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Don't expect a good old fashioned Aussie ambush

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disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
Ambush was always a word used when describing an Aussie victory over the All Blacks but I'm not expecting any ambush this weekend as coming up with different strategies & real game plan isn't really Robbie Deans strong point.

I loved it when it was clear that the Aussie teams coached by Macqueen & even Eddie Jones had set up a gameplan or ambush that totally stumped the Kiwis.

It was always good to hear comments from Kiwi commentators saying how Australia were the smartest rugby team.

I'm not saying we can't win this weekend but leading up to a big game against the All Blacks I think Robbie's "play what's in front of you" just isn't enough.

I hope Deans proves me wrong & the Wallabies show up with some cunning plan which is better than Baldricks from Blackadder but I'm not holding my breath.
 
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TOCC

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playing whats in front of you = reactive
ambush = proactive

You may have a point
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
I was going to mention Link & the Reds ability to change gameplans week in week out.
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
I was going to mention Link & the Reds ability to change gameplans week in week out.

Putting aside player talent and its application etc, these astute and largely highly effective, varied game plans designed by Link and his specialist coaches (let's not forget them, because no one who matters at the Reds does) were the decisive contributing factor to the Reds' 2011 success.

As posters have noted, great game plans are indeed all about 'aggressive pro-activity' designed to ambush, unsettle, remove comfort zones and typical assumptions about how an opposing team will play, and gradually build the type of pressure that yields a combination of errors, uncharacteristic lack of composure, and broken combinations that result in points for the shrewder team. Partially a successful mind game, executed by rugby players.
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
They had a general game plan and they played what was in front of them.

True.

But the game plans did vary considerably from the all out kicking against the Stormers to the ball in hand run at all cost against the Bulls & Blues.

I'd like to see that Wallabies pick & drive in the forwards a lot more this week rather than just loop around the corner as it was clear the All Blacks were not committing numbers at the breakdown.
 

#1 Tah

Chilla Wilson (44)
Link's been there 2 years. What he's done in 2 years has been pretty special, but I'd like to see him play the long game in Queensland before he get's the top job.

If this is going to turn into another link love-in, i just wanna get in first and say he was taught all he knew at NSW. Just sayin'


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DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
It always starts with very honest and worthy praise. Then the hyperbole starts to grow.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
If this is going to turn into another link love-in, i just wanna get in first and say he was taught all he knew at NSW. Just sayin'


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From a coaching perspective, he was an assitant coach with the Wallabies under Macqueen and Jones before that.

Golden Brumbies-Wallabies era for the win!
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
If this is going to turn into another link love-in, i just wanna get in first and say he was taught all he knew at NSW. Just sayin'

Just wrong. Study Link's own 2010 and 2011 articles and writings, by his own admission, his framework for thinking about the game, its fans, the 'role of exciting, entertaining play', the role of a rugby brand, giving his players more freedom of expression, etc, has altered considerably over this period. I don't want to buy into another puerile Tahs-Reds nonsense game, but, really, the 'taught all he knew at NSW' line is simply inaccurate and misleading. Even if it were vaguely true, it's a matter of record that by 2008 the NSWRU decided to reject 'all that he knew' and send him off to the other worlds. And who was it btw, that 'taught' him 'all that he knew' at NSW as though none of Link's contributions were really his own?

And I resent 'Link love-in', it's not amusing in this context. The idea is purely to intelligently learn from what is demonstably successful and has delivered positive results - Australia has had no meaningful rugby trophy-ware since 2004. Australian rugby needs hard successes, not more aspirations, theories and excuses.

Link's game plans for the Reds have often been the very definition of successful, innovative 'ambushes' of the type that disco described so competently in his opening post, and it was a highly relevant and considered post IMO.
 
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Waylon

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Link would have won trophies at the Tahs if they had the cattle.

They didn't
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
As if, the Tahs had players like Vickerman, Waugh, Palu, Lote, Robinson at the peak of their career, and a bunch of other good youngsters who are now Wallaby superstars.
 
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