The Honey Badger
Jim Lenehan (48)
re Shore . what I don't understand if why they start off strong in 13s and 14s, and then slide?
Think this is easily explained.
re Shore . what I don't understand if why they start off strong in 13s and 14s, and then slide?
Think this is easily explained.
but as training methods and frequency ramp up in later years it's hard to keep up if your school takes a more balanced approach ie limited to 2x a week training.
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I can't speak for what happens at shore but joeys boys in top open teams (1990s) tell me they trained twice a day during season so about 10 sessions a week. All boarders so no logistical issues with travel.SDW, I can assure you the GPS opens training program would be as intensive as any school.
In fact I would think Shore would have a fitness advantage on most schools.
Shore Year 10 vs Australian Schoolboy Captain
http://www.theroar.com.au/tv/colossal-hit-is-insane-in-slo-mo/
Shore Year 10 vs Australian Schoolboy Captain
http://www.theroar.com.au/tv/colossal-hit-is-insane-in-slo-mo/
Shore got the ball back, that's the main thing.Shore Year 10 vs Australian Schoolboy Captain
http://www.theroar.com.au/tv/colossal-hit-is-insane-in-slo-mo/
Has Rourke been named as captain?Shore Year 10 vs Australian Schoolboy Captain
http://www.theroar.com.au/tv/colossal-hit-is-insane-in-slo-mo/
Shore Year 10 vs Australian Schoolboy
http://www.theroar.com.au/tv/colossal-hit-is-insane-in-slo-mo/
Has Rourke been named as captain?
Has Rourke been named as captain?
I would suggest Lonergan is a strong possibility playing his second year in A Schoolboys.I'd heard that, thinking of it probably not.
This is the first time I have disagreed with you. Put simply, if the school refuses to compete for sporting talent in high school years and only accepts children if they are enrolled literally the day they are born (no exaggeration) then you will not end up with the best high school sporting cohort. You can easily get kids into scots, Kings, Joeys and New if you either have the money or sporting talent or both. The younger Shore age groups go ok because they have usually been playing rugby from U6s in the North Shore junior rugby comps. Shore opens rugby trains hard. The only other thing I would say is that you can question the school's support of rugby because they are pushing AFL and this is being funded by the AFL. Also it is stupid to keep entering their boys into games they will lose-the longevity of rugby at Shore requires a Div 2. Do rugby premierships matter? I don't know, maybe Shore is doing the right thing? I think you will find that the Shore boys 3-5 years out of school are doing well compared to many gps premiership rugby players.re Shore . what I don't understand if why they start off strong in 13s and 14s, and then slide?
This years 13As were definitely competitive . unless I am mistaken they beat Scots, Kings, Riverview (often convincingly) and then were respectable against strong Joeys and Newington teams
unless I am mistaken this years Shore 16As weren't too bad a few years back, and now they have had some hidings
I am not hinting at the unmentionable .. but I have seen the facilities that Scots has . full sized ice baths, hyperbaric chambers, etc
and so whether Shore just isn't interested (rightly or wrongly) at throwing the money at the ongoing progress?
I don't know . but what I do know is Shore has the cattle . and that isn't by itself enough
re Shore . what I don't understand if why they start off strong in 13s and 14s, and then slide?
This years 13As were definitely competitive . unless I am mistaken they beat Scots, Kings, Riverview (often convincingly) and then were respectable against strong Joeys and Newington teams
unless I am mistaken this years Shore 16As weren't too bad a few years back, and now they have had some hidings
I am not hinting at the unmentionable .. but I have seen the facilities that Scots has . full sized ice baths, hyperbaric chambers, etc
and so whether Shore just isn't interested (rightly or wrongly) at throwing the money at the ongoing progress?
I don't know . but what I do know is Shore has the cattle . and that isn't by itself enough
I have never worked out the answer to this question: why does a school like Shore (grammar and even TAS being other examples) have smaller boys? To take Grammar: I accept the possibility that selecting for apparent academic merit or ability may select boys less willing to confront physicality and that such boys may not wish to get bigger through resistance training (as it was once called) but that shouldn't stop the average height being the same in the same ethnic populations within each school: to my observation there has been a height discrepancy for 40 years.I think that the answer is complex as you allude to. The growth of AFL and soccer at the school must have some impact.
In terms of success at 13s and 14s, I'll provide explanation from my observations (others may disagree). Even in these age groups, the Shore teams are smaller than their opponents, but the compensate for this by playing a particular style of rugby which is quite successful at that level. They are able to get two or three fast kids to the break down more quickly than the other schools. At the lower ages, this is enough to secure their own ball and to either disrupt or steal opposition ball. As the boys get older, the physicality becomes more and more important and these same kids now get blown off the ball more often than not. Playing rugby against boys who are bigger and stronger than you eventually leads to fatigue and defensive lapses, which lead to tries.
I saw the Shore and the Kings 15s up on the Gold Coast in the last holidays and the difference in the physical development of the boys in each team was significant, it almost looked as if they were from two different age groups. At least a part of this must be put down to training programmes.
I note from the Riverview round that Shore lost all of the opens games, won the 16Bs, drew the 15Es, won the 14Bs, and won 13 A, B and D. All other games to Riverview. You would not have seen this 5 years ago, the results would have been evenly split.