FOLAU?

[HG]

What is TWF?

And yes they did put bums on seats due to the high price defections.
They were average players at best.
I would rather have A. Finger as a center than Rodgers, or Mitchell as a winger that costalottie.

 

[HG]

I am not kidding myself about the money. In fact I have no problems if players move because of the cash.
What I can't stand is the bullshit that is going on regarding what sport they will commit to for their next contract.
Make a decision on the sport then look at the money.
So what happens after his next contract is finished go out and hock himself between the 3 codes again.
The player managers fill their dumb heads with how good they are and can do anything.
I hope he goes to AFL and fails!

That's a bit mean-spirited. Why exactly do people have to follow your rules of when to commit to a sport? Some people aren't parochial about one sport. If a good offer comes along that involves you moving to a different sport, and you happen to like the offer and the sport, why not take it? The amount of people who think by virtue of being sports fans they someone are owed someone elses life and professional choices astonishes me.

sailor, rodgers costalottie tahu, the list goes on.
These half baked peanuts all moved for the cash.
They bought nothing to rugby.

Professional sport is the only job in the world you'd be criticised for accepting a pay rise! Talking in extremes makes you appear a bit silly mate, no offense.

Why don't you reread my post! I have said that I don't have a problem with players moving for money.
What I can't stand is that they and their managers are using cross code movement threats to get more money.
I say if they really want to play rugby then I welcome them but I fear that they are only moving for the cash. Rodgers is quoted that he didn't like playing rugby. If you don't have your heart in it you won't perform.

 

[Epi]

Lote was the best winger in Australia for a number of years. The one player opposition numbers hated seeing on the team sheet.

Sailor had the hang of it by the end and dominated stats for wingers the super 14 for tackle busts and metres gained the year of his untimely demise. He gave the Tah's the go forward and they missed him when he was gone.

Rogers was injury prone but had x-factor and could crack open a game.

Rugby absolutely got value out of them and they gave their best years to the game.

And I haven't even had a drink. (yet).

 

[daz]

Breaking news: Folau has just signed a 3 year, multi-hundred dollar contract to take up a position as specialist "firer" in the Australian Marbles League, with a view to making the National team at the World Marbles Championship at Tinsley Green in England later this year...

:yay

 

[Godfrey]

I always said he had the fingers and patience for marbles.

 

[daz]

But seriously, folks....

This is now listed in the major papers. Seems Folau is officially a free agent and open to all offers.

http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/folau-officially-a-free-agent-20100430-tz27.html

 

[James Buchanan]

I'd be pretty sure he's already made up his mind about where he's going.

 

[TOCC]

well i know the GWS has tabelled a massive offer..

but apparently they reason he wanted to leave the Broncos was because he didnt like the profile that he carried in brisbane, he wasnt a fan of the attention and he wanted to return to Melbourne where rugby is a lower profile and less people know who he is..

Now if he is going to sign for AFL in either AFL or Melbourne or Sydney, then his going to be putting his head out there on the chopping blocks for the publicity hounds

 

[stoff]

My thoughts on it are that he prefers a move back to the storm and is going to wait to see what happens there vis a vis an opening before he comits to something else. An AFL move won't give him the anonimity (sp) he seeks. Likely move to Rebels. Well thats my 2c.

 

[Scarfman]

I reckon Rebels, just pushing them to see how much $ he can get.

 

[Langthorne]

1. Lote was the best winger in Australia for a number of years. The one player opposition numbers hated seeing on the team sheet.

2. Sailor had the hang of it by the end and dominated stats for wingers the super 14 for tackle busts and metres gained the year of his untimely demise. He gave the Tah's the go forward and they missed him when he was gone.

3. Rogers was injury prone but had x-factor and could crack open a game.

4. Rugby absolutely got value out of them and they gave their best years to the game.

5. And I haven't even had a drink. (yet).

1. No and No (although I always hated seeing him on the team sheet)

2. Really?! and for the Wallabies? that was what the ARU were paying for wasn't it?

3. Yes and Yes, but unfortunately X-factor cuts both ways, and often did

4. Not if you mean actually winning anything

5. not even a drop?


If league converts were any good AND the ARU had unlimited funds I could imagine a situation where I might support recruiting them.

As it is there is a definite opportunity cost to every payment the ARU makes, so taking on a player who is at the 'learning to play the sport' stage, especially at high cost, makes no sense to me at all.


Advertising and publicity 'value' is often used to defend these signings, to that I would say:

-do we really want interest in rugby to be based on the involvement of players from other codes, as opposed to say some kind of value intrinsic to the sport?

-how many new supporters did these signings attract?

-how much additional income did they generate?

 

[waratahjesus]

1. Lote was the best winger in Australia for a number of years. The one player opposition numbers hated seeing on the team sheet.

2. Sailor had the hang of it by the end and dominated stats for wingers the super 14 for tackle busts and metres gained the year of his untimely demise. He gave the Tah's the go forward and they missed him when he was gone.

3. Rogers was injury prone but had x-factor and could crack open a game.

4. Rugby absolutely got value out of them and they gave their best years to the game.

5. And I haven't even had a drink. (yet).

1. No and No (although I always hated seeing him on the team sheet)

2. Really?! and for the Wallabies? that was what the ARU were paying for wasn't it?

3. Yes and Yes, but unfortunately X-factor cuts both ways, and often did

4. Not if you mean actually winning anything

5. not even a drop?


If league converts were any good AND the ARU had unlimited funds I could imagine a situation where I might support recruiting them.

As it is there is a definite opportunity cost to every payment the ARU makes, so taking on a player who is at the 'learning to play the sport' stage, especially at high cost, makes no sense to me at all.


Advertising and publicity 'value' is often used to defend these signings, to that I would say:

-do we really want interest in rugby to be based on the involvement of players from other codes, as opposed to say some kind of value intrinsic to the sport?

-how many new supporters did these signings attract?

-how much additional income did they generate?

friday night NRL april 23rd 680,000
saturday night super 14 24th 190,240

i would say if three times the people are watching the other game on television, not to mention the press coverage if a thousand people switch over the channel to see him play next year and half of that do it on a regular basis then that player alone is worth a top up how many people sit at home and go, ohhh, better watch the rugby i hear peter hynes makes up for his lack of pace with a jinking run that often beats the first defender but ultimately leads to nothing.

 

[Epi]

-how much additional income did they generate?

It undoubtedly helped make the rugby world cup final in 2003 the second most watched Australian TV event this century by appealing to League fans who otherwise probably given it a miss (over 4 million viewers!). It left the ARU a huge surplus of cash that they subsequently squandered. How much additional income? Fair to say a bit...

 

[Langthorne]

-how much additional income did they generate?

It undoubtedly helped make the rugby world cup final in 2003 the second most watched Australian TV event this century by appealing to League fans who otherwise probably given it a miss (over 4 million viewers!). It left the ARU a huge surplus of cash that they subsequently squandered. How much additional income? Fair to say a bit...

"undoubtedly", "a fair bit" ie "no idea, but I'm prepared to speculate wildly" - the RWC final would have been popular anyway, the profits from the popularity of the world cup (including games not involving the mungos) would have been there anyway.

WJ - your figures are for NRL supporters watching NRL matches, there is no correlation between that and supporters who would cross over with a mercenary player.

500 extra supporters is worth the ARU paying the guy $100000?! each supporter would have to generate $2000 each to break even

Mungos don't generate extra publicity for rugby - they just offer the media an opportunity to extend league coverage into rugby.

 

[Godfrey]

-how much additional income did they generate?

It undoubtedly helped make the rugby world cup final in 2003 the second most watched Australian TV event this century by appealing to League fans who otherwise probably given it a miss (over 4 million viewers!). It left the ARU a huge surplus of cash that they subsequently squandered. How much additional income? Fair to say a bit...

Mungos don't generate extra publicity for rugby - they just offer the media an opportunity to extend league coverage into rugby.

That's ridiculously stupid. Wendell Sailor, as one example, definitely brought bigger crowds to Suncorp Stadium. Fair enough if people hate league, but it's ridiculous to think an athlete is of no value match or marketing-wise just because they've been "dirtied" by a game you were raised not to like.

 

[Epi]

"undoubtedly", "a fair bit" ie "no idea, but I'm prepared to speculate wildly" - the RWC final would have been popular anyway, the profits from the popularity of the world cup (including games not involving the mungos) would have been there anyway.

Now you are being a dick. :thumb

 

[scrubber]

Bloody crazy courting this bloke - read in the Courier mail this morning that AFL want to pay the bloke $1,000,000 a year - that'll buy a new Bongo Van and acoustic guitar as well