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Nathan Sharpe and the Scrum
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Rocky Elsom (76)
And showing my Dingo linguistic skills, I can only say moi aussi.Well I tick one of those boxes
Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
Bruce
Some of your above comments are disturbing.
About 30 years ago when I was living in Thredbo, a friend of mine from the US had occasion to visit me to do some skiing. He had been involved in the S & C of the Oakland Raiders before they went to LA, though not at a senior level. He had some connection with a US supplier of gym equipment and had visited some league clubs and rugby clubs (and IIRR one was the Waratahs) before he came skiing.
I can't remember what he said exactly but some of the things you said resonated with me. He had watched some footballers training and was saying similar things to me in about 1980 as you are saying now. I have mentioned a few times that Oz sports S & C is years behind what they do in the NFL, not from first hand knowledge, but from what George told me - and assumed that nothing much had changed. My assumption was probably right.
Another thing, though far off the point: when the Bulldogs trainers saw vision of SBW training with the Toulon team after he defected from them they were supposed to have laughed out load. Apparently he was doing the kind of exercises that they wouldn't let him do because it was contrary to his welfare given his recent injury history.
Yeah it was in France, and I said it wasn't to the point, but that, and your posts above and my old story - and I'm sure there are others out there - all indicate that there is a lot that we don't know about what we don't know on the subject.
In this day and age, in a sport that has been professional for 15 years since the first Super12 teams started training, one expected the rugby S & C people to be more on the ball.
Some of your above comments are disturbing.
About 30 years ago when I was living in Thredbo, a friend of mine from the US had occasion to visit me to do some skiing. He had been involved in the S & C of the Oakland Raiders before they went to LA, though not at a senior level. He had some connection with a US supplier of gym equipment and had visited some league clubs and rugby clubs (and IIRR one was the Waratahs) before he came skiing.
I can't remember what he said exactly but some of the things you said resonated with me. He had watched some footballers training and was saying similar things to me in about 1980 as you are saying now. I have mentioned a few times that Oz sports S & C is years behind what they do in the NFL, not from first hand knowledge, but from what George told me - and assumed that nothing much had changed. My assumption was probably right.
Another thing, though far off the point: when the Bulldogs trainers saw vision of SBW training with the Toulon team after he defected from them they were supposed to have laughed out load. Apparently he was doing the kind of exercises that they wouldn't let him do because it was contrary to his welfare given his recent injury history.
Yeah it was in France, and I said it wasn't to the point, but that, and your posts above and my old story - and I'm sure there are others out there - all indicate that there is a lot that we don't know about what we don't know on the subject.
In this day and age, in a sport that has been professional for 15 years since the first Super12 teams started training, one expected the rugby S & C people to be more on the ball.
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Yep, Leroy Houston for Wallaby number 8!
Hawko
Tony Shaw (54)
Sorry, he can't even hold down the spot for his province.
MrMouse
Bob Loudon (25)
Groucho
Greg Davis (50)
I think the disintegration of our TH side might have had a lot more to do with our scrum troubles than the LH side holding its own.
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yes gagger, there are quite evidently other contributing factors, however it is quite a pertinent issue to the current discussion of Nathan Sharpe and the Wallaby scrum..
If Nathan Sharpe were indeed as good a scrummager as you seem to allude, then he would be the tighthead lock and not the loosehead lock, additionally the loosehead side of the wallaby scrum would undoubtedly be gaining the upperhand... which it isnt
just saying
Jnor
Peter Fenwicke (45)
Not enough Queensland there, RR?
Groucho
Greg Davis (50)
Sharpe changed sides because of his shoulder.
MrMouse
Bob Loudon (25)
Fuck who leaked that photo! That was a private moment, and Mrs Mouse will not be amused. Most definitely NSFW or home!
I just thought I should point out I'd just been for a swim and it was really cold. Normally I look like this
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This is something I alluded to earlier....
There are three positions in the scrum where a player doesn't have to engage both shoulders in physical contact against another player be it his teammate or opposition. None of the positions are in the second row..
If Sharpe did indeed swap sides because his shoulder gives him grief or wasn't strong enough, then which shoulder is it.. Is it the one pushing against and locking to the prop or the one locking against the other second rower and pushing against the hooker. Either way, it's safe to assume that he can't push 100%, it's probaly reason to believe why a player of his size is so distinctly average at scrum time.
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