LOTE Sacked

Scotty · Jul 6, 2009

A wild, unconfirmed, purely speculative guess.

I feel one side is going to come out of this well, and it ain't going to be Lote.

rugbywhisperer · Jul 6, 2009

If the reason becomes public then it will be the result of LT taking action - which he isn't going to do because he was a very naughty boy and he does not want any one knowing how naughty he was and the ARU are doing the right thing by him in that regard.
If it does come out the ARU will be seen as doing the absolute corret thing in 1: dismissing him and 2: keeping mummm about it.

Grandmaster Flash · Jul 6, 2009

Noddy said:
So summarising our 'guesses':

- it involves some of the QLD SoO team. - it is legal
- its something the leaguies are more known for.
- its broken an ARU code of conduct rule.
- a room mate may be involved.

I'm thinking a group sex session in his room.

Surely LT couldn't be that stupid, given the current heat involving the legal yet highly criticised Sharks' Chch party...

RugbyReg · Jul 6, 2009

Scotty said:
A wild, unconfirmed, purely speculative guess.

absolutely.

Moses · Jul 6, 2009

Juan Cote said:
The picture is starting to become clearer today with News Ltd publishing allegations that a team-mate is being questioned and mentions of the Wallabies 'private-code of conduct'. This code includes alcohol tests the morning after a test (which would not concern LT) and strict rules on who is allowed to enter the rooms of the players during a test week.

I guess the drip feed is on for those in the know.....

The other scenario (and one that i am trying desperately to convice people of) may be that he broke Wallaby protcols by speaking to G&GR in the week leading up to the test!?!?!?

Well it's not dripping my way! I'm happy to receive any PM's in strict confidence

fatprop · Jul 6, 2009

Untimely dumping leaves Lote Tuqiri in cold
Article from: The Daily Telegraph

By Jim Ticker

July 05, 2009 12:00am

A WALLABY roommate of Lote Tuqiri is believed to have been grilled over the possible breach of team rules that escalated into his contract being torn up and pending legal action.

Two of the Wallabies' private team rules, under coach Robbie Deans, are the alcohol breath-testing of randomly selected players the morning after Test matches and a tight code on just who is allowed to enter the hotel rooms of players in Test week.

The breach of team rules which led to the Australian Rugby Union activating Tuqiri's "last-chance" status into his sudden termination last Wednesday is believed to have occurred three weeks earlier before the first Test against Italy in Canberra.

When asked to confirm whether one of Tuqiri's teammates had been interviewed over the star winger's alleged breach of team protocols, the ARU made only the following comment.

"The ARU has maintained a consistent stance of no comment on Lote Tuqiri's termination," an ARU spokesman said yesterday. The ARU has previously put on record that police were not involved.

So 3 weeks before the Canberra test he gets his final warning and then at some time later he does something else.

I am I reading that right? If so, what an idiot.

cyclopath · Jul 6, 2009

fatprop said:
Untimely dumping leaves Lote Tuqiri in cold
Article from: The Daily Telegraph

By Jim Ticker

July 05, 2009 12:00am

A WALLABY roommate of Lote Tuqiri is believed to have been grilled over the possible breach of team rules that escalated into his contract being torn up and pending legal action.

Two of the Wallabies' private team rules, under coach Robbie Deans, are the alcohol breath-testing of randomly selected players the morning after Test matches and a tight code on just who is allowed to enter the hotel rooms of players in Test week.

The breach of team rules which led to the Australian Rugby Union activating Tuqiri's "last-chance" status into his sudden termination last Wednesday is believed to have occurred three weeks earlier before the first Test against Italy in Canberra.

When asked to confirm whether one of Tuqiri's teammates had been interviewed over the star winger's alleged breach of team protocols, the ARU made only the following comment.

"The ARU has maintained a consistent stance of no comment on Lote Tuqiri's termination," an ARU spokesman said yesterday. The ARU has previously put on record that police were not involved.

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So 3 weeks before the Canberra test he gets his final warning and then at some time later he does something else.

I am I reading that right? If so, what an idiot.

No, I think you're reading it wrong. He was on his last chance for a while - at least that is my recollection after events in previous seasons; the breach which activated the termination process occurred 3 weeks ago. Sounds like the ARU then took time to look into it before making the call to shred the contract.

Ash · Jul 6, 2009

Noddy's guess would've been mine as well, knowing another story about Tuqiri.

Edit - avoid too many details for the moment. If the papers are too scared to publish anything I think we'd be wise to keep our speculations as general as possible.

fatprop · Jul 6, 2009

cyclopath said:
fatprop said:

So 3 weeks before the Canberra test he gets his final warning and then at some time later he does something else.

I am I reading that right? If so, what an idiot.

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No, I think you're reading it wrong. He was on his last chance for a while - at least that is my recollection after events in previous seasons; the breach which activated the termination process occurred 3 weeks ago. Sounds like the ARU then took time to look into it before making the call to shred the contract.

The thing is his last "error" was 2007?

Employment law isn't my thing, but can you be on a "last warning" for 2 years?

formeropenside · Jul 6, 2009

fatprop said:
cyclopath said:

fatprop said:

So 3 weeks before the Canberra test he gets his final warning and then at some time later he does something else.

I am I reading that right? If so, what an idiot.

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No, I think you're reading it wrong. He was on his last chance for a while - at least that is my recollection after events in previous seasons; the breach which activated the termination process occurred 3 weeks ago. Sounds like the ARU then took time to look into it before making the call to shred the contract.

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The thing is his last "error" was 2007?

Employment law isn't my thing, but can you be on a "last warning" for 2 years?

Yes, if that is what your contract (including your renewed contract) says.

Remember too, its not like LT is a 15yo on minimum wage. He was being paid a lot of money, which is broadly relevant to the reasonableness or otherwise of restrictions placed on him.

Groucho · Jul 6, 2009

Well, the rumour that people are being coy in not mentioning here, is being discussed in far more detail in some other places.

RugbyReg · Jul 6, 2009

Groucho, would that be PR per chance?

Groucho · Jul 6, 2009

Noddy said:
Groucho, would that be PR per chance?

It would be Noddy, and therefore quite likely to be an agenda in motion, on reflection.

Gagger · Jul 6, 2009

Not that it's the be all and end all, but it's becoming obvious which way Grumbles Growden is 'swinging on this one'. Sounds like he thinks he knows something

http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/news/...eft-at-the-fort/2009/07/05/1246732233193.html

Lindommer · Jul 6, 2009

Noddy said:
...the QLD SoO team...it's...the leaguies...for...a...sex session in his room.

Clearly a sackable offence. :nono :nono :nono

Blue · Jul 6, 2009

Gagger said:
Not that it's the be all and end all, but it's becoming obvious which way Grumbles Growden is 'swinging on this one'. Sounds like he thinks he knows something

http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/news/...eft-at-the-fort/2009/07/05/1246732233193.html

Lol you mean he is desparate to sound like he knows something.

He clearly knows sweet fuck all. Which is pretty much par for the course with Growden.

farva · Jul 7, 2009

Groucho said:
Noddy said:

Groucho, would that be PR per chance?

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It would be Noddy, and therefore quite likely to be an agenda in motion, on reflection.

One particular poster who claims to have links to some of the players has stated what he has heard, and it certainly doesnt do justice to Lote. Im not sure I beleive him, but am giving him the benefit of the doubt (he is a reasonable bloke so dont see why he would be making it up).

Noddy, do you lurk there at all?

Epi · Jul 7, 2009

farva said:
Groucho said:

Noddy said:

Groucho, would that be PR per chance?

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It would be Noddy, and therefore quite likely to be an agenda in motion, on reflection.

Click to expand...

One particular poster who claims to have links to some of the players has stated what he has heard, and it certainly doesnt do justice to Lote. Im not sure I beleive him, but am giving him the benefit of the doubt (he is a reasonable bloke so dont see why he would be making it up).

Noddy, do you lurk there at all?

Where's this?

Scarfman · Jul 7, 2009

Planet Rugby

forum.planet-rugby.com

farva said:
One particular poster who claims to have links to some of the players has stated what he has heard, and it certainly doesnt do justice to Lote. Im not sure I beleive him, but am giving him the benefit of the doubt (he is a reasonable bloke so dont see why he would be making it up).

What do you mean? You mean the sacking was unfair or the rumour is of a bad offence?

RugbyReg · Jul 7, 2009

No farva. Who's making the 'allegations"?

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