NSW AAGPS 2019

[brumbiesrugby]

I would know that...Joeys won all premierships in all three games undefeated in 1957
The "perfect" Triple Crown was also done by Joeys in 1952, 1936, 1935 and Grammar in 1919.

Excellent. So 62 years ago. An event worth turning up for!

 

[formerflanker]

I for one would love to see the 2 rounds come back for goo.

I'm sure the consistent losses by Shore against GPS schools (for many years now) would have to be addressed if 2 rounds were to be discussed. At the moment, Shore can try to arrange some competitive games during the pre season.
That can't happen during a 10 game season.

 

[Lindommer]

Joker, does your table show both Shore and Riverview winning a double in the same year, 2006? Or were they both joint premierships?

 

[Joker]

Joker, does your table show both Shore and Riverview winning a double in the same year, 2006? Or were they both joint premierships?

This will help

 

[Quick Hands]

I'm sure the consistent losses by Shore against GPS schools (for many years now) would have to be addressed if 2 rounds were to be discussed. At the moment, Shore can try to arrange some competitive games during the pre season.
That can't happen during a 10 game season.

Not so sure that many of the other games which they organised were much more competitive than the GPS games:

V St Stanislaus' Lost 15-17
V Trinity Drew 24-24
V Knox Lost 50 - 29
V Barker Lost 75-21
V Oakhill Won 32-17

They would have had results similar to the Knox and Barker games had they played Waverley or Cranbrook.

If the same people keep doing the same things at Shore then they are going to get the same results no matter who they play in the GPS or CAS.

 

[Up the Guts]

Not so sure that many of the other games which they organised were much more competitive than the GPS games:

V St Stanislaus' Lost 15-17
V Trinity Drew 24-24
V Knox Lost 50 - 29
V Barker Lost 75-21
V Oakhill Won 32-17

They would have had results similar to the Knox and Barker games had they played Waverley or Cranbrook.

If the same people keep doing the same things at Shore then they are going to get the same results no matter who they play in the GPS or CAS.

Well Shore knocked off the mighty Newington 15a side, so they must be starting to do some things right. We’ll see with a change of HM whether they start doing other things right.

 

[ItsNotPink]

This will help

Great table Joker. You are the King.

 

[Loose Carry]

I would know that...Joeys won all premierships in all three games undefeated in 1957
The "perfect" Triple Crown was also done by Joeys in 1952, 1936, 1935 and Grammar in 1919.

Are we certain that all three teams were undefeated in 1957? We know that all three teams won their premierships but whether they actually won all games may be harder to determine.

Worth noting that what is certain is that the last time Joeys (or any team for that matter) won all three GPS competitions was in 1960.

 

[Joker]

Are we certain that all three teams were undefeated in 1957? We know that all three teams won their premierships but whether they actually won all games may be harder to determine.

Worth noting that what is certain is that the last time Joeys (or any team for that matter) won all three GPS competitions was in 1960.

Are we certain? Yee of little faith.
I have access to the College magazines and old school records deep in the bowels of the College.
Last night I dug these out.

Joeys in 1957 were undefeated in all games from 1st Xv to 3rd XV.
In the 1st XV Jim McCann scored 21 tries in 7 competition matches. (still a GPS record). This team was the third championship team (undefeated, NO DRAWS) in three years.

The 1957 Joeys 1st XV scored 49 tries without having a try registered against them.

Here are the championship winning teams of 1957.

This 3rds team included my Maths teacher Mr Tony "Spud" Lantry. Who was the very first lay teacher (non Brother) to teach at the College.

 

[Quick Hands]

Well Shore knocked off the mighty Newington 15a side, so they must be starting to do some things right. We’ll see with a change of HM whether they start doing other things right.

That was a good win, but I'm not sure that a 2 point win in a 15A game is the basis for a rugby revival. Newington had their best player out injured and 4 of the 15A boys who are in Year 10 have moved up to the 16As this year so all of their games have been closer. So a third of the team which hadn't lost a game in the past two years weren't playing.

 

[Quick Hands]

I have some Newington results from Saturday further to the ones that I have previously posted:

16B Scots def New 17-21
16C New def Scots 43-5

15D Joeys def New 7-57

14A New def Scots 31-14
14B New def Scots 24-22
14C New def Scots 45-0
14D New def Scots 55-10
14E New def Scots 42-22

13A Scots def New 5-10
13B New def Scots 17-15
13C New def Scots 38-5
13D New def Oakhill 46-0
13E New drew Oakhill 17-17
13F Scots def New 0-42

 

[bring back rucking]

Not so sure that many of the other games which they organised were much more competitive than the GPS games:

V St Stanislaus' Lost 15-17
V Trinity Drew 24-24
V Knox Lost 50 - 29
V Barker Lost 75-21
V Oakhill Won 32-17

They would have had results similar to the Knox and Barker games had they played Waverley or Cranbrook.

If the same people keep doing the same things at Shore then they are going to get the same results no matter who they play in the GPS or CAS.

They played cranbrook in the last week of the school holidays and lost that too... with cranbrook resting players involved in state champs carnival.

 

[Jim Belshaw]

This will help

Really loved this, Joker. You are indeed the king! Posted the graphic to the old Armidalian page because I thought that people would be interested. Nice to see the TAS blue there. Also nice that five schools have shared premiership honours over the seven years including two minnows. SJC should win this year because of the numbers, but TAS still has a chance to share. While there is life (another game!) there is hope!

 

[Joker]

Really loved this, Joker. You are indeed the king! Posted the graphic to the old Armidalian page because I thought that people would be interested. Nice to see the TAS blue there. Also nice that five schools have shared premiership honours over the seven years including two minnows. SJC should win this year because of the numbers, but TAS still has a chance to share. While there is life (another game!) there is hope!

Welcome Jim
I have the full version from 1892 if you are interested.
Message me with an email I will send it over.
Sadly, TAS does not feature anywhere else.
BUT, it is a fascinating read.

 

[Ace Ventura]

interesting that the 2nds in 1957 wore the Triband jumpers. I wonder when this practice stopped. In my time the Triband was regarded as sacred, along with the banded socks.

 

[ItsNotPink]

interesting that the 2nds in 1957 wore the Triband jumpers. I wonder when this practice stopped. In my time the Triband was regarded as sacred, along with the banded socks.

Yes Ace I noticed that as well. In the 1970s, the seconds wore the standard jersey with numbers. They did wear the banded socks though.

 

[Joker]

interesting that the 2nds in 1957 wore the Triband jumpers. I wonder when this practice stopped. In my time the Triband was regarded as sacred, along with the banded socks.

Yes, the scared "triple stripe".
Ok, I have had a quick flick through the College Magazines and found that in FACT 1957 was the final year the second XV used the triple stripe. It had been used for many years before.

Here is the 1956 2nd XV (we know it was used in 1957) Note there is only ONE lad with a crest. Was he dropped? The 1st XV always had crests on their jerseys.

Here is the 1958 2nd XV (no triple stripe....note they did not win the premiership that year....just saying)

 

[formerflanker]

Yes, the scared "triple stripe".
Note there is only ONE lad with a crest. Was he dropped? The 1st XV always had crests on their jerseys.

Every schoolboy photo session will see a minimum of one boy who forgot his kit on the day. Queue sharing of jerseys, socks, boots, shorts.
Easy for a crested jersey to end up where it shouldn't have been.

 

[Rob hart]

Meantime daunted by the weight of history the Battlers from Belevue Hill prepare to pack down against Goliath from Hunters Hill ........

 

[Balmain Subbies]

Alright then, predictions for the big game this weekend out at Hunters Hill, where some of the Estates are more expensive than Bellevue Hill.....hardly battlers country at all