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Kaplan is reffing Ireland v Wales

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Nusadan

Nusadan

Chilla Wilson (44)
He was going alright til 13mins into 2nd half when he allowed, on advice from the AR, a try to Wales after a quick throw in that caught Ireland napping when a wrong ball was used...(i.e. the one that was held by the ball boy).

Yet another country he is going to be a pariah in...
 
Nusadan

Nusadan

Chilla Wilson (44)
Really feel for the plucky Irish...

Kaplan had all the greatest view in the world in seeing where the ball came from prior to that quick throw in, he was farking few metres away from and facing the ballboy as the boy threw the ball to the Welsh hooker whilst the other ball was being handled by the crowd at least 15 metres away down towards the other end...how could Kaplan merely took advice from the AR whilst BO'D was trying to tell him otherwise...why not use the man upstairs to verify?
 
cyclopath

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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If Thomond78 turns up, we may get an interesting assessment of Jonathan's abilities! :)
He really is on the wane...sure bet for Refs' boss down the track, I'd say.
 
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BRIX

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http://www.rbs6nations.com/en/18630.php

O'Driscoll fumes at officials' decision

Ireland captain Brian O'Driscoll hit out at referee Jonathan Kaplan after the official failed to refer Wales' controversial try to a video replay.

Mike Phillips scored from an illegal quick line out as the hosts ran out 19-13 winners in Cardiff but O’Driscoll believes Kaplan should have used technology to check the call.
"That is what TMOs are for and I am pretty sure you can go to them, even from that far out. We try to play by the rules of the game,” said the 32-year-old.

"These games are won and lost on little moments and that was a huge moment. What's the point of having a TMO if you can't check that?

"When I went over to him he was pushing everyone away and I told him I was captain and he said that was fine but he wanted to talk to his touch judge.

"So I stood there and before anything else could be said he awarded the try.

"It was clearly an illegitimate try and we feel hard done by.”

The centre scored a record-equaling 24th Six Nations try but it proved scant consolation as Ireland slumped to their second defeat of the Championship.

"I couldn't care for that at the moment. It's deflating when you lose anyway - but to lose in a contentious manner makes it worse.

“I tried to relate that to Jonathan Kaplan and the touch judge and they were having none of it and it's really frustrating for such an incident to have a huge bearing on the game.”
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BRIX

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Couldn't agree more Cyclo. As our friend Nusadan pointed out he was right there on the spot - which Seems to make him that bit more incompetent as he relied on an equally incompetent assistant to have the last say. Pretty Machiavellic of the old boy.

Bedazzling how Assistants don't mind stamping their authority by intervening for the most menial of things but come a pivotal moment in a match they don't stand up.

Hard luck my Irish bros. (I was at an Irish bar watching the match...Needless to say, I left briskly)
 
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chief

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I didn't watch the game. Was Kaplan even that bad?

But from what I understand Kaplan is on the outer, he's no longer THAT protected. His poor S14 form last year, and this year is being noticed. Strong chance he won't be going to the WC.
 
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Canon76

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Kaplan is hopless, surely he needs to be sacked sent back to South Africa and left to rot. In a professional age of sports you would think that people controlling the game on the field , would be professional as well. With the amount of "calls" that he makes, that turn out to be just wrong surely he should be sacked. Sick of Kaplan he has been stuffing up for far to long.
 
Slim 293

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I think the general standard of refereeing has been down so far this year... way too many contentious decisions...

And the officials seemed to have forgotten to continue last years directive of cracking down on players not releasing the tackler...
 
Jnor

Jnor

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Has anyone got a video highlights/news link for this game, I feel like getting angry...
 
Reddy!

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
Kaplan is having a shocker this year. Awarded a try after the wrong balls was used for a quick throw in!
 
Hawko

Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
cyclopath said:
Well, as much as I sympathise with BO'D on this, he is wrong. As far as I know, the TMO cannot be called to adjudicate on what happened at a lineout prior - only the grounding , act of scoring. That does not mitigate the ineptitude of Kaplan and his Arsistant Ref who have royally fucked up on this one.
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I seem to recall that the wallabies lost a test to (the Blacks??) under the same circumstances about 3-4? years ago. No matter how much you scream, the TMO can't help you. Can't recall who was reffing, it probably wasn't Kaplan because there was a huge stink about it at the time.
 
Newb

Newb

Trevor Allan (34)
anybody else think he resembles goebbels in inglourious basterds?

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Slim 293

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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Ha!

I just remembered...

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/hurricanes-crusaders-battle-to-a-draw-20100402-rjsf.html

Dodgy Try No Comfort To Hurricanes

They will have done nothing to change the Hurricanes' heartbreak after a 26-all draw, but arguments over two controversial Crusaders tries continued well after fulltime at Westpac Stadium last night.

The furore surrounded tries to Crusaders wing Zac Guildford and the last-gasp effort of hooker Tii Paulo.

It was halfback Andy Ellis' quick throw-in that led to Guildford's first- half try that will be discussed most.

Hurricanes coach Colin Cooper said after the match: "I don't think you can allow the opposition to touch the ball and have a quick throw-in, and probably the last try was pretty questionable too. I need to have a look at the evidence, but I think the ball touched our reserves, then Conrad Smith. Clearly you can't have a quick lineout from that, that's the law."

Cooper appears to be technically correct, though the blame for the error should lie not with South African referee Jonathan Kaplan, but with touch judge Garratt Williamson.

The devil appears to be in the definition. If it was deemed to be a quick lineout then it needed to be taken from the spot where the ball went out. If it was a quick throw it could not be touched by an opposition player.

Kaplan believed a quick lineout was legal as the ball had not been touched by a Crusaders' player and he had trusted his touch judge it was taken in the right place.

In the second instance he had seen Paulo clearly ground the ball and had asked TMO Glenn Newman if there was any reason not to award the try. "If I didn't have a TMO I would have given the try straight away."
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Andrew Slack (58)
Newb said:
anybody else think he resembles goebbels in inglourious basterds?
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Completely inappropriate as Kaplan is Jewish but I suspect you didn't know that.

Just watched the game. It is time for Jonathan to be put out to pasture. He really isn't up to scratch any longer. That was really bad for a ref at that level. To not even check with the touchie. Terrible.
 
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