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Brumbies 2012

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Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Bringing JOC (James O'Connor) to the Brumbies would just cause a further mess we'd had to endure this year with Giteau, To'omua, Lilo and Coleman...

I see Coleman as a future 12 star in competition with JOC (James O'Connor)...

If the Brumbies bring in JOC (James O'Connor) then there's not going to be room for one of either To'omua, Lilo and Coleman...

Plus the Brumbies also have another possible inside centre option in Stubbs they've yet to use...
 
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Bringing JOC (James O'Connor) to the Brumbies would just cause a further mess we'd had to endure this year with Giteau, To'omua, Lilo and Coleman...

I see Coleman as a future 12 star in competition with JOC (James O'Connor)...

If the Brumbies bring in JOC (James O'Connor) then there's not going to be room for one of either To'omua, Lilo and Coleman...

Plus the Brumbies also have another possible inside centre option in Stubbs they've yet to use...

mate i agree 100%, like the old saying goes "too many cheifs spoil the broth", and that's exactly what i feel is happening at the Brumbies at the moment.

They seem to be trying to squeeze to many play-makers into the same team, it would seem to be a by-product of questionable recruiting and retention criteria over the past few years. Currently the Brumbies could do well with the likes of one of there former players such as Fairbanks, Mortlock or Fainga'a, someone to straighten the attack and put some sting in the defence.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I see To'omua as our 10 with Coleman/Stubbs as the inside centre options and Lilo covering fullback/inside centre...

Coleman and Stubbs are both excellent great ball running centres with Coleman a bit more of a 2nd 5/8 and Stubbs a crash ball inside centre (and outside centre)...

The Brumbies already have congestion in the TH prop department with Palmer, Ma'afu, Owen and now Alexander re-signing on the promise he'll be considered as a TH...

I wonder who'll break the bad news to Alexander? Because there's no way he can't play LH next year...

Aside from hanging onto Kimlin, the Brumbies should only be targeting other possible locks, a LH prop, a hooker, another scrumhalf and possibly a winger...
 

Bowside

Peter Johnson (47)
This brumbies season has been really disappointing. So much talent in the stable, just a prolonged period of poor coaching and administration has done them over.

They need to appoint a coach quicksmart so they can get on with recruiting for next season. With the lack of outside backs at the brumbies being what it is, I can't see Queensland hanging onto all of Toua, Shipperly, Sitauti and Morahan. Interesting to see how Dennan Kemp and John Grant go's in the 7's as they could possibly end up down south. I suggested poaching another mungo in the other thread and got shot down, so I wont bother.

Second Row stocks are looking thin everywhere. I'd like to see Phoenix Battye back playing for the team he grew up supporting is he on a 1 or 2 year contract?. There is talk Chis could be going to the rebels which I dont think would be such a bad thing, as no coach has been really bean able to get him to play to his potential, Mcqueen might have a bit more luck.
 

Brumby Jack

Steve Williams (59)
Huia Edmonds is having problems regarding his contract with Saracens and may stay with the Brumbies for 2012. There has been a mention of the Rebels getting involved also.

The contract issue is apparently over shoulder surgery that Edmonds needs. He wants to push for a World Cup berth and for that to happen he will have to delay this necessary surgery until after the World Cup, but that would mean missing a fair chunk of next years SupeRugby season. Saracens want it done straight after the SupeRugby season and that will rule him out of RWC contention.
 

mudskipper

Colin Windon (37)
Brumbies will need to sign a fullback/wing one AKA Luke Morahan looks the goods... brumbies will need a second hooker (could be Hegarty) an alternative No.8 and locks/No.6. All for the starting 22. And would someone buy Cliton Sills a few meals and put him in the gym so he can play in the 22 next year. Morahan and Sillys could be a good outside back combo with Speights. Run McCabe at 13.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Brumbies will need to sign a fullback/wing one AKA Luke Morahan looks the goods... brumbies will need a second hooker (could be Hegarty) an alternative No.8 and locks/No.6. All for the starting 22. And would someone buy Cliton Sills a few meals and put him in the gym so he can play in the 22 next year. Morahan and Sillys could be a good outside back combo with Speights. Run McCabe at 13.

They've got two no. 8s for next year with Vaea, and Fotu Auelua coming down from Toulon who will cover 6/8...

What they're going to need is a good TH lock... Kimlin has been their tallest lock since Adam Wallace-Harrison (unless you count Harrison's brief appearance last year, which I don't)...

Bringing Battye home would be a nice touch... especially as he's only on a one year deal with the Force and getting no game time...

Definitely want to see McCabe brought into 13... he's wasted on the wing...
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Worst kept secret about to become official...

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...-coach-at-cape-town-hotel-20110426-1dv6j.html

Rea schedules his departure while Brumbies meet new coach at Cape Town hotel

Chris Dutton
April 27, 2011

CAPE TOWN: ACT Brumbies mentor Tony Rea will leave Canberra at the end of the Super Rugby season to chase another head coaching opportunity, and the franchise will announce today that he will be replaced by South African Jake White for the next four years.

White guided South Africa to a World Cup victory in 2007 and is keen to resurrect the Brumbies as Australia's premier Super Rugby club.

Rea admitted it was disappointing he had been overlooked to be a permanent head coach after taking over from Andy Friend in February.

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Speaking from Cape Town, Rea confirmed White's appointment would result in his leaving the capital in the coming months. He will still be in charge of the Brumbies for the final nine weeks of the season.

He insisted he was not bitter and would not duck making any hard calls in his final two months. ''I am disappointed, but I am fine with the decision. It doesn't affect my confidence,'' Rea said. ''I believe strongly in what I'm doing and how I'm going and as long as I feel like that, I'm cool with the decision.

''I'm not going to make any soft decisions for this group. I'm not going to change my behaviour at all. The players know that. Everything else that will happen next year is irrelevant for now.''

The Brumbies will leave Cape Town today to finalise preparations for their clash with the Cheetahs in Bloemfontein. Their stopover in Cape Town allowed White to meet most of the playing group at the team's hotel yesterday.

He is also likely to travel to Bloemfontein and Durban to watch the Brumbies' two games in South Africa.

White's coaching credentials made him too hard to ignore for the Brumbies board and selection panel. He guided the South African under-21s side to a junior World Cup triumph in 2002 before taking over the Springboks two years later.

He helped them win the Tri Nations in 2004 before succeeding at the 2007 World Cup. Rea took over the Brumbies' top job when Friend was sacked after just two games this season.

In his six Super Rugby matches in charge, the team has only been able to record one victory. When asked if his five losses made it hard for the selection panel to choose him over White, Rea said: ''You'd have to ask them that. You would think people would be stronger than that and have their eyes open to see the group is moving forward.

''We don't have results, but it has 100 per cent made me more confident … I'm comfortable with what we're doing.''

The Brumbies playing group was informed earlier this week of the decision to replace Rea with White next year.

Rea came to Canberra as Friend's specialist defensive coach to start the 2009 season. And having been a head coach in the English Super League and now Super Rugby, Rea said he would need to leave Canberra to pursue his ambition of taking charge of another professional team.

But he doesn't want to say goodbye to Canberra on a sour note. He is determined to turn the Brumbies' season around before leaving and is confident the team can start with a victory against the Cheetahs.

''We haven't had the results this season, but having this time has confirmed to myself that I'm sweet in the coaching role and with the jobs that come with it,'' Rea said.

''There's a lot to play for - I'm not the only one leaving. There are a fair few blokes [like Matt Giteau, Adam Ashley-Cooper and Mitchell Chapman] leaving so it's our last little campaign together. Because of the year we've had, I really admire how strong the guys have been.''


Four years huh?

I would've thought 2 years and then renew based on his success...

But I guess the young guys coming up the ranks will be senior players by then and they can always just kick him out themselves...
 

Newb

Trevor Allan (34)
think white will keep on the local assistants or give them the boot for his own? he seems too stodgy for the likes of larkham and harrison. maybe he'll bring back his boy eddie.
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Worst kept secret about to become official...

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...-coach-at-cape-town-hotel-20110426-1dv6j.html

This could be a real positive. Four years from an outsider should really help the Brumbies franchise evolve into a new era. I just hope the powers to be in Brumby land give him the support and latitude he requires to get the job done.




Four years huh?



I would've thought 2 years and then renew based on his success...

But I guess the young guys coming up the ranks will be senior players by then and they can always just kick him out themselves...

This could be a real positive. Four years from an outsider should really help the Brumbies franchise evolve into a new era. I just hope the powers to be in Brumby land give him the support and latitude he requires to get the job done.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
think white will keep on the local assistants or give them the boot for his own? he seems too stodgy for the likes of larkham and harrison. maybe he'll bring back his boy eddie.

Unfortunately Larkham and Harrison have already been confirmed for next year...

Hopefully this will lead to two results:

a) They become better coaches under White

b) If they don't perform White will get rid of them (or they'll quit due to being unable to deal with White) and he'll install his own assistants
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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think white will keep on the local assistants or give them the boot for his own? he seems too stodgy for the likes of larkham and harrison. maybe he'll bring back his boy eddie.

His role has to include mentoring talented Australian assistant coaches, the question do Larkham and Harrison have the ability to be good coaches or does he go more experienced Aus young coaches.
 

Jets

Paul McLean (56)
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I would expect this would have quite a cultural impact in Brumbyland. White seems to me to be quite a controlling coach who wouldn't give the players the powers they have had in the past.

I hope that he isn't allowed to have foreign assistants and develops some good Australian coaches. One of the big issues is the lack of pathways for Australian coaches.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
I think this is a good appointment from a number of points of view:

1, He is very well credentialled. Nobody can argue with his record as Bok coach.
2, His is a fairly no nonsense manner and it will be good for the players to have someone who can lay down that marker. He's very adept at making successes of teams in highly charged political situations. What could be worse than having to deal with the SARU?
3, The experience he has will be good for the guys assisting him. As said above, Larkham. Harrison and co. will either absorb what he has to say or rebel and leave. Either would be an acceptable outcome from the Brumbies point of view.
 

AngrySeahorse

Peter Sullivan (51)
Just saw the news on Fox sports that White is coming over to the Brumbies. Like others have said already this is great news for the Brumbies. Screw leadership groups and democracy, they need a dictator, White is the man.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
I would highly recommend to Brumbies fans to read Jake White's book that was published after the RWC win; "In Black and White"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-White-Jake-Story/dp/1770220046
(MODS delete this link it it's not allowed)

It will give you insight into him as a person, character, history, coaching philosophies etc. and of course all the crap he dealt with.

For those who don't know, Jake was the Boks technical analyst under Nick Mallet. He also ran a TV program with Joel Stransky for some time in SA in the early 2000's. Still the best rugby TV program I have ever watched. The whole thing was like "Kafe's chalkboard." It was brilliant.

Very focused bloke. I am sure he will be open to working with the incumbent assistants but he will be a tough schoolmaster (he is a trained teacher by the way). One of SA's most successful schools coaches. He understands grass roots having been a development manager early in his career.

I'm excited for the Brumbies. This could be great and I hope it is.
 
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