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Dwyer speaks truth

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daz

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Gagger said:
...Bob's take was that they were either just trying to placate him....or there were clearly other issues in getting these core elements translated, leading Bob to think the assistant coaches weren't cutting it....
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Two points here:

1) No-one likes being told by the previous boss where they are going wrong.
2) I'll bet you a penny to a pound that JW crosses the street from now on when he see's BD coming the other way....
 
Thomond78

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Colin Windon (37)
MajorlyRagerly said:
Clearly you've forgotten Barnes gate then T78.
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I haven't. And it's a perfect example of how he fucks up.

First off, he didn't engage with the real problem (giving an inexperienced ref a major quarter-final with much more experienced refs on the touch-line, when he'd have blooded him better in another quarter - if not the 3rd/4th play off). Second, ignored the fact that it was the TJ cocked up. Third, went on the rampage telling the whole of NZ they were whinging beeotchs, and to suck it up, which then led to the fourth stage; for the next eighteen months, Barnes was wildly over-promoted and getting games he was frankly awful in, just because Paddy had painted himself into a corner.

Whereas, if he'd just said that they were looking at things, and the assessors would report in due course in the normal manner, and nothing more, it would all have blown over. The Dickinson affair was the same; say nothing, let the coaches shout, nod, say you've heard what they're saying and will examine things, and then let it all blow over without getting stuck in the mire yourself.

A controversial ref is a bad ref. A controversial head of reffing is a bad head of reffing. For me, the worst thing he did was wading into the ELV dispute - a ref should have no opinion on the laws, but should just implement the damn things - and then coming out with his rubbish about "hands-in isn't hands-in, no matter what the laws say, because... Well, because I say so." That little beauty, unasked for, fucked up rugby royally world-wide until the new ruck interpretations binned it and brought back the old laws. No-one's fault but his.
 
Scarfman

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Knitter of the Scarf
Speaking of Bob, Paddy not happy:

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/TriNations/New-twist-in-referee-debacle-20100805

Bloemfontein – The refereeing debacle in the Tri-Nations has taken a new twist with a possible court case on the horizon and players and referees now openly questioning the application of the laws by certain referees.

According to a news3.co.nz report, International Rugby Board (IRB) referees chief Paddy O’Brien is planning legal steps against former Wallaby coach Bob Dwyer.

He is even demanding a public apology from Dwyer after the former Wallaby coach accused him of being partial to the All Blacks.

Dwyer said that O’Brien only voices his concern about performances when the referee disadvantages New Zealand as was the case last year when Italy annihilated New Zealand’s scrum in Milan.
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Damn! Was hoping Paddy would call me out.
 
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Muttonbird

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Scotty said:
Pretty hard to clean out a guy that is lying on the ground between you and the tackled player. Bringing back rucking might help a lot though.
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If the defending player makes no attempt to roll away it's illegal and should be penalised accordingly.
 
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Muttonbird

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The guy that commentates those "All Blacks are cheats" YouTube clips sounds like a complete poof does he not?
 
TheRiddler

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Dave Cowper (27)
mark_s said:
Gagger, you may need to go back and pick up those names you dropped back there in that post...
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There are rumours that a future visitor to the UK and the Gagger locale carries even more prestige and rugby knowledge........;)
 
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Muttonbird

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Scarfman said:
That would be me, muttonbrain. You're confusing education with sexuality.
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Oh. Whoops! Not educated in the art of being impartial evidently.

Seeing you are such an expert at picking apart play for supposed illegalities, could you please do a clip for Wallaby fouls around the ruck and one for the Springbok's too? And when doing the commentary could you give them the same incredulous, admoninshing tone you gave to the AB's one?
 
Scarfman

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Muttonbrain, in what way is your impartiality related to the idea that I "sound like a complete poof"? Mate, you are too stupid to argue with. Say what you like about rugby, one more about me personally and you're gone.
 
Gnostic

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Mark Ella (57)
I knew Tommy when I was a little tacker and my old man worked with the Newtown RL boys (when they all had real jobs). Contrary to popular myth he sounded the same then and was a hard bugger then as well.
 
Gagger

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Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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Scarfman said:
And besides, Gagger sounds heaps more gayer than me.
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Actually scarfie, I think you'll find I've been referred to as the Clive James of Aussie rugby commentary, ahem.

At least Kearnsy didn't refer to me as "Some South African bloke" on national television!

And Muttonbird, what a wanker!
 
Scarfman

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Haven't seen it yet. The popular opinion is that I'm a gay South African that doesn't know the rules.

Still, I've got 20,000 hits on YouTube :thumb
 
Gnostic

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
I was wondering if you heard the "some South Afrcan fella" comment. Might drop a post to Kearnsie on the Fox website to read GGR as his weekly research for commentating.
 
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