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Cooper - Good or Great rugby player - discuss.

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Bill Watson (15)
Sully said:
I'd be surprised if Cooper wasn't already on a higher wage than he could earn in the NRL. I think his strong relationships with Reds players and staff along with living close to his family will keep him there.



Going off twitter, the money he wins playing paper, scissors, rock against Digby and The Fingers should keep him amongst the top paid. I wonder if they would have to include that under the salary cap if he went to league? Third party deal?
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Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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George Smith (75)
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Jnor said:
Gags I don't where you got that picrture, but I'm pretty sure Deans doesn't have and in tray and an out tray.

He just sorts what's in front of him
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In tray = "Deposit in belief"
Out tray = "Learning Experience"
 
waratahjesus

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Greg Davis (50)
Sounds like Nuci will be having an inquiry into the trays, before appointing his own trays to replace the previous one
 
twenty seven

twenty seven

Tom Lawton (22)
Interesting article in the Sunday Mail concerning Quades mother and the abuse he got in NZ. Sounds very upset and who can blame her. Far too over the top the crowds. Hope he does come back stronger and more Aussie orientated, good for the Reds and the Wallabies. Look out AB's!
 
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David Codey (61)
Can't blame mum for being upset, however QC (Quade Cooper) did play the pantomime villain.
Now he knows the villain always gets booed.
Should be a big learning experience for him, might actually be the best thing that has happened to him long term.
 
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Dave Cowper (27)
Interesting article in the Sunday Mail concerning Quades mother and the abuse he got in NZ. Sounds very upset and who can blame her. Far too over the top the crowds. Hope he does come back stronger and more Aussie orientated, good for the Reds and the Wallabies. Look out AB's!
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Can't agree with you on that one. Didn't see him weraing a cloak and sneaking around at night attacking someone. He actually kept his mouth shut. The few digs with Ritchie didn't deserve that.
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I wonder what Quade and Richie's mums think about the head kneeing.
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Give it up. All of you. It's over. Faults to be found on both sides. Time to move on. Lessons learnt by all.
 
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Cooper limps from disappointing campaign
Gordon Bray, AAP
October 23, 2011, 12:31 pm 11 Commentstweet0EmailPrint
Quade Cooper's World Cup campaign unravelled into a modern day sporting tragedy. To see him finally struck down of his own volition against Wales, attempting another trademark act of deception, was a cruel twist of fate.

In the words of All Black great Stu Wilson, the gifted fly-half had dared to touch New Zealand's 'family jewel'. The running battle in Tri Nations with Richie McCaw had backfired so spectacularly that even some Aussie fans booed him.

At least the crowd at Eden Park on Friday night showed compassion when he was ultimately assisted from the field, bewildered and broken.

What a shame this 'public enemy number one' rubbish - nurtured with such relish by the Kiwi media - was not nipped in the bud. Cooper has to live with that one but I have no doubt his time over here could have been very different.

Even when he teed off above the cliff face in the semi-final against the All Blacks, he missed one final shot at redemption. Had his late grandfather Nesbit still been alive, I'm certain he would have endorsed the following act of defiance.

Imagine the global uproar if Quade,supported by teammates, had performed a Ka Mate Haka challenge of his own, straight after the All Blacks' Haka? I discussed this question with former Maori MP (Moana Pasifika) Tuariki Delamere and his reaction was overwhelming.

"With Quade's Maori heritage, he would have spooked the All Blacks, diffused their psychological advantage, won over the Kiwi crowd and taken the weight of the world off his own shoulders." (And not kicked out on the full?)

Ironically, Australia's last outing in New Zealand only highlighted the folly of not picking Berrick Barnes in the games that counted. Where was Berrick when we needed him? On the bench!

Barnes' command performance against Wales not only made a mockery of his continued omission behind the gallant but makeshift centre Pat McCabe, it also emphasised that he must now be the first Wallaby picked.

Forget the claim that the pressure was off and Wales are not the All Blacks, this was a torrid clash between two of the tournament heavyweights. In that context, Barnes displayed his wonderful all round skill-set and exceptional rugby nous.

When operating at inside-centre in the opening quarter, he made decisions previously left to Quade Cooper. He shared the playmaker role and Cooper blossomed to the point that he was threatening to blow the Welsh defence apart.

After Cooper departed, Barnes became the general at fly-half and steadied his team around the field, keeping Wales under constant pressure while also performing his defensive duties superbly. Was there ever any doubt on that one?

And what a difference a scrum makes. The backs relished the quality front foot ball against a weakened Welsh pack.

French coach Mark Lievremont got it absolutely right when he said, "no scrum, no win." It is an issue Australia needs to revisit. The Wallaby scrum failed when it counted against Ireland and New Zealand.

Australia's best young tight-head scrummager by a country mile is Dan Palmer from the Brumbies. When raising his credentials with David Nucifora I was respectfully dismissed on the grounds of work rate and mobility.

Let us hope there is a change of heart. Palmer is precisely the kind of specialist scrum option the Wallabies need to re-focus on for the end of year UK tour. The coaching staff is paid to get the other parts of his game up to speed.

In hindsight, the Wallaby World Cup campaign was de-railed by Ireland in the pool phase which put them into a premature match-up with the top two ranked teams in world rugby for the knockout stage.

Ironically, Aussie coaches had a big say in those two setbacks against Ireland and New Zealand.

Irish defence coach Les Kiss masterminded the 'hold-up' tackling on Pat McCabe which forced unexpected turnovers and so effectively served to destabilise attacking momentum.

The contribution of All Blacks' skill coach Mick Byrne was also immense in the semi-final. The sensational kick reception technique of man-of-the-match Cory Jane had the unmistakable stamp of the former champion AFL ruckman.

Therein lies an abject lesson for the Wallabies whose collective attempts at fielding the recent spate of high balls remain flawed.

Is it time to bring in an Aussie Rules specialist? Jane's immaculate timing of his jump and an ability to lead with knees tucked under his chest made him bullet proof and untouchable. Easy when you know how.
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/rugby/wo...922/cooper-limps-from-disappointing-campaign/
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So what do you think if Quade led a haka against NZ last weekend would there have been a roit in the stadium as they say it is his "right" as a Maori to lead a counter challenge?

As I'm not a fan of the Brumbies who is our new great white hope (Dan Palmer) in the fronty row?
 
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Tom Lawton (22)
Why is the kneeing in the head incident being bashed to death when there have been incidents in every game (yes just as many cheap ones but not so much in the open) - dare I say the name Ali Williams, or is it that Richie is such the 'love child' of NZ that he is untouchable, and dare I say, unreffable. The indiscretions that he was pulled up for in the Super rugby matches were not reffed in the RWC. Oops think I have already said that before!
QC (Quade Cooper) doing the haka in NZ - there would have been rioting in the streets as well as in the stadium.
 
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Tom Lawton (22)
You think. If someone told me they would be boo QC (Quade Cooper) every time he kicked the ball, ran with it or passed it I would have said nonsense. If I was told he would be booed when he went down injured I would have said nonsense.
I apologise for my rant but I am over the BS.
For a kiwi friend to make a sick joke about QC (Quade Cooper) was about my last straw on Friday. Now I've just had enough.
AND that is all I am saying on the matter.
 
Schadenfreude

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John Solomon (38)
Quade in twitter:
So got a torn ACL and having scans to determine no other injuries. Planing to have a traditional ACL surgery later this week. #proPS3player
 
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Peter Johnson (47)
#proPS3player hahahahaha

At least he's got a sense of humor.

By traditional I assume he means no LARS. Which means a longer recovery but a better end result?
 
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the plastic paddy

John Solomon (38)
The jeering and booing by the NZ crowd at this RWC has not been a highlight. Pleased to hear QC (Quade Cooper)'s injury is not too bad, great talent going forward and good for the game but personally I would like to see him tackle but it doesn't bother me too much because he doesn't play for any team I would ever be after supporting. Best of luck to him nonetheless, with the abuse he has been getting think he handled himself well.
 
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