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James O'Connor misses flight

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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Personally, I'm not upset at this decision.

Hopefully it can get us back talking about the Wallabies quicker, and less about JOC (James O'Connor).

Not on this thread. This is specifically to discuss Homebrand.

That way the discussion on him pro and anti does not clutter up the other threads.

The same philosophy works well with Schoolboys rugby and Scholarships.

If you want to talk about the Wobs, go top the game threads and ignore those who want to dicsuss Homebrand.

If you want to discuss Homebrand, then don't do it on the Game threads.

It is not compulsory to read all posts on all threads.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Told yers all.
 
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Gekko

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This is my first post here, so I hope I get it right.

I am a former rugby player, and an outrageously talented back at that, and everything about O'Connor stinks.(BTW My brother and I call him O'Beiber because of his hairstyle & looks. He also plays with his hair regularly before taking shots at goal).

Where to start is difficult. For me O'Beiber should have been marked "never to play for Australia again" after missing the team unveiling at Qantas for the 2011 WC. This was unforgiveable in my book, and many others. If it was the AB's, I am positive they would not tolerate such ill discipline, why should they, they have 3-4 good players that can come into every position.

Also, I almost choked on my Weetbix when I saw a couple of years ago that this 21 year old was setting KPI's for his Western Force team mates to achieve otherwise he would not sign! What 21 year old in history, apart from me in 1987, is so good he can try and dictate to his team how they should perform. Even if I had tried such a stunt in '87 with my team mates I would have expected to get beaten up after training.

Then, there's the whole "brand O'Connor" thing, give me a break.

The problem is these days is that commentators in rugby, and rugby league, are too quick to label players as great at a young age with disastrous consequences(BTW I think Bieber is far drom great). But, Bieber has no doubt be told from a young age how great he is and he believes it. Up here in Qld when he was named at fly half we had three former players, one a leaguie, all saying how great Beiber would be at fly half.

I nearly choked on my Weetbix again. Anyone with a little bit of rugby talent, and brain, can see that Beiber cannot read a game, which means he's not so bright. His behaviour is also not so bright, so I think I am right when I say he's no intellectual giant(for confirmation just watch any TV interview with him).

Even on the wing, which is easy, he regularly will follow a ball carrying centre into touch, or get squeezed. It's not rocket science to come infield. Back to not reading the play, remember that long break Adam Ashley-Cooper made against the AB's? Where was Beiber? I'll tell you, probably back on his own 22 putting his hair into place and signing autographs to mis-guided kids who think he can play.

As an international mega star of the game I can tell you he cannot play and is massively over rated. I do not doubt his goal kicking ability but even then he sometimes take long shots which he cannor make(BTW where's the coach in all this. It's about time someone told him he does not have a long boot, both in general play and goal kicking!).

So, as far as I am concerned, the ARU(who by the way is losing money hand over fist, losing $19m the past two years) has messed up again.

O'Beiber should be marked never to play for Australia again, it's pretty simple. There's been too much ill discipline for too long from him, and others, and someone needs to be made the scapegoat to set the precedent. Beale, Cooper & Ioane have all mucked up, but at least none of them missed the 2011 WC team unveiling, so Beiber should go.

And in defence, he's atrocious, cannot read the play to save his life. Everyone's got him worked out.
 

ChargerWA

Mark Loane (55)
This is my first post here, so I hope I get it right.

I am a former rugby player, and an outrageously talented back at that, and everything about O'Connor stinks.(BTW My brother and I call him O'Beiber because of his hairstyle & looks. He also plays with his hair regularly before taking shots at goal).

Where to start is difficult. For me O'Beiber should have been marked "never to play for Australia again" after missing the team unveiling at Qantas for the 2011 WC. This was unforgiveable in my book, and many others. If it was the AB's, I am positive they would not tolerate such ill discipline, why should they, they have 3-4 good players that can come into every position.

Also, I almost choked on my Weetbix when I saw a couple of years ago that this 21 year old was setting KPI's for his Western Force team mates to achieve otherwise he would not sign! What 21 year old in history, apart from me in 1987, is so good he can try and dictate to his team how they should perform. Even if I had tried such a stunt in '87 with my team mates I would have expected to get beaten up after training.

Then, there's the whole "brand O'Connor" thing, give me a break.

The problem is these days is that commentators in rugby, and rugby league, are too quick to label players as great at a young age with disastrous consequences(BTW I think Bieber is far drom great). But, Bieber has no doubt be told from a young age how great he is and he believes it. Up here in Qld when he was named at fly half we had three former players, one a leaguie, all saying how great Beiber would be at fly half.

I nearly choked on my Weetbix again. Anyone with a little bit of rugby talent, and brain, can see that Beiber cannot read a game, which means he's not so bright. His behaviour is also not so bright, so I think I am right when I say he's no intellectual giant(for confirmation just watch any TV interview with him).

Even on the wing, which is easy, he regularly will follow a ball carrying centre into touch, or get squeezed. It's not rocket science to come infield. Back to not reading the play, remember that long break Adam Ashley-Cooper made against the AB's? Where was Beiber? I'll tell you, probably back on his own 22 putting his hair into place and signing autographs to mis-guided kids who think he can play.

As an international mega star of the game I can tell you he cannot play and is massively over rated. I do not doubt his goal kicking ability but even then he sometimes take long shots which he cannor make(BTW where's the coach in all this. It's about time someone told him he does not have a long boot, both in general play and goal kicking!).

So, as far as I am concerned, the ARU(who by the way is losing money hand over fist, losing $19m the past two years) has messed up again.

O'Beiber should be marked never to play for Australia again, it's pretty simple. There's been too much ill discipline for too long from him, and others, and someone needs to be made the scapegoat to set the precedent. Beale, Cooper & Ioane have all mucked up, but at least none of them missed the 2011 WC team unveiling, so Beiber should go.

And in defence, he's atrocious, cannot read the play to save his life. Everyone's got him worked out.

Ummmmmm.....................OK.
 

Bairdy

Peter Fenwicke (45)
This is my first post here, so I hope I get it right.

I am a former rugby player, and an outrageously talented back at that, and everything about O'Connor stinks.(BTW My brother and I call him O'Beiber because of his hairstyle & looks. He also plays with his hair regularly before taking shots at goal).

Where to start is difficult. For me O'Beiber should have been marked "never to play for Australia again" after missing the team unveiling at Qantas for the 2011 WC. This was unforgiveable in my book, and many others. If it was the AB's, I am positive they would not tolerate such ill discipline, why should they, they have 3-4 good players that can come into every position.

Also, I almost choked on my Weetbix when I saw a couple of years ago that this 21 year old was setting KPI's for his Western Force team mates to achieve otherwise he would not sign! What 21 year old in history, apart from me in 1987, is so good he can try and dictate to his team how they should perform. Even if I had tried such a stunt in '87 with my team mates I would have expected to get beaten up after training.

Then, there's the whole "brand O'Connor" thing, give me a break.

The problem is these days is that commentators in rugby, and rugby league, are too quick to label players as great at a young age with disastrous consequences(BTW I think Bieber is far drom great). But, Bieber has no doubt be told from a young age how great he is and he believes it. Up here in Qld when he was named at fly half we had three former players, one a leaguie, all saying how great Beiber would be at fly half.

I nearly choked on my Weetbix again. Anyone with a little bit of rugby talent, and brain, can see that Beiber cannot read a game, which means he's not so bright. His behaviour is also not so bright, so I think I am right when I say he's no intellectual giant(for confirmation just watch any TV interview with him).

Even on the wing, which is easy, he regularly will follow a ball carrying centre into touch, or get squeezed. It's not rocket science to come infield. Back to not reading the play, remember that long break Adam Ashley-Cooper made against the AB's? Where was Beiber? I'll tell you, probably back on his own 22 putting his hair into place and signing autographs to mis-guided kids who think he can play.

As an international mega star of the game I can tell you he cannot play and is massively over rated. I do not doubt his goal kicking ability but even then he sometimes take long shots which he cannor make(BTW where's the coach in all this. It's about time someone told him he does not have a long boot, both in general play and goal kicking!).

So, as far as I am concerned, the ARU(who by the way is losing money hand over fist, losing $19m the past two years) has messed up again.

O'Beiber should be marked never to play for Australia again, it's pretty simple. There's been too much ill discipline for too long from him, and others, and someone needs to be made the scapegoat to set the precedent. Beale, Cooper & Ioane have all mucked up, but at least none of them missed the 2011 WC team unveiling, so Beiber should go.

And in defence, he's atrocious, cannot read the play to save his life. Everyone's got him worked out.
Anything else you want to get off your chest?
 

GaffaCHinO

Peter Sullivan (51)
This is my first post here, so I hope I get it right.

I am a former rugby player, and an outrageously talented back at that, and everything about O'Connor stinks.(BTW My brother and I call him O'Beiber because of his hairstyle & looks. He also plays with his hair regularly before taking shots at goal).

Where to start is difficult. For me O'Beiber should have been marked "never to play for Australia again" after missing the team unveiling at Qantas for the 2011 WC. This was unforgiveable in my book, and many others. If it was the AB's, I am positive they would not tolerate such ill discipline, why should they, they have 3-4 good players that can come into every position.

Also, I almost choked on my Weetbix when I saw a couple of years ago that this 21 year old was setting KPI's for his Western Force team mates to achieve otherwise he would not sign! What 21 year old in history, apart from me in 1987, is so good he can try and dictate to his team how they should perform. Even if I had tried such a stunt in '87 with my team mates I would have expected to get beaten up after training.

Then, there's the whole "brand O'Connor" thing, give me a break.

The problem is these days is that commentators in rugby, and rugby league, are too quick to label players as great at a young age with disastrous consequences(BTW I think Bieber is far drom great). But, Bieber has no doubt be told from a young age how great he is and he believes it. Up here in Qld when he was named at fly half we had three former players, one a leaguie, all saying how great Beiber would be at fly half.

I nearly choked on my Weetbix again. Anyone with a little bit of rugby talent, and brain, can see that Beiber cannot read a game, which means he's not so bright. His behaviour is also not so bright, so I think I am right when I say he's no intellectual giant(for confirmation just watch any TV interview with him).

Even on the wing, which is easy, he regularly will follow a ball carrying centre into touch, or get squeezed. It's not rocket science to come infield. Back to not reading the play, remember that long break Adam Ashley-Cooper made against the AB's? Where was Beiber? I'll tell you, probably back on his own 22 putting his hair into place and signing autographs to mis-guided kids who think he can play.

As an international mega star of the game I can tell you he cannot play and is massively over rated. I do not doubt his goal kicking ability but even then he sometimes take long shots which he cannor make(BTW where's the coach in all this. It's about time someone told him he does not have a long boot, both in general play and goal kicking!).

So, as far as I am concerned, the ARU(who by the way is losing money hand over fist, losing $19m the past two years) has messed up again.

O'Beiber should be marked never to play for Australia again, it's pretty simple. There's been too much ill discipline for too long from him, and others, and someone needs to be made the scapegoat to set the precedent. Beale, Cooper & Ioane have all mucked up, but at least none of them missed the 2011 WC team unveiling, so Beiber should go.

And in defence, he's atrocious, cannot read the play to save his life. Everyone's got him worked out.
Word of advise......lay off the wacky tobacy

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jermano

Ted Fahey (11)
All five Australian teams could make room for JOC (James O'Connor), EPS.
If he still wants to be a Wallaby, EPS.


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terry j

Ron Walden (29)
gekko, tbh it reads more like a commentary on your own hang ups rather than a commentary on JOC (James O'Connor).
 

USARugger

John Thornett (49)
.All you can really say is you idiot. How much effort does it take not to be a complete tool in a public place?

This is really all that needs to be said here. Seriously, as a 22 year-old myself it is just fucking mind boggling the way he continues to behave.
 

redstragic

Alan Cameron (40)
Then, there's the whole "brand O'Connor" thing, give me a break..


I wonder if he is missing an opportunity here for his brand. Apple recently just repackaged the last iPhone in a new colour and they will sell millions.

Authenticity though is key here for JOC (James O'Connor), what if he was to do a cross promotion and match up his love of his hair, rugby and getting pissed by playing each week with his hair the same colour as a Bacardi Breezer. So many to choose from and no way Bacardi would not be into it.

lemon, peach, pineapple, apple, ruby grapefruit, lime, orange, blackberry, watermelon, cranberry, coconut, raspberry, blueberry, pomegranate, strawberry, and mango.
 

biggsy

Chilla Wilson (44)
All five Australian teams could make room for JOC (James O'Connor), EPS.
If he still wants to be a Wallaby, EPS.


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Really.... There is only 1 team that will take at the moment. And he might have ruinind that now.

Culture is quickly becoming a big key in the franchises. I'm Not saying it always hasn't, but it's now just as important as the game plan.
Link bought this into the reds and if you heard a podcast a few weeks back with cheika. He also is making team culture a big key, and this fitlers through the entire rugby community. And as much as I can't stand the tahs, I reckon there going to be far better next year and I'm a little worried.
Clubs are looking pass JOC (James O'Connor) talent and thinking do they want or really need this dirty attitude to ruin a happy team culture.

Link has now shown if you don't want to buy in to team culture, you can fuck off no matter the talent.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Link has now shown if you don't want to buy in to team culture, you can fuck off no matter the talent.

Hypothetical, if Homebrand hadn't been a pork chop at the Airport, would Link have retained him?

How long would it have taken for him to annoy Link and his team mates to such an extent that he would be dropped for his negative effect on the Team Culture?
 

redstragic

Alan Cameron (40)
Hypothetical, if Homebrand hadn't been a pork chop at the Airport, would Link have retained him?

How long would it have taken for him to annoy Link and his team mates to such an extent that he would be dropped for his negative effect on the Team Culture?


Good point but the answer is as long as it took him to fuck up. I know nothing of what goes on in the wallabies but the media had been reporting he was trying to mend his ways up to this incident. He has started all the tests this year which shows what the aru thinks of his talent.

The wallabies will be stronger for this with their culture held above talent. Bring on the Bok's and the Puma's.
 
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