Genia's Yellow

[louie]

Yellow, consistently with whats yellow and whats not is problem in our game. More of them in my opinion.

 

[mark_s]

Was a clear yellow for mine, and pretty bloody cynical at that. Very disappionting from the captain and very lazy. it should be a yellow and the tackler shouldnt be able to play the bal unless they are on their feet.

 

[Dan54]

Funny, down in Sydney reading papers last week in one of them a couple of pages of League coaches all moaning about inconsistency of refs in league, and how 2 refs doesn't help, is there any form of sport that agrees with their refs??

 

[louie]

Not that i can think of. Good mate of mine works in AFL ref circles. He says that the professional standard of League and Rugby coaches is is a joke. Having never watched AFL for more then one game i can't compare but it's interesting.

 

[Scott Allen]

Definitely a yellow

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Not that i can think of. Good mate of mine works in AFL ref circles. He says that the professional standard of League and Rugby coaches is is a joke. Having never watched AFL for more then one game i can't compare but it's interesting.

I admit to watching a few Cross Country Volley Ball (CCVB) games, and barracking for Carlton.

I am impressed that the CCVB referees practice bouncing the ball before the game. Their running backwards when they return the ball to the head referee after a goal is so balletic it could be described as poetry in motion. I'm fairly sure that they practice this during their warm up. If that is professionalism than so be it.

Having attended some of their games, I have noted that they need to have a burly bloke wearing a flouro vest with "UMPIRE ESCORT" on the back to hold the referees hands while they walk on and off the field. Obviously the fans really respect their referees. Must be professional.

My introduction to CCVB from a mexican mate included the guidance that I was to call the referee a "white maggot" (they used to wear white back in the day), as a term of endearment. Contrast this with Heavensgame where they are Sir. Always have been, always will be Sir. Regardless of how wrong Sir is, Sir will never be a white maggot.

And that my dear friends is the difference.

 

[Scotty]

No doubt it was a yellow but the issue i have with the situation was in the lead up. One of the all black was tacked and for about the first and only time the wobs counter rucked and cleared the blacks back. The tacklef player who had placed the ball was still on the ground picked the ball up and passed it out the nect tackle that was madevwas genias. It should have been a pen to the wobs for playing the ball on the ground.

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This is the one I was thinking about and it was Crockett. Clear case if playing the ball on the ground but Owens only reffed one team for most of the game.

 

[Muttonbird]

Mccaw infinges in every ruck. He's a farking cheat. He should have been yellow carded and red carded.

Hehe. Lovely quote here. Saint Richie's supposed offending is yesterday's news. He's at the twilight of his career and still opposition fans are wondering why he's so good. I'll give you a clue, he's not a cheat, just that he's known the game since he could walk. That's what we do in NZ.

Btw, Waylon's post here would be bannable were it from anyone not from Australia. Just saying.

 

[Richo]

Do we really need another Richie McCaw thread?

 

[Muttonbird]

Do we really need another Richie McCaw thread?

No we don't. Not sure who brought up Saint Richie first. He's alway bubbling under the surface though. I heard a story that 12 year old players in McCaw's club/school were complaining that Richie was too rough with them at only 7 years of age. He's a once in a generation player the world over.

 

[biggsy]

Genia made the tackle and then released him, from there it was played from the ground. Genia was pointing to his forwards to get there in defence and the ball was thrown into hands. That what really happened wasn't it.

 

[FrankLind]

Well you know as well as I do Waylon you are just trolling, if he did infringe every ruck he would get penalised every ruck, or perhaps you are more knowledgeable than refs.

No he pays them off, no wait, its that cloak of invisibility, no, they are scared to punish him because he has them under his psychic spell. Yeah, that's it.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Genia made the tackle and then released him, from there it was played from the ground. Genia was pointing to his forwards to get there in defence and the ball was thrown into hands. That what really happened wasn't it.

Found the bottom of the Bundy keg yet Biggsy?

 

[biggsy]

Ha, yeah found it hard

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Thought you may have been forced to do the old Bundy bear intraveniously.

Was hard to take. Very hard. Disappointment forced La Jarse to lock up the keyboards last night for fear of yours truly posting regrettable and retractable contributions.

When I previously posted that Saturday night was going to be special, it meant that it could be either positively special or negatively special.

Unfortunately it was the latter. 50 years since a down trou to the Darkness!!

 

[Scoey]

No doubt it was a yellow card, simply due to the fact that it was blatant cynical play - absolute brain fart.

The thing I have a problem with is the justification that the AB's "were likely to score". Going by the amount of other tries we stopped in that game, no one could say that they were "likely" to score. This (in this case) is ridiculously subjective and shouldn't weigh into the decision - I would like to think that Owens didn't consider this. But as I said in my first sentence - you don't need to consider the likelihood of scoring in this instance - go have a rest Sanchez.

As for the consistency, I felt that there were grounds for a NZ yellow when we were awarded 2 penalties hot on attack. The second one being close to the 22 with NZ scrambling, McCaw "fell" awkwardly at the ruck and onto the ball as Sanchez was about to let it sing. Cynical. We were awarded a penalty but nothing more. No one got chatted to, no one got warned.

The icing on the cake was when Quade got penalised late in the game for tugging on a support players jersey. I hate that sort of play but to call him out and tell him that he was lucky it wasn't yellow was ridiculous. Owens clearly had a bee in his bonnet that night.

My last complaint I think came late-ish in the game. At a ruck, AUS had cleaned out and were securing the ball. I can't remember which NZ player it was but he was bound in the ruck and was playing the ball with his hands. Owens said very clearly, "Leave it black! Leave it black! Leave it black!". The NZ player eventually picked up the ball and turned it over, to which Owens then said, "That it fine". WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!

But I digress...
1. Yes Sanchez's was a yellow
2. Cynical is often difficult to define and is rarely as obvious as Sanchez's incident. That's what makes Richie so good. He makes often somewhat cynical play look quite legitimate and/or innocent.
3. I hate passing off the ground. If the tackler can't influence the ruck until he reaches his feet, neither should the tackled player.

 

[Scotty]

Scoey,

You thoughts mirror mine.

A few other ridiculous things that when against us:

a) called up for Higgers being in front of Barnes at the 22 kick off when he clearly wasn't, and then essentially lecturing the Wallabies about it.

b) calling sharpe for being offside at a ruck when clearly the ball was out (lack of consistency here as exactly the same thing went against us at around the 15 minute mark)

c) the very strange penalty in the first 5 where a NZ player seemed to come around the side only for us to get penalised for sealing it off

 

[Da Munch]

This is the one I was thinking about and it was Crockett. Clear case if playing the ball on the ground but Owens only reffed one team for most of the game.

Which happened @ 28:10 Genia's yellow was @ 28:26 Mealamu came in from the side as well at the same ruck and Owen had a great view - I was still yelling when Genia was binned.
1. Yes, but the ball should of ever got there
2. Yes, but we need to change our colours cause it seems that if your aren't wearing yellow you don't get em
3. Definitely, see below for an example and later in on the game the wannas got pinged for it

 

[Scoey]

Scoey,

You thoughts mirror mine.

A few other ridiculous things that when against us:

a) called up for Higgers being in front of Barnes at the 22 kick off when he clearly wasn't, and then essentially lecturing the Wallabies about it.

b) calling sharpe for being offside at a ruck when clearly the ball was out (lack of consistency here as exactly the same thing went against us at around the 15 minute mark)

c) the very strange penalty in the first 5 where a NZ player seemed to come around the side only for us to get penalised for sealing it off

Ah yes - I had forgotten about those incidents also. a) infuriated me! Resulted in a centre field scrum to AB's on the 22. Such a stupid call could have cost us dearly! I can't remember if they took points away from that. b) I think the words Ownes used were "WAY offside. You were WAAAAY offside there. Captain, come here. He was WAAAAY offside." No he wasn't. It would've been marginal to call him offside at all, and by the standard set in a number of other rucks in the game, he probably could've snuck up a little bit also.
c) That one perplexed me, but as I hadn't yet hitched up the angry pants, and my furious pants were still in the cupboard, I just scratched my head and *sighed*, here we go again.

 

[Jay]

The penalty on Quade was at about the 50 minute mark and was absolutely a penalty - he got caught in no man's land on defence so he just grabbed Read coming through in support.

The Crockett thing was pretty iffy, but equally the way 3 Wallabies have fallen over past the ball there - well, let's just say when the All Blacks do that you get a lot of comments round these parts...