Karmichael Hunt charged with cocaine supply.

[ShtinaTina]

You're a bloody fiend, Shtina!

Haha not me! I've somehow managed to avoid illegal drug use but I've known some very interesting & diverse members of society during my time in hospitality.

 

[ShtinaTina]

I wonder if Jim Carmichael and Bill Pulver are on the phone at the moment to each other discussing options?

I'd love to hear that conversation. Will his guilty plea make it easier to roll him?

 

[swingpass]

That is over 300 bottles of fine quality craft beer or about 70 slabs of VB, Tooheys or other similar brown coloured liquids approximating beer.

not quite half a dozen vintage burgundy

 

[qwerty51]

I would imagine it's all dependant on if he gets a criminal conviction or a section 10 dismissal.

 

[Braveheart81]

I'd love to hear that conversation. Will his guilty plea make it easier to roll him?

You'd assume so.

It's hard to imagine a situation where Pulver isn't saying that he needs to be cut loose.

It's quite hard to imagine a situation where the Reds want to keep him either. Queensland is after all the most conservative state in the country.

 

[todd4]

I don't know if this has already been asked but do all contracts have a clause making the contract void if a player brings the game into disrepute? (or some such wording?). If this all goes pear-shaped for Hunt and he is given the boot will the QRU & ARU be not obliged to pay him under his contract?

 

[JFT]

Section 10 Dismissals are in NSW

 

[Fireworks]

I don't know if this has already been asked but do all contracts have a clause making the contract void if a player brings the game into disrepute? (or some such wording?). If this all goes pear-shaped for Hunt and he is given the boot will the QRU & ARU be not obliged to pay him under his contract?

Likely yes. You'd think the contract would impose obligations on the player, the breach of which would allow QRU to terminate the contract. Apparently he has pleaded guilty to a lesser offence - it doesn't look promising for him to stay at the Reds, in my opinion... But then again there's the technicality of which contract he was under when he committed the offence

 

[Keiran]

Section 10 Dismissals are in NSW

S12 of the Penalties and Sentences Act 1992 gives the Court a discretion not to record a conviction, even if it has found a person guilty and imposed a sentence for the offence. The Court is required to take into account all of the circumstances of the case, including:

 

[Chris McCracken]

Maybe. But if it happened pre Reds contract and post Suns contract would the WADA rules still come into play? Or has it been worked out he was still signed to the Suns at the time?

WADA rules for the four year ban are for supply, IIRC.

 

[fatprop]

WADA rules for the four year ban are for supply, IIRC.

He hasn't been charged with supply and I didn't think the AFL, his employer at the time, use WADA rules, aren't they three strikes

yep, the club doesn't even have to tell the AFL until the third .........

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...cit-drugs-policy/story-e6frf9jf-1226644494743

 

[qwerty51]

And recreational drugs are only relevant to WADA on match day

 

[Braveheart81]

yep, the club doesn't even have to tell the AFL until the third ...

It's the other way around. The AFL doesn't inform the club until the third strike.

 

[Keiran]

Looks like he'll be sentenced today, good move to get it over and move on.

 

[Hans]

I have a hungy on the Reds giving him the boot before 5pm today. Guilty plea, see ya later sunshine!

 

[BDA]

I can see why he has made that choice to plead guilty, but from what I know about the evidence I think he would have ultimately been acquitted if he'd defend the charges. I would imagine he's canvassed this decisions with the club and has some idea of how they are going to react.

 

[Jagman]

Found an article on ABC dated 20th October 2014 saying that Hunt had been training with the Reds for 6 weeks already. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-20/hunt-enjoying-smooth-transition-to-reds-and-rugby/5827608
The 4 occasions he's he's pleaded guilty to happened in September and October. I'm not sure what this means. Perhaps his contract only officially started on 1st Jan.

 

[boyo]

More on this:-

Karmichael Hunt pleads guilty to drug charges, Gold Coast Titans' Beau Falloon and Jamie Dowling cases adjourned


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-05/hunt-falloon-dowling-face-court-drug-charges/6281958

 

[JFT]

Just out of curiosity, is the use of s19 more prevalent than for instance issuing a fine and then not recording a conviction under the discretion in s12?

 

[Hans]

Haha not me! I've somehow managed to avoid illegal drug use but I've known some very interesting & diverse members of society during my time in hospitality.

Shtinatina, is an 8 ball your solution to watching South African rugby? Surely things would have to get a bit more interesting with some artificial adjustments!