Force v Reds, Round 3 HBF Park, Perth 7:35pm

[Dctarget]

Force paying $3.60 to win which I think is well off.

Force at home, more match fit and settled after two games, no Paisami or Campbell for the Reds. If the Force can get parity in the forwards, I think the game could be theirs. Reds backline suddenly looking a bit inexperienced.

Keen for Tizzano v McReight and White/Donaldson v McDermott/Lyangh.

 

[Yoda]

Force paying $3.60 to win which I think is well off.

Force at home, more match fit and settled after two games, no Paisami or Campbell for the Reds. If the Force can get parity in the forwards, I think the game could be theirs. Reds backline suddenly looking a bit inexperienced.

Keen for Tizzano v McReight and White/Donaldson v McDermott/Lyangh.

Betting mobs aren’t in the buisness of losing money. Force may be missing some players too?

 

[dillyboy]

 

[Braveheart81]

Force paying $3.60 to win which I think is well off.

I've lost every Super Rugby bet I've made so far this year.

Which way would you like me to go?

 

[Yoda]

I've lost every Super Rugby bet I've made so far this year.

Which way would you like me to go?

Not a betting person but with those odds surely the home team … unless they have some casualties. If Tizzano or Williams is out it’s Reds easily.

 

[Dctarget]

I still think Reds are deserved favourites but $3.60 seems off.

Very, very simplistic but on paper (lol from last week):
Front row is equal
Force have better locks
Reds have better backrow
Force have better halves
Centres are equal
Force have better back three

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

I still think Reds are deserved favourites but $3.60 seems off.

Very, very simplistic but on paper (lol from last week):
Front row is equal
Force have better locks
Reds have better backrow
Force have better halves
Centres are equal
Force have better back three

Tight 5 is a question mark though. Starters can match each other but the Reds can keep up the pace and ramp it up with Faessler, Nonggorr. If they get a couple of injury returns they get deeper in the front row as well.

 

[Dctarget]

Tight 5 is a question mark though. Starters can match each other but the Reds can keep up the pace and ramp it up with Faessler, Nonggorr. If they get a couple of injury returns they get deeper in the front row as well.

Reds injuries are hurting them too. They need Salakaia-Loto, Hodgman, Gibbon, JTA (Jeffery Toomaga-Allen) back. And Canham, Smith, Blyth are easily shaded by Swain, Williams, Carter.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Is Sam Carter still what he was for a time? I don't rate Blyth so it's moot I guess. Even though you gave the nod to the Reds backrow the way Uru plays is almost a bonus to their Locks. He's a real hybrid between them.

 

[JRugby2]

Reds by 30

 

[Major Tom]

Is Sam Carter still what he was for a time? I don't rate Blyth so it's moot I guess. Even though you gave the nod to the Reds backrow the way Uru plays is almost a bonus to their Locks. He's a real hybrid between them.

Red's front row overall still better than force. Should be a good battle between Pearce and De Luttis this week.

 

[Ignoto]

I still think Reds are deserved favourites but $3.60 seems off.

Very, very simplistic but on paper (lol from last week):
Front row is equal
Force have better locks
Reds have better backrow
Force have better halves
Centres are equal
Force have better back three

I think that is largely all fair, alebit I don't think White is a better Super Rugby scrum half than Tate and I don't think the Force have much in it for the back 3.

I can see the Reds reserve forwards being the difference that wins the game especially if Liam Wright is back.

 

[JRugby2]

I think that is largely all fair, alebit I don't think White is a better Super Rugby scrum half than Tate and I don't think the Force have much in it for the back 3.

I can see the Reds reserve forwards being the difference that wins the game especially if Liam Wright is back.

I forgot he was back.

40 then.

 

[TSR]

I've lost every Super Rugby bet I've made so far this year.

Which way would you like me to go?

So long as you keep backing the Tahs I’ll be happy.

 

[TSR]

Sully (I think) made the observation last year that the Reds find the Force’s style hard to combat. I think that could still be an issue.

A lot of it will come down to set peice IMO. I suspect Swain’s intimate knowledge of the Brumbies Lineout was a big help to him last week. Hopefully this week the Reds can do well on their own ball and in the scrum.

I also think bringing in all of their Wallabies late hurt the Brumbies last week. Most of them were looked a bit short of a run - probably because they were.

Still - the Force are only going to keep improving and with momentum and a home crowd behind them the odds definitely look off to me.

 

[TSR]

I still think Reds are deserved favourites but $3.60 seems off.

Very, very simplistic but on paper (lol from last week):
Front row is equal
Force have better locks
Reds have better backrow
Force have better halves
Centres are equal
Force have better back three

I’m biased - but I think our starting locks are just as good and Blyth is better than Carter - although both were very good off the bench last week.

The Force’s back row plays a very different role to the Reds backrow but if the games dog fight they’ll more than hold their own.

 

[Yoda]

I forgot he was back.

40 then.

Yeah…. make it 50 and have another XXXX !!

 

[Sully]

All this talk has convinced me. Reds are clearly underdogs. With a wallaby and a try scoring machine on the wings the back three are clearly shit. McReight only had a hand in four tries and scored one himself so he clearly on a downward spiral. Force by 50.

 

[dru]

I see no reason that our scrum won't at least equal the Force and I'm hoping we have the better of the line out. I'm having difficulty thinking through the comparative backlines and I don't like that we are missing Paisami. Ditto (for very different reasons) Jock.

Suggesting how discipline will go between these two teams is a lottery.

I expect the Reds to win, but I'm not calling it anything like the claimed bookie odds.

 

[Mr Pilfer]

Reds will definitely need to hide Lynagh this week from any need to tackle De Crespigny, Tizzano and Pietsch otherwise it will be roadkill