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Japan vs Wallabies, Nissan Stadium, Yokohama, Sat 4th Nov 4.40pm AEST

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Dan54

David Wilson (68)
And what about our mental damage Dan if Foley doesn't return or gets injured or sick later in the tour?

Fair question BR, but do you really want me to think my replies through properly?? I did say I wouldn't of gone with 2 experienced 10s, obviously to cover my back. Mind you I a kiwi and as pissed as you fellas if Shag did it with ABs.
 

tragic

John Solomon (38)
Thanks to six months of intensive electroshock therapy, I've finally managed to forget the England series.

This discussion is undoing all that good work, and also has very little relevance to the Japan game. Maybe take it elsewhere?
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Sorry just saw this.
I've rule 10'd myself anyway :)
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Mafi was outstanding this Super Rugby season but given the number of outstanding tests McMahon has strung together recently I find it a little baffling that people are pointing to number 8 as being a position of ascendency for Japan.

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Dave Beat

Paul McLean (56)
Hodge at 10 is just a piss take. I hope he does well and proves me and others wrong but that selection just irritates the crap out of me.

The less said about Hanigan the better, he's the new Mumm

Gave up reading, and picked this post.
Hodge played Aus 20s 10 for 2 years, no it all who no fiddly squat about players history and background piss take the piss.......

He has succeeded at 12 / Wing 15 - kid can play.

He wasn't a private school sweat heart - he went through public school and his play selected him
 

Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
So just read on rugby.com.au site that no oz Super Rugby side made a play for TPN despite being wallaby starting hooker (and great club man / community rugby guy).. WTF! Is this ridiculous or what....so what we force him to move overseas....beyond belief...
 

Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
Gave up reading, and picked this post.
Hodge played Aus 20s 10 for 2 years, no it all who no fiddly squat about players history and background piss take the piss...

He has succeeded at 12 / Wing 15 - kid can play.

He wasn't a private school sweat heart - he went through public school and his play selected him

And switches from 12 to 15 and been now hard to see how DHP and others will shift him from the wing....
 

jimmydubs

Dave Cowper (27)
So just read on rugby.com.au site that no oz Super Rugby side made a play for TPN despite being wallaby starting hooker (and great club man / community rugby guy).. WTF! Is this ridiculous or what..so what we force him to move overseas..beyond belief.
Read that too.
This is the concentration of talent that 4 teams will bring.
You think they would've thought through retaining the best players in the country before axing a team.

I'd been led to believe that he was going to go overseas regardless but reading his own words it seems there's no home for him at the Super franchises so he's got to find a team somewhere.
FFS
 

Scrubber2050

Mark Ella (57)
Shit, we are playing Japan for God's sake.

If Hodge doesn't nail it, he's not a 10's arsehole.

Personally I think he will blitz it against shit opposition.
 

TSR

Andrew Slack (58)
Very disappointing if that is true about Taf. I assume that there are logical reasons behind it - otherwise you’d think the Tahs and/or Brumbies would jump at signing him.

Just seems to me that he deserves better. Great player and, evidently, great influence on those around him.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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I'd think it's more a case of the four Super sides already having 2-3 hookers under contract, so no space for TPN and the high salary he commands.
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tragic

John Solomon (38)
How many cards has Hooper had in the same time?

Sssshhhhhh...
(6, same as quade.)
Que something about being a no 7 and therefore pushing the envelope.
Or he’s playing to Cheika’s game plan....
Besides he’s Hooper so they only count half.
 

USARugger

John Thornett (49)
Sssshhhhhh.
(6, same as quade.)
Que something about being a no 7 and therefore pushing the envelope.
Or he’s playing to Cheika’s game plan..
Besides he’s Hooper so they only count half.

It's a false equivalency and you have to be the most one-eyed, parochial fan to not see that.

Hooper gets carded for playing hard to the whistle and occasionally getting caught out because of it (Argentina card where he collides with the kicker trying to block a clearance, Etzebeth tackle where he hits him in the legs and Etzebeth jumps/flips over him). Cooper gets carded because he's effectively retarded in the contact zone and actively strikes at the head/neck area of other players.. the nature of the cards they've received are dramatically different.

QC (Quade Cooper) is the most carded playmaker IN THE HISTORY OF TEST RUGBY. There are only TWO other backs in the entire Top 30 for yellows in test rugby. It's not even a question that QC (Quade Cooper) has had an untenable risk profile in test rugby over the last 2-3 years and it's to the point where it's not totally shocking he's been consistently left out in favor of carrying a second specialist flyhalf in the squad - he has been that diabolical over the last few years.

In the past you could run the ball at QC (Quade Cooper) knowing you'd make or pass the ad line and get quick ball on the next phase, now you can run the ball at QC (Quade Cooper) knowing there's a really good fucking chance he sends himself off and you get to play a rudderless, 14 man side for the next 10 minutes (or the rest of the match).

It's not a conspiracy and QC (Quade Cooper) did this to himself when he regressed in the contact zone as opposed to getting better after half a decade+ of test rugby under his belt. Comparing a loose forward card count to that of your flyhalf as if that doesn't prove the point that QC (Quade Cooper) is a massive liability in his position was rich, though.

In Test rugby the difference between a successful and poor season is often the difference between winning and losing a single match (think about the Spring Tour - how different is it if we beat England as opposed to losing to them in spite of what happens in any of the other matches?). QC (Quade Cooper) does not have anywhere near the upside anymore to justify his enormous (and proven) risk profile in a level of sport with such fine margins for success.
 

Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
Sssshhhhhh.
(6, same as quade.)
Que something about being a no 7 and therefore pushing the envelope.
Or he’s playing to Cheika’s game plan..
Besides he’s Hooper so they only count half.
He's had 1 yellow card under Cheika (so 1/2 of one total)

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TSR

Andrew Slack (58)
I'd think it's more a case of the four Super sides already having 2-3 hookers under contract, so no space for TPN and the high salary he commands.
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Yeah - I do understand that. I didn’t mean to imply that the Super teams themselves were at fault here. Just disappointing that one of the consequences of the reduction to 4 teams is that a great and loyal servant of our game didn’t get an offer.

In any case, hopefully the stories that he was set on going overseas are true and it’s actually a non issue.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
Yeah - I do understand that. I didn’t mean to imply that the Super teams themselves were at fault here. Just disappointing that one of the consequences of the reduction to 4 teams is that a great and loyal servant of our game didn’t get an offer.

In any case, hopefully the stories that he was set on going overseas are true and it’s actually a non issue.

The only reason he was here this season was that he failed a fitness test
 
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Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
So just read on rugby.com.au site that no oz Super Rugby side made a play for TPN despite being wallaby starting hooker (and great club man / community rugby guy).. WTF! Is this ridiculous or what..so what we force him to move overseas..beyond belief.

Fuck me sideways that's retarded.
 
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