Crashy
Alan Cameron (40)
Thanks team Australia. You're a fucking fluffybunny.
Hurricanes vs Waratahs Super Rugby R7 2025 - Friday 28 March
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Yoda
Nev Cottrell (35)
Good one ‘Champ’!
Dismal Pillock
Michael Lynagh (62)
Yoda
Nev Cottrell (35)
“That’s how I roll”!
Curious handle you have yet happy to death-ride an Aus team against a Kiwi team. Why so bitter?
Dismal Pillock
Michael Lynagh (62)
FINE THEN, off you go, have a great time, leave us all here on our lonesomes watching the Friday Night Footy, don't worry about us, we'll be fine, off you go, have a bloody fantastic time. GREAT. JUST BLOODY GREAT.
A mutterer
Chilla Wilson (44)
Tahs fell victim to the curse of scoring early again. I swear it's part of their DNA. Losing 3 backs early painted the sign for the result.
Trying to run it out from the 22, not securing attacking ruck ball. Silly penalties and handling errors. It will be a tough watch on Monday. Not sure if another Dan Mc rev up will work, given the midfield bomb tactics fell short.
That aside, Bell and Gleeson tried carrying the team through individual effort. Looking promising for the lions so far.
Trying to run it out from the 22, not securing attacking ruck ball. Silly penalties and handling errors. It will be a tough watch on Monday. Not sure if another Dan Mc rev up will work, given the midfield bomb tactics fell short.
That aside, Bell and Gleeson tried carrying the team through individual effort. Looking promising for the lions so far.
Either a Rebels or a League fan.
Wilson
John Eales (66)
Derpus
Phil Waugh (73)
So every collapsed rolling maul should be a penaltry try, no? If not for collapsing, presumably, they would all end in tries (unless its stationary but why would you collapse a stationary maul?).
Wilson
John Eales (66)
Only now? Why on earth would you care what non-tahs fans think of the tahs, and why wouldn't you already want to see their main local rivals lose?
It's insane to me the degree to which people decry competitions like the NRC "lacking tribalism" when there are, hardcore, rusted on rugby fans (lets be serious, you're not here if your not one) who aren't engaging in the centauries old rivalries right in front of them.
Don't just stop cheering for the Reds, Brumbies or Force, embrace the hate - it's the only chance our game has.
Wilson
John Eales (66)
No, the maul was irrelevant to my point. I simply meant that whether an infringement is repeated should have no bearing on the penalty try call (what I think Strewth actually meant), not that a repeated infringement should preclude one being called (what he ended up posting).
For the specifics of a maul it does not necessarily follow that a try would be scored in all cases, the balance of probabilities tips depending on position and the speed it was moving. The reffing there is generally a bit of a mess though. I think at this stage I'd prefer if the maul was called dead (can play the ball out still) as soon as it was under penalty advantage. It wouldn't fix everything, but it would help limit the double rewarding that seems to happen with really dominant mauls.
Derpus
Phil Waugh (73)
But how could a rolling maul that is moving forward ever not result in a try without it being collapsed? Outside the attacking side tripping over themselves its essentially impossible. It seems to me that collapsing a maul that is moving forward on the defending tryline would always be a penalty that prevents a try.
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Wilson
John Eales (66)
It's fairly difficult to keep one going, even undefended. Generally binds break and players trip in a bunch of ways that make it illegal, and that's before you consider defensive players ability to rejoin the maul. Don't get me wrong, it's far from perfect, but I don't mind that part of the test being a bit different for mauls (and scrums).
This is getting a fair way from the point I was making about repeated infringements and their relevance to penalty tries though.
Derpus
Phil Waugh (73)
Yeah I only mentioned repeat infringements because it seems like that is actually when a penalty try is awarded (not because I think its correct). And I am interested generally in when a maul collapse should or shouldn't result in a penalty try (sounds like always).
To destroy that which you hate most first you must understand it.
Wilson
John Eales (66)
The maul (and scrum) are the weird part of the game here, where you can very easily get penalized, carded, and concede a penalty try by virtue of being bad at rugby, instead of any intentional mistake. I'm not exactly sure what the answer is, but I definitely don't think they should always be treated the same as open field infringements. Whatever the answer is though, consistency is probably key.
The Ghost of Raelene
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
When playing each other it’s alive but I dislike NZ more than QLD that’s why I’d cheer for the reds over the Blues. Don’t with it now though. Hope both the Brums and Reds make finals and then have their pants pulled down again. Force will Force the season up and miss it.
I don’t think it’s the only chance our game has and just creates the divisions that drag us back and then when the Rebels can’t pay for the chip stand it’s somehow those mean Waratahs I don’t know how but it is their fault as they wipe away tears with an ATO notice.
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
When DM was appointed I posted a bit of negativity, basically saying he had the benefit of half the Wallabies while he was at the Brumbies and didn't really win anything except for lots of rolling mauls, and followed that record up in his brief NH stint. The disciples on here turned me around and made me a supporter. I haven't gone full 360 yet but the needle is starting to turn back around. I'm hanging in there because as someone said above (GOR I think?) no coach is going to turn around a wooden spoon outfit into premiers in one season despite the (supposed) net injection of talent, and coaches develop just like players do. I'll remain a Tahs supporter forever and I'm certainly not going to put the boot into the players or the coaching staff. But that was dire watching and I found myself betting on greyhounds as a distraction....
The Ghost of Raelene
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
From where they were/are the Tahs are a 3 year job to being a top 4 contender.
We’ve seen new talent coming through, improved maul defence and an overall fitter side.
HC and GM will continue to turn over the roster and get caps into kids who fingers crossed will carry the side for 4-5 years.
Strewthcobber
David Codey (61)
Yep. With everyone fit, and out on the park, the Tahs probably can run with most teams.
Halfway through the season, with Wallaby rests and injuries, they are going to end up with pretty inexperienced/ordinary teams in the back half of games (eg last night).
They have the worst second row in the comp, and their dirt tracker backline is incredibly green.
There's only so much a coach can do with a squad as thin as the Tahs. They will be better every game they play
Halfway through the season, with Wallaby rests and injuries, they are going to end up with pretty inexperienced/ordinary teams in the back half of games (eg last night).
They have the worst second row in the comp, and their dirt tracker backline is incredibly green.
There's only so much a coach can do with a squad as thin as the Tahs. They will be better every game they play