Fantasy Tri-Nations Tournament

[Moses]

How bout including the current warts and all fantasy team, as above, in this weeks writeup and check the reaction. Maybe we could revisit it in week 10 or so if there's interest.

Interesting point on Genia, the awesome stuff he does is perhaps not worth a lot of fantasy points?

 

[cheezel]

Is there a NZ or SA site where they do there own fantasy comp. I may be wrong, but I always thought the foxsports site was a lot kinder to the Australian players in the fantasy points department.

 

[matty_k]

I thought it was stats based.

 

[Newb]

How bout including the current warts and all fantasy team, as above, in this weeks writeup and check the reaction. Maybe we could revisit it in week 10 or so if there's interest.

Interesting point on Genia, the awesome stuff he does is perhaps not worth a lot of fantasy points?

aye aye :salute

matty k, i might steal your list since it includes the points. nice touch.

 

[matty_k]

Feel free. It was why I put it up.

It will be interesting to see how it holds up to the selection process by the powers that be at the end of the season.

 

[James Buchanan]

Genia has had a bye, in points per game Will is 23.6 to Luke's 20

It would be interesting to see who makes the teams on a points per game basis. Disregarding players who've played ? 2 games, I'd venture.

 

[matty_k]

I think to be fair you would have to look solely on the points of the round. Even if they have only played one or two games.

 

[James Buchanan]

I think to be fair you would have to look solely on the points of the round. Even if they have only played one or two games.

Could you explain what you mean by this? :nta:

 

[matty_k]

Sorry misread what you said. I thought you meant a team based on each round. Not a team based upon average per round.

We shouldn't need to do this though as it will sort itself out by the end of the season.
But it would be interesting.

 

[Moses]

If we start taking byes into account then we should potentially also look at the quality of opposition, quite easy to overengineer these things!

Edit: but as Matty said, it'll sort itself out by week 14

 

[Newb]

yeah i think just the "as is" score is fine

that way by the end it will really be a body of work so to speak. otherwise horwill will probably still be at the top come the end, and well that's just silly.

 

[matty_k]

This is based on the round. I followed the team run on players lists from round five.
The reserves may need some tweaking as I just picked the player who then scored the most for each category from each country.



PositionWallabiespointsSpringboksPointsAll BlacksPoints

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15​

Benn Robinson
Tatafu Polota-Nau
Sekope Kepu
Dean Mumm
Kane Douglas
Rocky Elsom
Phil Waugh
Ben Mowen
Patrick Phibbs
Matt Giteau
Nick Cummins
James O’Connor
Ryan Cross
Drew Mitchell
Sosene Anesi

21
31
20
19
25
40
32
27
24
34
16
25
17
41
18
​

Janse van Rensburg
Bismarck du Plessis
Brok Harris
Francois Louw
Andries Bekker
Schalk Burger
Dewald Potgieter
Duane Vermeulen
Ruan Pienaar
Morné Steyn
Bryan Habana
Doppies La Grange
Jaque Fourie
Stefan Terblanche
Joe Pietersen

11
62
27
17
28
26
12
26
25
15
24
28
57
35
24
​

John Schwalger
Ti'i Paulo
Neemia Tialata
Jeremy Thrush
Hayden Triggs
Jerome Kaino
Jonathan Poff
Adam Thomson
Willi Heinz
Colin Slade
Rudi Wulf
Ryan Crotty
Rene Ranger
Joe Rokocoko
Isaia Toeava

20
33
17
29
17
31
38
43
25
27
10
40
59
49
35
​

Total

390​

417​

473​

16
17
18
19
20
21
22​

Huia Edmonds
Salesi Ma'afu
Nathan Sharpe
Matt Hodgson
Brett Sheehan
Daniel Halangahu
Mark Bartholomeusz

26
20
24
31
20
29
14
​

Hannes Franklin
Jannie du Plessis
F. van der Merwe
Ryan Kankowski
Dewaldt Duvenage
Adrian Jacobs
G. van der Heever

32
20
20
26
0
19
21
​

Jason Rutledge
John Afoa
Sam Whitelock
Rodney So'oialo
Tyson Keats
Ma'a Nonu
Ben Smith

23
13
15
35
17
19
47
​

Total

554​

555​

642​

I think I am just going to upload the excel file from now on.

 

[DPK]

This is based on the round. I followed the team run on players lists from round five.
The reserves may need some tweaking as I just picked the player who then scored the most for each category from each country.



PositionWallabiespointsSpringboksPointsAll BlacksPoints

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15​

Benn Robinson
Tatafu Polota-Nau
Sekope Kepu
Dean Mumm
Kane Douglas
Rocky Elsom
Phil Waugh
Ben Mowen
Patrick Phibbs
Matt Giteau
Nick Cummins
James O’Connor
Ryan Cross
Drew Mitchell
Sosene Anesi

21
31
20
19
25
40
32
27
24
34
16
25
17
41
18
​

Janse van Rensburg
Bismarck du Plessis
Brok Harris
Francois Louw
Andries Bekker
Schalk Burger
Dewald Potgieter
Duane Vermeulen
Ruan Pienaar
Morné Steyn
Bryan Habana
Doppies La Grange
Jaque Fourie
Stefan Terblanche
Joe Pietersen

11
62
27
17
28
26
12
26
25
15
24
28
57
35
24
​

John Schwalger
Ti'i Paulo
Neemia Tialata
Jeremy Thrush
Hayden Triggs
Jerome Kaino
Jonathan Poff
Adam Thomson
Willi Heinz
Colin Slade
Rudi Wulf
Ryan Crotty
Rene Ranger
Joe Rokocoko
Isaia Toeava

20
33
17
29
17
31
38
43
25
27
10
40
59
49
35
​

Total

390​

417​

473​

16
17
18
19
20
21
22​

Huia Edmonds
Salesi Ma'afu
Nathan Sharpe
Matt Hodgson
Brett Sheehan
Daniel Halangahu
Mark Bartholomeusz

26
20
24
31
20
29
14
​

Hannes Franklin
Jannie du Plessis
F. van der Merwe
Ryan Kankowski
Dewaldt Duvenage
Adrian Jacobs
G. van der Heever

32
20
20
26
0
19
21
​

Jason Rutledge
John Afoa
Sam Whitelock
Rodney So'oialo
Tyson Keats
Ma'a Nonu
Ben Smith

23
13
15
35
17
19
47
​

Total

554​

555​

642​

I think I am just going to upload the excel file from now on.

So if the Reds Squad were killed in a plane crash (God forbid) this would be the Wallabies team.

 

[matty_k]

Purely based on Fantasy points.

Hang on. I need to drop Anesi since he can't play for the Wallabies.

This is based on the round. I followed the team run on players lists from round five.
The reserves may need some tweaking as I just picked the player who then scored the most for each category from each country.



PositionWallabiespointsSpringboksPointsAll BlacksPoints

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15​

Benn Robinson
Tatafu Polota-Nau
Sekope Kepu
Dean Mumm
Kane Douglas
Rocky Elsom
Phil Waugh
Ben Mowen
Patrick Phibbs
Matt Giteau
Nick Cummins
James O’Connor
Ryan Cross
Drew Mitchell
Mark Bartholomeusz

21
31
20
19
25
40
32
27
24
34
16
25
17
41
14​

Janse van Rensburg
Bismarck du Plessis
Brok Harris
Francois Louw
Andries Bekker
Schalk Burger
Dewald Potgieter
Duane Vermeulen
Ruan Pienaar
Morné Steyn
Bryan Habana
Doppies La Grange
Jaque Fourie
Stefan Terblanche
Joe Pietersen

11
62
27
17
28
26
12
26
25
15
24
28
57
35
24
​

John Schwalger
Ti'i Paulo
Neemia Tialata
Jeremy Thrush
Hayden Triggs
Jerome Kaino
Jonathan Poff
Adam Thomson
Willi Heinz
Colin Slade
Rudi Wulf
Ryan Crotty
Rene Ranger
Joe Rokocoko
Isaia Toeava

20
33
17
29
17
31
38
43
25
27
10
40
59
49
35
​

Total

390​

417​

473​

16
17
18
19
20
21
22​

Huia Edmonds
Salesi Ma'afu
Nathan Sharpe
Matt Hodgson
Brett Sheehan
Daniel Halangahu
Adam Ashley-Cooper

26
20
24
31
20
29
11
​

Hannes Franklin
Jannie du Plessis
F. van der Merwe
Ryan Kankowski
Dewaldt Duvenage
Adrian Jacobs
G. van der Heever

32
20
20
26
0
19
21
​

Jason Rutledge
John Afoa
Sam Whitelock
Rodney So'oialo
Tyson Keats
Ma'a Nonu
Ben Smith

23
13
15
35
17
19
47
​

Total

547​

555​

642​

 

[matty_k]

Fantasy Tri Nations teams of round 7



PositionWallabiespointsSpringboksPointsAll BlacksPoints

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15​

Ben Alexander
Tatafu Polota-Nau
Tim Fairbrother
Dean Mumm
Nathan Sharpe
Ben McCalman
Michael Hooper
Stephen Hoiles
Will Genia
Daniel Halangahu
Scott Staniforth
James O'Connor
Digby Ioane
Pat MacCabe
Peter Hynes

12
39
23
48
30
33
17
24
36
57
16
31
56
25
37
​

Gurthrö Steenkamp
Adriaan Strauss
Wian du Preez
Danie Rossouw
F. van der Merwe
Cobus Grobbelaar
Derick Minnie
Pierre Spies
JP Joubert
Morné Steyn
JP Pietersen
Wynand Olivier
Jaco Pretorius
Wigan Pekeur
Patrick Lambie

23
22
11
21
20
41
25
65
24
39
33
25
11
54
26
​

Arizona Taumalolo
Hika Elliot
John Afoa
Jeremy Thrush
Callum Retallick
Victor Vito
Tanerau Latimer
Steven Setephano
Brendon Leonard
Stephen Donald
Rudi Wulf
Ma'a Nonu
Rene Ranger
Lelia Masaga
Isaia Toeava

20
23
8
26
27
31
27
25
25
22
37
57
49
16
48
​

Total

484​

440​

441​

16
17
18
19
20
21
22
​

Saia Fainga'a
Nic Henderson
Tom Hockings
Scott Higginbotham
Patrick Phibbs
Matt Giteau
Adam Ashley-Cooper

31
10
29
27
32
27
22
​

Gary Botha
Jannie du Plessis
Waltie Vermeulen
Jacques Botes
Francois Hougaard
Walter Venter
Michael Killian

19
19
19
32
22
10
25
​

Keven Mealamu
Nathan White
Anthony Boric
Liam Messam
Richard Kahui
Robbie Robinson
Isreal Dagg

23
7
23
22
42
19
47
​

Total

662​

586​

624​

The FoxSports page still says the points are preliminary but I don't think they will change too much.

 

[matty_k]

Fantasy Tri Nations Teams overall



PositionWallabiespointsSpringboksPointsAll BlacksPoints

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15​

Ben Alexander
Tatafu Polota-Nau
Al Baxter
Dean Mumm
Nathan Sharpe
Rocky Elsom
George Smith
Wycliff Palu
Will Genia
Quade Cooper
Drew Mitchell
James O'Connor
Digby Ione
Lachlan Turner
Adam Ashley-Cooper

142
249
87
155
122
186
140
150
154
200
214
157
186
117
125
​

Tendai Mtawarira
Bismarck du Plessis
Brok Harris
Francois Louw
Andries Bekker
Cobus Grobbelaar
Juan Smith
Pierre Spies
Francois Hougaard
Morné Steyn
Joe Pietersen
Doppies La Grange
Wynand Olivier
G. van der Heever
Earl Rose

63
163
100
96
143
159
128
171
138
269
140
242
206
127
96
​

Arizona Taumalolo
Andrew Hore
John Afoa
Sam Whitelock
Michael Paterson
Victor Vito
Thomas Waldrom
Adam Thomson
Alby Mathewson
Daniel Carter
Sitiveni Sivivatu
Michael Hobbs
Rene Ranger
David Smith
Israel Dagg

74
148
88
93
122
137
100
148
95
151
161
137
225
158
248
​

Total

2384​

2241​

2085​

16
17
18
19
20
21
22
​

Stephen Moore
Benn Robinson
Kane Douglas
Stephen Hoiles
Luke Burgess
Daniel Halangahu
Pat McCabe

136
85
104
135
125
191
116
​

Hannes Franklin
Jannie du Plessis
Steven Sykes
Ryan Kankowski
Rory Kockott
Jaque Fourie
Sireli Naqelevuki

145
57
91
156
75
123
93
​

Keven Mealamu
Neemia Tialata
Anthony Boric
Liam Messam
Piri Weepu
Ma'a Nonu
Cory Jane

134
62
103
128
94
114
132
​

Total

3276​

2981​

2852​

The FoxSports page still says the points are preliminary but I don't think they will change too much.

Australia
There has been some movement. Genia and Burgo swapped, Sharpe and Douglas swapped. Carter has been completely dropped with O'connor taking his spot at inside centre. The rest just cemented their spot.

South Africa
Pierre Spies has muscled his way back into the starting XV demoting Kankowski to the bench and dropping Vermeulen and Naqelevuki has replaced Mapoe in the reserves.

New Zealand
Taumalolo has forced Schwalger out of the side and Vito has done the same to Braid. There has been a reshuffle in the backline. Dagg has moved to fullback, Sivivatu to 11 and Michael Hobbs has been promoted to inside centre. It is a basically new reserves bench.

 

[TheRiddler]

Great work. Looks just like my team - not!!!

Given that a certain G Smith has ruled himself ineligible for international jury, should he be in the team? Who's coming second in the #7 spot?

 

[matty_k]

Phil Waugh on 109