CAS Rugby 2023

[WLF3]

Hence merge ISA and CAS but we've already been around this merry-go-round once before. Would work perfectly with a 2 tier competition and would create much more captivating games throughout both tiers. An Aloys vs bottom ISA teams would be close every year and Aloys may perhaps be very competitive in this tier which will naturally attract more rugby players. It blows my mind how this has not happened or even been talked out between both associations before. We know GPS will take much longer to consider joining, so why not take a step in the right direction?

Couldn't agree more Jack,

I would think the Waves would be more than happy to improve the competition with the addition of more stronger competition.
BUT what I mean by that is NOT just the 1stXV because most schools can muster a reasonable 1st XV team with their best players in their school BUT it's as much about the younger age groups.

What also needs to be clear is the logistics of all this for the school sports masters ( for just 1 sport), and the fact that such a change may only be suitable to Rugby, so what is the new rugby comp called, and are people happy to depart from the historical comp.

It sounds easy for all us "experts" to call a shot, in reality it is much more complex, and do the schools involved want to be bothered, have the staff resources to be able make it all happen smoothly, and do they want to!

Given todays world and the multitude of other curriculum activities on offer, sad to say , as the Woke ideology grows, think not!

I have just registered my name at school to take part in a compulsory activity, to make sure I have ticked the box as required by my school, that my summer AND winter sport is an Umpire for the emerging and challenging sport of Monopoly!

P.S. Tip always buy Mayfair .

 

[FoleyBealeFolau]

Recent news has surfaced as the linesman that overturned the refs decision from a Cranbrook penalty to a Barker try was the Barker hookers father (Keegan Daly, 2).

In my opinion, this is not acceptable for a match of such high calibre. Surely this says something about the consistency of CAS rugby, this is a first XV game that is being co-reffed by dads and associates of the home school…

You don’t need an earpiece to understand this.

you can actually see in the Hudl the barker 2 is the first person to go to his own dad and ask him to talk to the referee.

 

[BarkerFan420]

Recent news has surfaced as the linesman that overturned the refs decision from a Cranbrook penalty to a Barker try was the Barker hookers father (Keegan Daly, 2).

you can actually see in the Hudl the barker 2 is the first person to go to his own dad and ask him to talk to the referee.

Why are you on the Hudl?!? You must be a student at cranbrook?

 

[Famed_Star]

Recent news has surfaced as the linesman that overturned the refs decision from a Cranbrook penalty to a Barker try was the Barker hookers father (Keegan Daly, 2).

you can actually see in the Hudl the barker 2 is the first person to go to his own dad and ask him to talk to the referee.

Same old Barker.

 

[Halfbackenthusiast]

Recent news has surfaced as the linesman that overturned the refs decision from a Cranbrook penalty to a Barker try was the Barker hookers father (Keegan Daly, 2).

you can actually see in the Hudl the barker 2 is the first person to go to his own dad and ask him to talk to the referee.

Seriously this is the extent to which people will go to. No need to bring up the players name. These are school kids after all

 

[Snort]

Think you are ahead of yourself Snort, Trinity hasn't played Waves yet.
Agree with all you just, and have previously said, but probably won't happen in the near future.

Yeah, I meant Knox not Waverley, although logically the result will probably be much the same.

 

[FoleyBealeFolau]

Why are you on the Hudl?!? You must be a student at cranbrook?

Actually, Mate my son has shown me the video as he was rather upset seeing his school lose with these comedic barker antics. I can recall in 2019 with the microphone issue in which the Barker coach (Dean Hartgraves) was allegedly stood down by Barker. Barker are never shy from controversy, if these are the lows that they must stoop too, to win schoolboy rugby games so be it.

 

[CAS_Rugby]

Actually, Mate my son has shown me the video as he was rather upset seeing his school lose with these comedic barker antics. I can recall in 2019 with the microphone issue in which the Barker coach (Dean Hartgraves) was allegedly stood down by Barker. Barker are never shy from controversy, if these are the lows that they must stoop too, to win schoolboy

The penalty is awarded 5 or 6 seconds before the Barker player scores over the line. So Cranbrook stop playing allowing Barker to score.

Hopefully the right thing can happen and Cranbrook will be awarded the points for the win.

My son just showed me, the video is on a rugby tik tok/snapchat page now getting traction online.

 

[RedOrDead]

Recent news has surfaced as the linesman that overturned the refs decision from a Cranbrook penalty to a Barker try was the Barker hookers father (Keegan Daly, 2).

you can actually see in the Hudl the barker 2 is the first person to go to his own dad and ask him to talk to the referee.

For 1stXV games referees are not assigned by the school...

Not to mention we've already established linesmen can not overturn a decision of this kind (thanks Snort knowledgeable as always)...

This is dead chat. Move on.

 

[RedOrDead]

Actually, Mate my son has shown me the video as he was rather upset seeing his school lose with these comedic barker antics. I can recall in 2019 with the microphone issue in which the Barker coach (Dean Hartgraves) was allegedly stood down by Barker. Barker are never shy from controversy, if these are the lows that they must stoop too, to win schoolboy rugby games so be it.

There was no ear piece...

I genuinely can not believe this rumour is still floating around.

And the coach was not stood down... Because no actual cheating took place.

 

[BarkerFan420]

Actually, Mate my son has shown me the video as he was rather upset seeing his school lose with these comedic barker antics. I can recall in 2019 with the microphone issue in which the Barker coach (Dean Hartgraves) was allegedly stood down by Barker. Barker are never shy from controversy, if these are the lows that they must stoop too, to win schoolboy rugby games so be it.

Dont mate me champion

 

[RedOrDead]

It's a real shame that Waverely have already secured the comp. I personally was very much hoping for a Barker vs Knox rivalry game for the shield at Knox. Nothing better than a last game of the season battle for the shield. Nonetheless, it's Barker vs Knox, so the atmosphere and rivalry will be alive regardless. Very much looking forward to that.

 

[moa999]

Hence merge ISA and CAS but we've already been around this merry-go-round once before. ..GPS will take much longer to consider joining, so why not take a step in the right direction?

I'd say better is playing the CAS comp fully in Term 2 (so less warm up games).
Keeps the history and allows you to better select the CAS team.

Then you reseed and bring in the better performing ISA (and ultimately maybe GPS) teams for Term 3 with some form of Combined Cup on offer. Use results from prior years to determine how many teams from each assn.

GPS obviously had no issue starting their comp much earlier this year and playing two rounds.

It's a real shame that Waverely have already secured the comp.

Never say never. If the Trinity side that beat Cranbrook shows up in the final round they could push Waverley.

 

[schoolboyfooty]

My Predicted CAS 2023 ladder:
1. Knox
2. Barker
3. Cranbrook
4. Waverly
5. Trinity
6. Aloys

hmmmm interesting prediction might I say. I'd say Waverley to come 4th is a little generous, maybe switch them with Trinity.

 

[Jumping_jack]

I'd say better is playing the CAS comp fully in Term 2 (so less warm up games).
Keeps the history and allows you to better select the CAS team.

Then you reseed and bring in the better performing ISA (and ultimately maybe GPS) teams for Term 3 with some form of Combined Cup on offer. Use results from prior years to determine how many teams from each assn.

GPS obviously had no issue starting their comp much earlier this year and playing two rounds.


Never say never. If the Trinity side that beat Cranbrook shows up in the final round they could push Waverley.

The teams play more warm up games than comp games.

Why do we do that? All it does is risk injury to players for no result.

Waverley were really big on not caring about warm up games this year(as shown by results) but also a lot of players played, there were rolling subs for most games, they didn’t seem to care about the results. Because they meant nothing. So why do we bother with them? Who did it help having those games?

 

[Snort]

The teams play more warm up games than comp games.

Why do we do that? All it does is risk injury to players for no result.

Waverley were really big on not caring about warm up games this year(as shown by results) but also a lot of players played, there were rolling subs for most games, they didn’t seem to care about the results. Because they meant nothing. So why do we bother with them? Who did it help having those games?

Well, it's schoolboy Rugby. It gives teams an opportunity to play a variety of opponents, and try out a variety of combinations, before the competition. I don't mind that.

There are two big problems with the home-and-away CAS competition. First, the impact of injuries means that towards the end of the season you got blowout scores. Secondly, it was very rarely close. Occasionally, the title was decided in about Round 8, but there wasn't a single season when the team leading at the halfway point failed to go on to win the whole thing.

 

[Hercules Von Grimmelshaus]

The penalty is awarded 5 or 6 seconds before the Barker player scores over the line. So Cranbrook stop playing allowing Barker to score.

Hopefully the right thing can happen and Cranbrook will be awarded the points for the win.

My son just showed me, the video is on a rugby tik tok/snapchat page now getting traction online.

If you’re going to cite video evidence then post it up for all to see and then don’t embellish what happens to make your point. The ref blew the whistle as the Barker player dives for the try not 5 seconds before.

 

[Hercules Von Grimmelshaus]

Seriously this is the extent to which people will go to. No need to bring up the players name. These are school kids after all

Recent news has surfaced as the linesman that overturned the refs decision from a Cranbrook penalty to a Barker try was the Barker hookers father (Keegan Daly, 2).

you can actually see in the Hudl the barker 2 is the first person to go to his own dad and ask him to talk to the referee.

Seriously again if you going to state things as fact show the evidence. At no point did any Barker player approach the linesman, they all asked the referee to check with him. The referee as he did multiple times throughout the game beckoned the linesman to come to talk to him and asked if the player who scored was the the one that caught it in the lineout which he did. Therefore there was no penalty hence why he changed his call, end of, no cheating occurred

 

[Famed_Star]

If you’re going to cite video evidence then post it up for all to see and then don’t embellish what happens to make your point. The ref blew the whistle as the Barker player dives for the try not 5 seconds before.

Which happened first? The try or the ref blowing the whistle?

 

[FootyCentral!]

Can someone just either post the video or a link to the video please!! That way we can make our own assumptions based off the video. If not, accept the refs decision and move on. Stop complaining about something that so far has zero evidence (on this page) and move on