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MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
Great stuff to watch for a Wallaby Supporter! Didn't see too many scrums against the AB's though.. :thumb

One thing which really stuck out for me, was the amount of times (on both sides) a scrum didn't give clean ball. Truly is one messed up part of the game, the scrums these days.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
MajorlyRagerly said:
Didn't see too many scrums against the AB's though.. :thumb

Uh, that's because every time Baxter snapped Woodcock, we got penalised for it...
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
I don't disagree with the one at 02:15 against Smith - he went off his feet and was after a knockdown at best. The third scrum penalty against Baxter was the fault of both props, but the rest of it is pure hometown call bullshit. Palu should know better about the tap though.
 

TheRiddler

Dave Cowper (27)
I've just come in after (yet another) Xmas Party and watched this - not a good thing to see before hitting the sack. How Robbie didnt go to Paddy after that debacle and complain that Joubert well and truly farked Baxter is beyond me. How Paddy didnt come out in the blaze of public media and criticize Mr Jourbert is truly unbelievable.... :fishing
 

JJJ

Vay Wilson (31)
Maybe the next time the Wallabies and Springboks play against each other PdV will bring Gary along on his meeting with the ref to explain what lousy cheaters we are. It seemed to do the trick for Graham Henry and Mike Cron.
 

Sandpit Fan

Nev Cottrell (35)
By the look of that selection, Joubert got an advance copy of Paddy O'briens memo that no matter how shithouse the AB props are, no penalties are to be awarded against them... Poor old Stu must have missed that one ::)

Can't understand how Paddy can continue in his position, seems like he's only got one eye and he's sitting on it.
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
Jeez, the conspiracy theorists are alive and well on this thread! Does Clive Woodward post here? He'd well and truly fit in with the above.

Maybe Baxter did get screwed and surely, the video is compelling evidence (although I'm sure thats not ALL the scrums in the match). But part of the scrum is adapting your technique when the ref is pinging you, isn't it?

Take Joubert test 1 out of the equation - what about the other 3 tests?
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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MajorlyRagerly said:
Jeez, the conspiracy theorists are alive and well on this thread! Does Clive Woodward post here? He'd well and truly fit in with the above.

Maybe Baxter did get screwed and surely, the video is compelling evidence (although I'm sure thats not ALL the scrums in the match). But part of the scrum is adapting your technique when the ref is pinging you, isn't it?

Take Joubert test 1 out of the equation - what about the other 3 tests?

Baxter should have been smart enough to adapt to the refs rulings. If he had packed further onto the body after the second penalty he could still be Aus's starting THP.

But he didn't adapt.
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
I never thought that Baxter snapped Woodock. Robinson worked over Tialata a treat, and Baxter got (incorrectly) penalised.

If Baxter wouldn't collapse so much, I'd even rate him as a much superior scrummaging TH to Tialata (ignoring their contributions around the field, of course). Baxter has a build that is close to ideal for a TH prop.
 

JJJ

Vay Wilson (31)
Ash said:
Baxter has a build that is close to ideal for a TH prop.

During the episode devoted to THP on ruggamatrix Ewen McKenzie remarked that Baxter's build actually counts against him because his back is too long. Apparently a long back is a bad thing to have as a prop. Something to do with leverage.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
JJJ said:
Ash said:
Baxter has a build that is close to ideal for a TH prop.

During the episode devoted to THP on ruggamatrix Ewen McKenzie remarked that Baxter's build actually counts against him because his back is too long. Apparently a long back is a bad thing to have as a prop. Something to do with leverage.

I first saw Baxter when he played for Australia A in Tokyo in 2000 or 2001. I commented to a mate that he would not have a successful career because has back was too long. Neither of us could have forecast that he would play 60+ tests.

If you want to see the optimum shape for a THP, try Ben Alexander.
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
Carl Hayman had a long back. He managed to adjust his technique to suit his size, though. Though, Carl Hayman broke the mould a bit of what was thought to be a good TH build.
 

Sandpit Fan

Nev Cottrell (35)
MajorlyRagerly said:
Jeez, the conspiracy theorists are alive and well on this thread! Does Clive Woodward post here? He'd well and truly fit in with the above.
Isn't that what internet forums are all about ;) It was too good a chance to resist!

Dickinson's not the greatest referee, but there have been equally poor performances from others which didn't end in a public bollocking. Paddy's choice of occaision was curious, and leaves him wide open to those sort of questions, regardless of why he did it. For mine, if he had criticisms they should have been dealt with behind closed doors. The whole episode didn't do anyone any good.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Hayman took his long back out of the equation by being extremely strong through the hips and knees. He could bend further than most blokes his height and get low.
 
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