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fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Wouldn't be surprised if Barnes does get a start at 12 and Gits is on the bench to counter fatigue.

Has to be Turner.

We are really going to miss Shmoo. He has been outstanding over the last couple of weeks.

Why change Gits just after he plays his best game in two years?
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
Hynes has got to be the winger of choice!!! I cannot stress that enough - experienced, proven performer at Wallaby level and extremely safe - just put him in the 15 and let's get on with the job!
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
I doubt there is much difference between JOC (James O'Connor) and Hynes. Mitchell is in a different class altogether, a class known as 'fast'.

You really think that Mitchell is that much faster than Hynes? How would you compare Mitchell and Turner then?

How would you compare Mitchell and Davies?
 

Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
Why change Gits just after he plays his best game in two years?
Barnes has also looked good with every opportunity.
Agreed Gits had a great game and I have always been a fan. Where can RD rotate a little to get the most out of his squad?

If not a start for Berrick then maybe a solid 30 - 40 mins on the park.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Hynes has got to be the winger of choice!!! I cannot stress that enough - experienced, proven performer at Wallaby level and extremely safe - just put him in the 15 and let's get on with the job!

Agreed, if had played any rugby of note in the last 3 months, you don't stick a guy in to a Bled match with no game time for that long
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Then the only choice is Turner.

McCabe hasn't played international rugby. Shepherd has barely played an games either.
 

Brumbies Guy

John Solomon (38)
Then the only choice is Turner.

McCabe hasn't played international rugby
. Shepherd has barely played an games either.

If you use this as a qualifier, how is anyone suppose to break into the Wallabies?

Cummins is another option
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
I would normally agree BG but lets go for a reliable experienced player for this test. The spring tour should provide oppurtunity for the others to crack the Wallabies. Hynes or Turner for me. Regardless of little rugby, I would still back Hynes to get the job done.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
I don't like players making their debuts against the All Blacks unless absolutely necessary or deserved.

If McCabe was an absolute standout he would have been playing for the wallabies by now. Same goes for Cummins.
 

Brumbies Guy

John Solomon (38)
I don't like players making their debuts against the All Blacks unless absolutely necessary or deserved.

If McCabe was an absolute standout he would have been playing for the wallabies by now. Same goes for Cummins.

IMO neither Turner or Hynes would be classed as "absolute standouts" either.

I really like Hynes but there are match fitness concerns. Turner has become the flavour of the month without really doing anything, he was dropped from the squad 2 months ago and I don't beleive he has played wing since, albeit a few games with Eastwood at 13. McCabe had a great Super 14 and recieved Rookie of the Year. Cummins has great pace and size. I just don't think we are limited to just one choice and it's a great opportunity for whoever chosen to put their hand up.
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
Turner or Hynes for me I like Mccabe but he can wait for the Spring Tour, Hynes is the safe bet but Turner being left out usually sparks a player for a big game so I'd be happy with either.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
Cummins? No thank you. I think he has long term potential, but if we want our own version of Habana (in last weeks form), someone to abandon the wing in defense or rush up into no mans land, sure, he's the guy for the job.

McCabe may be a good pick, can't comment as I've only seen him play three or four times.

Turner may be getting a lot of attention for free, but I think a good defensive winger is a must. That said, Hynes is also a good defender and has worked on his kicking. Turner is probably the faster of the two, so I'd go with him.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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IMO neither Turner or Hynes would be classed as "absolute standouts" either.

I really like Hynes but there are match fitness concerns. Turner has become the flavour of the month without really doing anything, he was dropped from the squad 2 months ago and I don't beleive he has played wing since, albeit a few games with Eastwood at 13. McCabe had a great Super 14 and recieved Rookie of the Year. Cummins has great pace and size. I just don't think we are limited to just one choice and it's a great opportunity for whoever chosen to put their hand up.

Turner has been playing both 13 and Wing for Eastwood all season and playing very well, he covered 13 as Bennett was wounded, since he returned he was back on the wing Neither of the other options has been playing wing in club McCabe has been playing 15 for Waringah, Cummins has been playing 13 for Randwick
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
IMO neither Turner or Hynes would be classed as "absolute standouts" either.

I really like Hynes but there are match fitness concerns. Turner has become the flavour of the month without really doing anything, he was dropped from the squad 2 months ago and I don't beleive he has played wing since, albeit a few games with Eastwood at 13. McCabe had a great Super 14 and recieved Rookie of the Year. Cummins has great pace and size. I just don't think we are limited to just one choice and it's a great opportunity for whoever chosen to put their hand up.

Turner and Hynes have played international rugby and against the ABs. The point was the McCabe has to be an absolute standard out to force his way into the side in such a big game.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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With Hynes not match fit, I think its gotta be Turner. He deserves it after an excellent S14 and has then gone back to club and played damn well, from all reports (the try v was it Sydney Uni? from the kick off was all class). We should be rewarding that type of play.
 

Henry

Bill Watson (15)
You really think that Mitchell is that much faster than Hynes? How would you compare Mitchell and Turner then?

How would you compare Mitchell and Davies?

Mitchell just as fast as both. But he has added more to his game these days than just his out and out pace.
It needs to be Turner coming in. Surely he is super fired up. If he's not going to play then what was the point on pulling him (and the others) out of the 7s program. Turner to start, even if Robbie is using it as justification of taking him to SA.
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
Yeh okay fair enough if Hynes is still coming back from injury with little game time - if he was season harderned I would go for him. Turner isn't that bad anyway - I hope he is ready for a big game!
 

jay-c

Ron Walden (29)
the wallaby game plan of late has been to hold onto the ball- turner is a great runner of the ball and i dont know if hes scared of getting hurt or what but all hes done in the last two years is kick the ball away- its painful
i think he has some issues regarding not wanting to let people down ie. not losing the ball in contact...
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
My only concern with Turner is that he doesn't run the same lines that have been so successful for Mitchell and Ioane. Hopefully he can prove me wrong.
 
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