Johnny Blaze
Herbert Moran (7)
Very underrated, wouldn't mind him @ flyhalf or inside centre but like Chambers may not be blooded in time unless there's a few injuries.
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Very underrated, wouldn't mind him @ flyhalf or inside centre but like Chambers may not be blooded in time unless there's a few injuries.
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Wycliff Palu was one to the top contenders for the very same medal in 2010... Without even playing a game in 2010.. Voting includes the spring tour of the previous year
en_force_er
Geoff Shaw (53)
I've always thought this was a bit silly.
It would be terrific to see the John Eales medal become a home coming for the Spring Tour boys. This doesn't mean there can't be a separate event held but it seems silly that the Spring tour that seems such a distant memory is relevant in the voting.
Brumby Jack
Steve Williams (59)
Because To'omua is only a 10, Lealiifano has said he might play at 15 and the Brumbies will probably need all 3 on the field at the same time.
Groucho
Greg Davis (50)
These people talking up Lealiifano as a fly-half obviously haven't had to sit in the cold at Bruce Stadium and watch him play in that role. He is sometimes okay at 10, but often dreadful. He has a big boot with no modulation at all. I have never seen a player kick inadvertently out on the full as much as he did.
What he is, is a 12 with potential. The idea that he could play 10 for the Wallabies, especially ahead of a talent like To'omua, is ridiculous.
What he is, is a 12 with potential. The idea that he could play 10 for the Wallabies, especially ahead of a talent like To'omua, is ridiculous.
Aussie D
Desmond Connor (43)
On the John Eales medal win in 2009 some of you blokes obviously haven't voted for a "player's player" at any time in your playing days. Generally it goes to a loose forward or an outside back (or a tight forward who plays out in the backs) as they are often seen to be doing things. I remember one game I played in the inside centre was getting all the votes for player's player as he made a few good tackles in the game, most players were like sheep and gave their votes to him - I was one of the few who gave a vote to our hooker who had a monster of a game in tight that went largely unrecognised. Moral of the story is that often the guys who have the "best" games and contribute most to wins go un-noticed whereas guys who do one or two "flash" things get the plaudits. Have a look who wins the NRL award every year - always a halfback or outside back, maybe a dummy-half. Never a forward as they aren't flashy enough.
en_force_er
Geoff Shaw (53)
It is pretty hard to notice the subtleties of the game when you have your own stuff to do.
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Quote of the thread. Well said sir. If players are taking voting notes in a game I would suggest they might not be fully engaged when the time comes to actually do something.
I wonder if Beale was admiring Cooper too much when he got the infamous falcon...? :-D
Scotty
David Codey (61)
It is unlikely that any backs will vote for a forward, but some forwards would still vote for backs, so the most votes tend to go to a back that plays almost all games.
It may be, but others including To'omua are simply better players. So he better find another starting option
The only challenge for To'omua is that he is conservative style 10 How the "public" and "media" will cope the guy's style will be interesting. He is more "Barnes" than "Cooper"
Scotty
David Codey (61)
He was great at 12 for the Brumbies this year before injury.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
Neither the media or the public will care if he wins games. Guarantee it.
Johnny Blaze
Herbert Moran (7)
Groucho,
You've made some good points, seems I have a short memory - his kicking game was abysmal and very frustrating to watch (especially the little chip kicks) but I thought he played very well at 12 in terms of passing/ distribution, speed and tackling. With a bit of polishing he would be well worth a look.
Richo
John Thornett (49)
And we all know while that style might have worked for the Tahs in winning games, it hasn't worked with hearts and minds --- just look how many people think the Reds are the best team in Australia.
Groucho
Greg Davis (50)
Johnny Blaze, I thought he played really well at 12 as well: a potential Wallaby. Perhaps a more elusive A Finger, with a big boot and ball playing skills.
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