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Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
This is partly why Murdoch was so against the NBN - it damages Foxtel.

That's the biggest problem currently. Eschewing big TV deals or greatly reducing TV deals to be able to sell the content directly is only really viable once it becomes possible to sell a similar service.

Live streamed content is so far off being capable of being streamed at a sufficient quality for the bulk of Australians it really isn't a viable replacement yet. It's a real shame that we live in a country full of luddites.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
I am no expert, but we live in SE Queensland, and we can watch stuff on our Samsung TV streamed from the Internet, the quality is fine for us.


I would guess that if it is okay where we live, it would be okay for a pretty handy majority of the total population?

Cost is another issue, of course.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I am no expert, but we live in SE Queensland, and we can watch stuff on our Samsung TV streamed from the Internet, the quality is fine for us.


I would guess that if it is okay where we live, it would be okay for a pretty handy majority of the total population?

Cost is another issue, of course.

Really?

Any sporting games I've ever streamed from the internet are fine on a computer screen in a small Youtube window. They become too grainy on fullscreen on the computer and the resolution is nowhere near the quality to put on a 42 inch TV (which is quite old so not even particularly high resolution).

Compare that to HD Foxtel and it is chalk and cheese.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
I have not done a lot of streaming, we have watched some stuff from ABC iView, though.


YouTube and other sources would not be as good, of course.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I agree that iView is fine. It can still run into problems needing to buffer when the internet connection is a little patchy which unfortuantely is a reality for me (even though I live within 5km of the Sydney CBD).

Live streams of sport are the biggest problem mostly because of the limit in upload speeds. There is just nowhere near the bandwidth to be able to make a game available in HD as it happens even if people have somewhere near the bandwidth to be able to stream it.
 

Chris McCracken

Jim Clark (26)
I am no expert, but we live in SE Queensland, and we can watch stuff on our Samsung TV streamed from the Internet, the quality is fine for us.


I would guess that if it is okay where we live, it would be okay for a pretty handy majority of the total population?

Cost is another issue, of course.

Cable and ADSL2+ (in many cases) can manage varying levels of HD sport. It works well. Most people don't have either, though and ADSL2+ varies its speed with distance from the exchange.

The real issue will happen when there is high takeup, the backhaul services will suffer, too.
 

Chris McCracken

Jim Clark (26)
Cable is extremely limited in its available locations. ADSL2+ is a lot more common and available to a very large percentage of the population.
 
T

TOCC

Guest
I stream Foxtel to my tv, whilst not HD level it is a reasonable SD quality....


Australian internet won't have the bandwidth for HD for a very long time, so whilst streaming is improving so is our appetite for HD television, it's going to take a long time for steaming to be able to handle HD, but streaming will be a viable alternative for many in the mean time.
 

Jagman

Trevor Allan (34)
I have subscribed to Foxtel play in the past. Not sure if I'll do it again this year because I work most Friday nights and you can't record the games. I see there is the ability to go back 30 minutes now but that's not enough. The quality on the laptop is not that good and does not transfer well to tv by HDMI cable but play it through the App on my PS3 and it's like watching HD TV 90%of the time.


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wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
This whole area is, I believe, one of Pulver's strengths, based on the little I know of his background.


We really have to be smarter than the average bear - that's our only realistic area of possible advantage.
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
I understand that digital rights are sold by SANZAR as part of the whole right package, so not much the ARU can do in that regard I think.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
I understand that digital rights are sold by SANZAR as part of the whole right package, so not much the ARU can do in that regard I think.

Not this round of rights but they should certainly be investigating the cost, customer base, financial modelling etc. in the period between know and the next run of rights. If the customer base is big enough taking control of its own broadcasting could be a big win for the competition.
 

Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
25,000 supporters (basically the NRC TV audience) paying $50/month would get the ARU $15m, about half what the current broadcast deal is worth each year.

All sorts of issues with those numbers, but definitely worth investigating.....
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
25,000 supporters (basically the NRC TV audience) paying $50/month would get the ARU $15m, about half what the current broadcast deal is worth each year.

All sorts of issues with those numbers, but definitely worth investigating...


It would require a combined effort on behalf of all the Unions involved in Super Rugby as a means of providing enough content create the necessary value to realistically ask those sort of prices.

But it could be possible. Certainly worth it if you can gain access to;

Super Rugby
NRC, ITM Cup and Currie Cup
Vodacom Cup, Vodacom Cup and Shute Shield/Brisbane Comp (both)
Varsity Cup, First XV Rugby (NZ) and say a Schoolboys Cup here.
Schoolboy Rep games, U20s Rep games.
Some sort of 7s Circuit. NZ 7s Championship.
Top League, Pacific Nations Cup, Campenato de Argentino de Rugby, the Argentine Club Championship.

Highlight and variety shows, competitions I'm not even considering. There's potential for thousands of hours of Rugby entertainment.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
$100 for the Super Rugby season would seem like about the most you could charge.

It's not like SANZAR could have the rights to sell much apart from Super Rugby that isn't on FTA already.
 
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