England v Wallabies, Twickenham, Sun 10th Nov 2:10AEDT / 1:10AEST

[scrans21]

Fuck it, balls to the wall. Schmidt it in.

My team:

1. Bell
2. Faesslar
3. Tupou
4. Frost
5. Salakai-Loto
6. Valetini
7. McReight
8. Wilson (c)
9. Gordon
10. Lolesio
11. Pietsch
12. Sua'ali'i*
13. Ikitau
14. Kellaway
15. Wright

16. Paenga-Amosa
17. Kailea
18. Ala'alatoa
19. Skelton
20. Williams
21. McDermott
22. Donaldson
23. Kerevi

 

[PhilClinton]

Is it, though?

I guess Kerevi isn't so fit.

It's interesting because all the media I've seen seemed to be Kerevi training with what I would have thought is the starting backline.

 

[drewprint]

Fuck it, balls to the wall. Schmidt it in.

My team:

1. Bell
2. Faesslar
3. Tupou
4. Frost
5. Salakai-Loto
6. Valetini
7. McReight
8. Wilson (c)
9. Gordon
10. Lolesio
11. Pietsch
12. Sua'ali'i*
13. Ikitau
14. Kellaway
15. Wright

16. Paenga-Amosa
17. Kailea
18. Ala'alatoa
19. Skelton
20. Williams
21. McDermott
22. Donaldson
23. Kerevi

Dunno if that’s quite what I would go with, but I like it, and man that’s a seriously heavy duty bench.

 

[chasmac]

From all reports Sua'ali'i’i is more mature & composed than your average young footballer.

I thought last years disaster with Gordon showed exactly the perils of throwing players in to early but, some have it at that age and the vast majority of reports I’ve read about Sua'ali'i’i is that he is a level above both physically and mentally than most his age.

I don’t expect his path to not have a few slip ups but happy to back the judgement of Schmidt.

Of course Doran could turn out to be wrong too and maybe he isn’t starting.

Could Carter have been treated any worse?
He was abandoned the minute Quade was dropped.
Hung out to dry by Eddie Jones.
Reminded me of the front row debacle when Eddie had the wallabies the first time around.
Coaching should be more than getting the team in a huddle and saying " Don't be rubbish out there today."

 

[Slim 293]

Could Carter have been treated any worse?
He was abandoned the minute Quade was dropped.

Not exactly an accurate timeline of events...

 

[LeCheese]

Not exactly an accurate timeline of events...

Not to be presumptive, but I think @chasmac is implying that forgoing the experience of Quade (and Foley) was the first step in Eddie Jones' self-published worst-seller How to Abandon Your Developing Flyhalf

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Making a 10 with one good season behind him where the side still came 2nd last the complete controller of a Test side in a WC looks to have also been a bold move.

 

[TSR]

Not exactly an accurate timeline of events...

No - but I think Chasmac’s general point - that Eddie Jones made a complete hash of handling Gordon, is a fair one.

I think Rennie’s treatment of Lolesio left a bit to be desired too.

 

[BDA]

Any idea what time the team is named?

 

[Wilson]

Any idea what time the team is named?

midnight AEDT

 

[stillmissit]

Is it, though?

I guess Kerevi isn't so fit.

Either that or he wants him at his best for the 2 must wins, particularly Scotland which is no gimme.

 

[stillmissit]

If only there were some smart rugby heads travelling with the team checking which players looked good enough and who didn't. /s

I'd say Schmidt is a big enough rugby head for me..

 

[stillmissit]

It's interesting because all the media I've seen seemed to be Kerevi training with what I would have thought is the starting backline.

Is all this banter a ruse do you think?.

 

[Strewthcobber]

midnight AEDT

I genuinely don't understand why we always do this. Name the side at 8am UK time of you have to, at least it would generate a bit of interest when it gets announced.

 

[Dctarget]

I genuinely don't understand why we always do this. Name the side at 8am UK time of you have to, at least it would generate a bit of interest when it gets announced.

we're doing at that last possible moment is why

 

[Derpus]

Either that or he wants him at his best for the 2 must wins, particularly Scotland which is no gimme.

There are no must wins in this tour IMO. We are underdogs in every match.

 

[Lyall]

It's true and there hasn't been this much general FTA coverage in years.

Have people at work that know I watch Rugby asking how is he going to go? Now, they won't get up and watch but are still consuming media on Rugby.

I couldn't see this game on free to air, have I got that right or would Judas and the black messiah indeed get higher ratings?

 

[Strewthcobber]

I couldn't see this game on free to air, have I got that right or would Judas and the black messiah indeed get higher ratings?

The game is at 2:10 am in Sydney. Nothing gets good ratings at that time. Nine bank on anyone silly and desperate enough to wake up to watch it is also silly enough to pay $27 / month for the privilege

 

[Slim 293]

Wallabies team to play England at Allianz Stadium in London on Saturday November 9 at 3:10pm GMT/2:10am AEDT (Sunday)


1. Angus Bell (33 Tests) – Hunters Hill Rugby

2. Matt Faessler (12 Tests) – USQ Saints

3. Taniela Tupou (56 Tests) – Brothers Rugby

4. Nick Frost (21 Tests) – Hornsby Lions

5. Jeremy Williams (8 Tests) – Wahroonga Tigers

6. Rob Valetini (48 Tests) – Harlequin Junior Rugby Club

7. Fraser McReight (22 Tests) – Albany Creek Brumbies

8. Harry Wilson (c) (19 Tests) – Gunnedah Red Devils

9. Jake Gordon (27 Tests) – Canterbury Juniors

10. Noah Lolesio (26 Tests) – Tuggeranong Vikings

11. Dylan Pietsch (4 Tests) – Leeton Phantoms

12. Len Ikitau (35 Tests) – Tuggeranong Vikings

13. Joseph-Aukuso Sua'ali'i* – The Kings School

14. Andrew Kellaway (35 Tests) – Hunters Hill Rugby

15. Tom Wright (33 Tests) – Clovelly Eagles

Substitutes

16. Brandon Paenga-Amosa (16 Tests) – Southern Districts

17. James Slipper (140 Tests)– Bond Pirates

18. Allan Ala'alatoa (76 Tests) – West Harbour Juniors

19. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (37 Tests) - Randwick

20. Langi Gleeson (9 Tests) – Harbord Harlequins

21. Tate McDermott (37 Tests) – Flinders Rugby Club

22. Ben Donaldson (13 Tests) – Clovelly Eagles

23. Max Jorgensen (3 Tests) – Balmain Wolves

*denotes uncapped

 

[Steve_Grey]

Wallabies team to play England at Allianz Stadium in London on Saturday November 9 at 3:10pm GMT/2:10am AEDT (Sunday)


1. Angus Bell (33 Tests) – Hunters Hill Rugby

2. Matt Faessler (12 Tests) – USQ Saints

3. Taniela Tupou (56 Tests) – Brothers Rugby

4. Nick Frost (21 Tests) – Hornsby Lions

5. Jeremy Williams (8 Tests) – Wahroonga Tigers

6. Rob Valetini (48 Tests) – Harlequin Junior Rugby Club

7. Fraser McReight (22 Tests) – Albany Creek Brumbies

8. Harry Wilson (c) (19 Tests) – Gunnedah Red Devils

9. Jake Gordon (27 Tests) – Canterbury Juniors

10. Noah Lolesio (26 Tests) – Tuggeranong Vikings

11. Dylan Pietsch (4 Tests) – Leeton Phantoms

12. Len Ikitau (35 Tests) – Tuggeranong Vikings

13. Joseph-Aukuso Sua'ali'i* – The Kings School

14. Andrew Kellaway (35 Tests) – Hunters Hill Rugby

15. Tom Wright (33 Tests) – Clovelly Eagles

Substitutes

16. Brandon Paenga-Amosa (16 Tests) – Southern Districts

17. James Slipper (140 Tests)– Bond Pirates

18. Allan Ala'alatoa (76 Tests) – West Harbour Juniors

19. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (37 Tests) - Randwick

20. Langi Gleeson (9 Tests) – Harbord Harlequins

21. Tate McDermott (37 Tests) – Flinders Rugby Club

22. Ben Donaldson (13 Tests) – Clovelly Eagles

23. Max Jorgensen (3 Tests) – Balmain Wolves

*denotes uncapped

Punters not impressed - Australia odds have blown out.

12.5 points head start and 6.5 for the win.