make it mandatory. It was at Newington Prep as well.
There's not evidence of any benefit re concussion, but prevents head wounds.
Yes I don’t think the boil and bite mouth guard really cuts it, particularly don’t understand it when all manner of orthodontic treatment is already being paid for.Personally I am of the opinion that a proper fitted mouth guard is far more important
Anyway u probably right . discussion for elsewhere
Altgh I do note that by my head count . in the joeys v view clash (recently)
You had about 5 joeys kids in stack-hats (as I like to call them)versus maybe 2 view
Just going by that pic . where the touchie is deliberating with referee
And fair enough if prep school mandates it. just not convinced they do much
I do know there is a contingent of shore mothers very fearful
And particularly to bodysize differential certainly seen in club rugby
Reason I know a cousin of mine . has her boy at shore, son plays for seaforth, she was full of concern when i last spoke to her
And given the size of her son I do understand