No you aren't, this is merely another street corner for you to try and implant your non-rugby agenda onto others out of context. FWIW, recognising that like your comment, this has nothing to do with the Melbourne Rebels 2024, I think Lehrmann is a grub. However I also don't have much respect for some other parties in this ordeal.Yes, Bruce Lehrmann is a liar, and a rapist...
Sorry, wrong thread...
There is also the (yes, I know, highly improbable) possibility that what was said wasn't deemed to be racist. Or maybe they had a beer and shook hands, some real 'amateur era stuff'.No, I don't think Lomani is a liar - he clearly reacted to something said, and others in that section of the crowd made accusations of racism... but for whatever reason the allegation hasn't been substantiated.
Not a fan of Lomani but he never claimed he was racially abused.Doesn't mean that.
Just means that there wasn't a recording that picked it up, and whoever else the Super Rugby investigators asked, they didn't hear what was claimed to have been said
It is a grey area, minorities can feel something is racist without it directly being racist. They can feel marginalised and that they have been unfairly targeted because of their ethnicity. Yet they abuse have no racist language and in this case most likely motivated due to Lomani’s actions. It’s not really black and white pardon the punNo you aren't, this is merely another street corner for you to try and implant your non-rugby agenda onto others out of context. FWIW, recognising that like your comment, this has nothing to do with the Melbourne Rebels 2024, I think Lehrmann is a grub. However I also don't have much respect for some other parties in this ordeal.
There is also the (yes, I know, highly improbable) possibility that what was said wasn't deemed to be racist. Or maybe they had a beer and shook hands, some real 'amateur era stuff'.
Yes look I totally understand that, and outright racism, or vilification for any views, has no place in the sporting arena. The point is that often the public/onlookers want to make a bigger deal out of things than the people who are actually involved in it, sometimes it could even be a personal joke between the two. It very much sounds like something along these lines is the case here.It is a grey area, minorities can feel something is racist without it directly being racist. They can feel marginalised and that they have been unfairly targeted because of their ethnicity. Yet they abuse have no racist language and in this case most likely motivated due to Lomani’s actions. It’s not really black and white pardon the pun
You think Lomani being made upset by a comment to the point of having to be held back, which seemingly came from a random person in the crowd, is an inside joke?Yes look I totally understand that, and outright racism, or vilification for any views, has no place in the sporting arena. The point is that often the public/onlookers want to make a bigger deal out of things than the people who are actually involved in it, sometimes it could even be a personal joke between the two. It very much sounds like something along these lines is the case here.
No I meant that the person in the crowd made a bigger deal of it after the event, the part about personal jokes wasn't meant in this instance but I can see why you thought that, I could have worded it more clearly.You think Lomani being made upset by a comment to the point of having to be held back, which seemingly came from a random person in the crowd, is an inside joke?
Understood - however, I think it's pretty clear that something offensive was said, given the reaction of Lomani himself, a couple of others on the sideline, and several members of the crowd. Whether it was a racist remark or not, I don't see it being a case of one or two people taking offence to light banter.No I meant that the person in the crowd made a bigger deal of it after the event, the part about personal jokes wasn't meant in this instance but I can see why you thought that, I could have worded it more clearly.
If they questioned his character after his actions that’s valid. If it upsets him who cares.Understood - however, I think it's pretty clear that something offensive was said, given the reaction of Lomani himself, a couple of others on the sideline, and several members of the crowd. Whether it was a racist remark or not, I don't see it being a case of one or two people taking offence to light banter.
Also on the league signings, we have signed about 5 of them in the last decade, hardly an obsession as many think. It’s one of those cliche quotes from rugby quarters without any real reality to it.
I see that nowHaving played and watched plenty of rubbish February rugby it's the dropped ball that kills it
For some reason the dew/humidity/sweat/mud combo just makes the ball so slippery.
Western United playing their first A-League at Tarneit. PE consortium potentially buying rebels
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That is what they said about Waverley Park for 30 years too.Trains will be upgraded out that way soon enough.
BooApparently, if the deal with Western United goes ahead, the Federal government will fund the stadium expansion (15K capacity).