John O'Neill resigns

[TOCC]

The quote is


Initiate: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/initiate

So, even allowing for the possibility that JON was just showing how far ahead of the game he was and didnt mean to suggest that he had actually taken the first step as long ago as 1998, it took 3 years to actually start the thing.
FFS - you can't have it both ways.

He may have initiated it by proposing it, but the technical review itself is in reference to the one Costello is urgently undertaking..

The Federal Govt is the additional reason it is also now been undertaken, they have been applying growing pressure on the topic, if it weren't for Federal pressure there would be zero chance of this getting past the QLD-NSW voting block..

 

[Inside Shoulder]

He may have initiated it by proposing it, but the technical review itself is in reference to the one Costello is urgently undertaking..

The Federal Govt is the additional reason it is also now been undertaken, they have been applying growing pressure on the topic, if it weren't for Federal pressure there would be zero chance of this getting past the QLD-NSW voting block..

He didnt say propose.
Does he not know the meaning of simple words?

Your second paragraph seems to accept that by saying he started the process he was just grand standing - but I doubt you's concede that.

 

[Sully]

There was a review. Does it matter when it was proposed. Or how long it takes.

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[TOCC]

No I'm just saying the review wasn't commissioned in 2008 as you suggested... I'm not defending JON, merely pointing out that the team undertaking this review were only assembled around April this year..

 

[TOCC]

I don't wish to argue semantics...

The team conducting this review were only put together earlier this year... Not 2008...I don't care what JON was doing, just supporting the credibility of Cosgrove as it doesn't take him 4 years to conduct a review....

And this discussion is breaching rule 10 so il leave it at that....

 

[vidiot]

Danny Weaseler sorry Weidler (I've always had trouble with that spelling) has more background colour in the herald this evening:

Knives out at ARU

ARU chairman Michael Hawker did a great job of talking for outgoing chief John O'Neill in his ''retirement'' media conference on Friday - which is ironic if you believe the stories the pair do not get along. O'Neill used to rule the roost before Hawker came on to the scene. I've been told the pair do not get along. O'Neill is normally a polished media performer but he was made to look like a first-day rookie when questions about Quade Cooper and Robbie Deans were cut off by Hawker. From what I've been told, Hawker has dominated O'Neill and the pair rarely talk unless it's for professional reasons. Word is David Nucifora is off with the states in rugby and could also be on his way out.

 

[waratahjesus]

Would be good if Nucifora followed, his record indicates he shouldn't be advising.

I'm not sure about hawker answering those questions was him jumping over oneil though. I thought it was more hawker allowing JoN to not have to address questions that really no longer related to him while publically assuming control of the future.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

There was a review. Does it matter when it was proposed. Or how long it takes.

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Yes.

 

[Lindommer]

NEWSFLASH: STOP THE PRESSES
DANNY DRIBBLER EXPOSES POWER SCANDAL IN RUGBY UNION
CHAIRMAN CONTRADICTS DEPARTING CEO JOHN O'NEILL
RAHRAHs IN COMPLETE DISARRAY

 

[waratahjesus]

NEWSFLASH: STOP THE PRESSES
DANNY DRIBBLER EXPOSES POWER SCANDAL IN RUGBY UNION
CHAIRMAN CONTRADICTS DEPARTING CEO JOHN O'NEILL
RAHRAHs IN COMPLETE DISARRAY

I love how much smoke he blows up Nassers arse, in one article, how great SBW is and how great his boxing is, followed by a tidbit about Quade being right followed by a while segment about Quade being brave and great. I wonder if he gets payed for it.

 

[waratahjesus]

JON giving a lot of interviews on his way out, this one about adding a 3rd tier. (might need a new thread) I don't know why they don't announce these things to the public, the silence really creates the hysteria of people attacking the ARU for not addressing things.

From the Tele-

"People say we need ARC. I personally believe in a properly configured competition in Sydney, and bring in Canberra.

"You still have the Shute Shield and you still have the Hospital Cup (in Brisbane), and then the best of the best play each other. The institutions are there, they're great brands. Sydney University, Randwick, Easts, Brothers, GPS etc, etc.

"You've got infrastructure, in the Premier Rugby clubs in Sydney and Brisbane, that has been neglected. It's a lot of people's fault, including ours."

An ARU task force on Premier Rugby, set up recently and chaired by deputy CEO Matt Carroll, is examining models for a club competition, which would be played after Super Rugby.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...on-in-club-rugby/story-fn8ti7yn-1226495722407

 

[Inside Shoulder]

When did he come to the view that we needed a best of the best comp and a properly configured club comp?
Isn't he aware that Canberra did play in the Shute Shield?
What has he done about it - or did the need only arise in the last few weeks?
The guy is all over the shop.


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[I like to watch]

He names 3 Sydney Clubs, 2 of which are either broke or teetering on the edge.The same 2 clubs did not finish in the top 6 this year.
He definitely has his finger on the pulse.One of these clubs did not even qualify for his top up this year!
It's obvious he has not given a thought to the Shute Shield or a third tier, this is just about justifying inaction.....the groundwork is there already.......

 

[rugbyisfun]

He names 3 Sydney Clubs, 2 of which are either broke or teetering on the edge.The same 2 clubs did not finish in the top 6 this year.
He definitely has his finger on the pulse.One of these clubs did not even qualify for his top up this year!
It's obvious he has not given a thought to the Shute Shield or a third tier, this is just about justifying inaction...the groundwork is there already...

Spot on.... No one wants to go near this issue as far as I can see.

There are going to have to be some big changes for any new 3rd tier concept to get off the ground.

It doesn't appear anyone has the balls to have a go at making something work.

This is the leadership issue I have been banging on about in recent times. O'Neill and his mates just don't cut the mustard when it comes to managing anything outside of the sexy SANZAR/IRB deal(s).

 

[Inside Shoulder]

He names 3 Sydney Clubs, 2 of which are either broke or teetering on the edge.The same 2 clubs did not finish in the top 6 this year.
He definitely has his finger on the pulse.One of these clubs did not even qualify for his top up this year!
It's obvious he has not given a thought to the Shute Shield or a third tier, this is just about justifying inaction...the groundwork is there already...

I hope the 2 you're talking about are the same one's I'm hearing about

 

[Braveheart81]

I hope the 2 you're talking about are the same one's I'm hearing about

Yes. Randwick and Easts.

 

[ChargerWA]

Does anyone else think the words "resigns" and re-signs" are too similar?

Every time I read this thread title I have a minor aneurysm.

 

[waratahjesus]

This is the leadership issue I have been banging on about in recent times. O'Neill and his mates just don't cut the mustard when it comes to managing anything outside of the sexy SANZAR/IRB deal(s).

The SANZAR/IRB deals are what makes money, I'm not sure there is a third tier model that could (especially in the short term) these "sexy" deals you talk of are needed for the other, things aren't exclusive.

Log onto some kiwi websites to see the talk of the AIG deal being used to financially assist and prop up IBM cup teams. This isn't an Aussie problem, with the ARC being rushed and overly expensive the next step in establishing something has to be thought out and right. Failure now and it could have far greater implications than last time.

 

[rugbyisfun]

The SANZAR/IRB deals are what makes money, I'm not sure there is a third tier model that could (especially in the short term) these "sexy" deals you talk of are needed for the other, things aren't exclusive.

Log onto some kiwi websites to see the talk of the AIG deal being used to financially assist and prop up IBM cup teams. This isn't an Aussie problem, with the ARC being rushed and overly expensive the next step in establishing something has to be thought out and right. Failure now and it could have far greater implications than last time.

Your right....and what do we get, the current CEO strolling out the front door, holding his box of things under one arm, spins around, "Oh yeh, one last thing, that ARC thing ain't the way forward, remember that Club comp in Sydney (I think they have a similar set up in Bris) that would be a good place to maybe look at beefing up the 3rd tier....I forgot about those blokes....Might be worth looking into"

Yeh, thanks John.

 

[waratahjesus]

Does it matter if they are actually working towards it?