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Steve Williams (59)
Tom Staniforth has re-signed for 2 years
Brumbies 2017
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Steve Williams (59)
3 more squad signings today:
Ben Hyne (lock/flanker) to an EPS contract
Robert Valetini (backrower) from the Rebels U20's also on an EPS deal
Ryan Longeran (scrum half) to a development contract
Ben Hyne (lock/flanker) to an EPS contract
Robert Valetini (backrower) from the Rebels U20's also on an EPS deal
Ryan Longeran (scrum half) to a development contract
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Steve Williams (59)
Rob? Really? Fuck me, I knew he was highly rated, but he's in his Bloody U18 year! I get that with a metric fuckton of Super Rugby ready locks and backrowers you can afford to take on a project or two, but Jesus.
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Bill Watson (15)
So is Lonergan
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Yeah, he's well liked over at Benetton.
Godwin is off contract, and he'd definitely be appreciated, but I haven't heard anything substantial.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Someone in the Rebels thread claims it's all but a done deal.........
Would definitely be a good signing with To'omua off.........
Godwin looked like being the next Wallaby 12 3 years ago, but he hasn't been able to reach his potential with injuries and getting dicked around at the Force.
mst
Peter Johnson (47)
Meh - he has been patchy at best the last few seasons.
I am watching with interest as Burnie recruits; with some trepidation about the direction. To complement a really good bunch of experienced and proven players we now have half a team on young guns that have talent and ability that need game time and experience and a good coach to develop them; new blood and fresh directions, ideas and skill sets.
But he seem to lose his nerve with the young guns or is to sympathetic with some of the Aussie players "floating" around
and then starts recruiting them even though its well known they are either projects or discards 'EG: Toua.
Godwin is another example just like Toua. He has shown glimpses but nothing of real substance. Yes a new environment might help him but I am unaware of any interest from elsewhere in him which may say something, and its not like other Aussie teams are not looking to bolster their backline attack.
So if you look at the list of candidates at 12 its a log jam. Aside from JJH, we have A. Smith, Ah-Wong, Dargaville, Coleman, Taliauli and even Henry has had a run when required. Now we are adding Godwin?
What about 10's? If Jooste is the goods, you can add Christian to the list of 12's in the roster! But who is another 10?
I hear there is at least one really good 12 in the JiD that's worth a look and he should be before Godwin IMHO.
FFS what about 10's, 13's or 15"?
Seriously, are we buying players for the sake of it or actually targeting by position?
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
What logjam?
Most of the guys you mentioned are outside backs who can cover inside centre (a few of them haven't even played inside centre!)....... and JJH is probably still a couple of years away from pushing for a contract.
The fact is the Brumbies only have 3 specialist inside backs on contract...........
One of them is leaving next year, and another one is quite inexperienced.
Most of the guys you mentioned are outside backs who can cover inside centre (a few of them haven't even played inside centre!)....... and JJH is probably still a couple of years away from pushing for a contract.
The fact is the Brumbies only have 3 specialist inside backs on contract...........
One of them is leaving next year, and another one is quite inexperienced.
mst
Peter Johnson (47)
Actually, the only one that I am unsure that hasn't had a run at inside centre is Taliauli.
Godwin provides no more than any one of those I mentioned.
Ah, and there is the difference when it comes to palyer development. Compare JJH to say Damien McKenzie and you will find that at 19 McKenzie was on a full time contract with the Chief getting regular game time in an already full roster, where as next year, with JJH at the same age as McKenzie was you think he should be held back for later? A couple of years away?
If you look around you will see the likes of Richie Mo'ungais is only 21, and its his first year full time. With a huge 10 caps, he is driving the top team around the park week in week out. Maybe he should have been eased in and given a few more years!
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Of course he provides more than those guys you mentioned!
Firstly, none of the players you mentioned should be considered as inside centre options (only a couple of them as emergency backups)............ Particularly 3 of the players who don't even play in that position!
I'm surprised you didn't include Pocock or Ruan Smith as options...........
Second, Godwin was not long ago a promising 12 who was deemed good enough to get a Wallaby squad call up......... despite his recent form at the Force where he keeps getting moved around, that's already a massive improvement on any of the players you mentioned....... particularly as he actually is an inside centre!
And you can't compare JJH to McKenzie at the same age........... obviously if he's good enough then he's good enough to play, but JJH is not there yet.
The fact is the Brumbies need a new starting 12 for 2017, and they currently don't have one........ Godwin would be an excellent acquisition who could potentially flourish in a better team.
Tomikin
David Codey (61)
Yeah i agree with Slim out of all the players you stated, Colemans probably the only one with a claimfor Inside centre. Godwin hasnt been great, injuries and form have held him back, but his nothing like Toua.. Toua is mistake driven..never beem considered in wallaby class..
I look for a tough runner who can ball play and defend, Godwin fots that.. His no To'omua or CL but he could be.. none of our current backs have that skill.
JJH is good he aint no D McKenzie
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I look for a tough runner who can ball play and defend, Godwin fots that.. His no To'omua or CL but he could be.. none of our current backs have that skill.
JJH is good he aint no D McKenzie
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Billy Sheehan (19)
It would be pretty foolish to shun Godwin if he's interested in a switch, He's obviously talented but out of form.
Tom Staniforth, Blake Enever, Allan Ala'alatoa, Les Makin and James Dargaville would all disagree with you. I can't find many faults in Larkham's coaching, he's a very smart logical guy.
Tom Staniforth, Blake Enever, Allan Ala'alatoa, Les Makin and James Dargaville would all disagree with you. I can't find many faults in Larkham's coaching, he's a very smart logical guy.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
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Billy Sheehan (19)
I wouldn't go that far... the Brumbies' backline has been appalling this year.
With an immense number of injuries
mst
Peter Johnson (47)
Of course he provides more than those guys you mentioned!
Firstly, none of the players you mentioned should be considered as inside centre options (only a couple of them as emergency backups).... Particularly 3 of the players who don't even play in that position!
I'm surprised you didn't include Pocock or Ruan Smith as options.....
Second, Godwin was not long ago a promising 12 who was deemed good enough to get a Wallaby squad call up... despite his recent form at the Force where he keeps getting moved around, that's already a massive improvement on any of the players you mentioned... particularly as he actually is an inside centre!
And you can't compare JJH to McKenzie at the same age..... obviously if he's good enough then he's good enough to play, but JJH is not there yet.
The fact is the Brumbies need a new starting 12 for 2017, and they currently don't have one.... Godwin would be an excellent acquisition who could potentially flourish in a better team.
You do realise that Andrew Smith was recruited specifically as 12 cover right, and Ah-Wong is a 12 usually since swapping from flanker? Dargaville has been the choice fill-in behind Coleman, who is usually first up in 12 as cover. That 4 that are known for being able to play at 12.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Andrew Smith is a 13 that can play 12.......
Ah Wong plays wing/outside centre........... I'm not sure if he's ever played at 12?
Dargaville is a winger who can play in the centres.........
Coleman is a wing/fullback who can also play at inside centre.......
None of them are first or second choice options.
Ah Wong plays wing/outside centre........... I'm not sure if he's ever played at 12?
Dargaville is a winger who can play in the centres.........
Coleman is a wing/fullback who can also play at inside centre.......
None of them are first or second choice options.
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